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XXXManager 03-25-2003 08:50 AM

This is W A R !!!
 
To all the pussies out there (no offense), thinking the war is already too long and claimed too many lives, and to all other people out there as well... Here is my 2 cents for you about what is war and what I predict is going to happen next in Iraq.

1. Expect 10 casualties a day in average on the allied forces side. Expect 100-150 casualties a day on the Iraqi side (depends what you count) in average (not including civilians). I hope that there will be less of this on each side - but hope is just that... hope. The high number of allied casualties per day is a result of mainly points #5 - #7
2. Expect a 6 months war. The 2-3 first months will be aimed at crushing the Iraqi central command. The rest 3-4 will be to suppress opposition and resistance.
that two factors result in an estimated 1800 allied forces dead and about 18,000-27,000
3. The fighting will continue through guerilla fighting even after the official end of the war, but that is irrelevant part of the process. That resistance will die over time (I predict additional 6 months after the war end) and will disperse itself due to lack of interest of te opposing forces. There will be even longer term opposition but it will be marginal and will be against the new Iraqi leadership rather than against allied forces which will over time leave Iraq.
4. Expect zero mercy to allied forces POWs. To all the pussies out there ? this is Iraqis not Englishmen. Executions and torture there is considered fun. If you can?t digest it ? go back to listening to Britney Spears. Don?t expect to see too many of the POWs alive again. Some will, but I don?t pity the lives they will have after the war.

When Allied forces arrive Bagdad, which is their main target since it will be the center of war and is the stronghold of the Iraqi central command they will face the following?

5. on every corner there will be booby-traps and mines. The allied forces will be shot at or bombed in every second corner. Bagdad is very similar in structure to a refugee camp ? narrow streets. Remember Israel ? Jenin Palestinian tactics? You will see a replay of that in Iraq.
6. The desire of the allied forces to resolve the war ?efficiently? by bombing the hell out of Bagdad to avoid casualties will cost them highly in lives of soldiers. That will not stop the Iraqis from complaining of ?massacre? that the allied forces commit (see point #7)
7. Iraqi soldiers will adopt the following two tactics. The first is false surrenders with explosive-belts or guns. The second ? suicide bombers charging allied forces. Reminds you of the Palestinian tactics? Not surprisingly so. You thought the Iraqi regime will respect codes of war? Your awakened by now? The effect of these two issues will make it harder for the allied forces to accept surrendering forces. Remember the blind-folded, tied-up captives by Israeli-defense-force? You will see that too in Iraq.
8. The Iraqis will use the ever more effective ?massacre? and ?humanitarian disaster? tool for PR to win points in the weak western world (as if ?humanitarian disaster? is something the Iraqi leadership gives a damn about anyway). I predict you will see condemnation propositions on the UN against what is happening in Iraq (like the UN did not approve sanctions which were humanitarianly bad enough ? plain hypocrisy). Remember Israel?Jenin fabricated claims? You will see a replay of that in Iraq. You will see pictures of so called humanitarian disaster and innocent casualties (which no doubt will happen) blown out of proportion by the media into a prime-time scale ? so it will be interesting enough to watch (sick but true).
9. In Bagdad ? the allied forces will adopt the following combat method (to some extent): Wall to wall progress (IDF invention) ? where they will advance through people?s houses by tearing down internal walls instead of going through the streets. Not nice - but life saving.
10. The war will finally be won by the allied forces (surprise, surprise). Some will say it?s not a victory. Some will say the victory is pointless. Some will say the victory was too costly. Then again ? most of those you will hear saying that are western people living and capable of speaking their mind just because their army was ?vicious? enough to protect them thus-far. (Its fun to bash the ones that see/have no choice but protecting you anyway)

To all those that thought that inspections or diplomacy are useful tools with the Iraqi regime? I hope you are awakened by now.
To all those who thought that sanctions will impose hardship on the Iraqis and will cause their leadership to stop arming and buy food with the oil money? I hope you are awakened by now. The Iraqi leadership as you can see (if you care looking) couldn?t care less about the innocent poor Iraqi (especially the Shias).
To all those who thought innocent Iraqis will not die? I hope you are awakened. It?s sad but it?s inevitable. The only effective way to avoid killing innocent Iraqis (directly) is not go to war. Then again ? many will die by the hands of Saddam and out of poverty and hunger even without war.

These are all my predictions. Not necessarily my hopes or desired. I hope the war will take 6 days with no more casualties, concluded by Saddam surrendering, turning his country into a proud and enlightened democracy, opening super-chains of K-marts and McDonalds (I hate McDonald) supplying his people with workplaces and cheap (junk) food and finally leap towards the 21nd century with great medical and scientific research and leading the world into aerospace research and conquering of the galaxy.
I am not a Britney Spears fan though ? so I know its not going to happen.

This is WAR, not a video game! You don?t press ?Replay? if you die!
If it?s too tough for you to digest ? grow up, or shut down the TV.
The alternative of leaving in a world full of dangers and fears is not a good alternative. It may feel better in the very short term though but so does Heroin or suffocation during sex.

:2 cents:

[Labret] 03-25-2003 08:51 AM

If there was a gif of my hand making mouth flapping motions, I would post it right now.

playa 03-25-2003 08:53 AM

are you publishing your comments to a newspaper?

but i don't think it'll last 6 months

2 more weeks at the most before they give up

chupacabra 03-25-2003 08:54 AM

Quote:

I am not a Britney Spears fan though ? so I know its not going to happen.
http://twash.com/temp/curly.gif http://twash.com/temp/moe.gif http://twash.com/temp/cry.gif

Va2k 03-25-2003 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
If there was a gif of my hand making mouth flapping motions, I would post it right now.

:1orglaugh

adamneve 03-25-2003 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXManager
Remember Israel ? Jenin Palestinian tactics? You will see a replay of that in Iraq.
Jenin?

the problem is they don't know Baghdad that good:warning

flashfreak 03-25-2003 09:03 AM

do you have a short version ?

XXXManager 03-25-2003 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adamneve
Jenin?
the problem is they don't know Baghdad that good:warning

*hint* Sattelite pics. maps. etc..
Anyway that doesn't matter. It even raises the chance for such a replay.

XXXManager 03-25-2003 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
do you have a short version ?
Yep.
War - not video game
:thumbsup

flashfreak 03-25-2003 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXManager

Yep.

Many dead
Many more
War - long
War - not a trip or hiking through the desert
War - not video game
War Sucks - War bad
:thumbsup

ok, you must be right then...

XXXManager 03-25-2003 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
are you publishing your comments to a newspaper?
but i don't think it'll last 6 months
2 more weeks at the most before they give up

As I said - only my prediction. I may be wrong, but then again - We will soon see if you are right :)
As I said...
Expect a 6 months war. The 2-3 first months will be aimed at crushing the Iraqi central command. The rest 3-4 will be to suppress opposition and resistance.

If you think that there will not be fighting after the so called surrender (which I doubt will be in 2 weeks) you are in for a surprise. Just my opinion.

Darin 03-25-2003 09:14 AM

Hey Ron, quit looking out your window man! Just watch TV, you get the real scoop on tv!!!!

CDSmith 03-25-2003 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXManager
War Sucks - War bad
War Sucks -- War necessary when goal is worthy enough
Saddam -- bad man, veddy veddy bad man

Va2k 03-25-2003 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
If there was a gif of my hand making mouth flapping motions, I would post it right now.
http://www.virginiaamateurs.net/haha.gif

playa 03-25-2003 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXManager

If you think that there will not be fighting after the so called surrender (which I doubt will be in 2 weeks) you are in for a surprise. Just my opinion.


well this might be true,,
but i think once the people know for sure that the Saddams regime is going down then the rest of them will surrendar

Mark 03-25-2003 09:18 AM

:GFYBand :drinkup

capribex 03-25-2003 09:44 AM

here are my predictions:

1. the americans will learn FAST (4-6 weeks) that flying their choppers 2 meters above the heads of thousands of gun holders is wrong, and you will see far less chopper crashes

2. the american troops in the field (not the official tactic - the local bahaviour in the field) will learn FAST that its better to have a bad lawyer than a great priest, i.e. they will fend for their personal lives more than for the constitution, and the direct result of that will be less american soldiers dead or captive (what the media like to call "trigger happy")

3. street fights in baghdad - the americans will try to send in as many kurds as possible (who are joining from the north) and will hire them as "guides" (basically people who walk in the first line) so they will limit their casualties this way

4. hammas, islamic jihad, hizbulah etc. as well as individual muslims throughout the western world will start attacking in a week or two from now. suicide bombs, plain bombs, snipers in the streets etc. - to disrupt normal life in the west

5. the battle over baghdad will be very very bloody in deed.

6. don't be impressed by the number of iraqi deaths. arabs/muslims don't count victories or losses by comparing number of deaths. the only possible "loss" in their minds is the collapse of the regime.

7. therefore, america will win. saddam will lose. iraq will win. moreorless in that order.

8. the world will be very unstable and unfriendly in the next 2-3 years.

9. after this war, two things will happen simultaneously: the israelis and the palestinians will be "forced" to make peace; the coalition forces will threat iran and syria (and maybe lebanon and some elements in palestine) to immediately "reform" and remove WMD.

10. if they won't (and they won't) - there will be some more wars

11. the world is in a deep deep shit for the next 4 years or so.

12. messiah will appear and reveal to us that all this time we were wrong and the french were right

13. the CIA will reveal that it wasn't really the messiah. it was Jacque Chirac dressed as the messiah.

14. the real messiah will have his day of vengence against the french.

CDSmith 03-25-2003 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by capribex
14. the real messiah will have his day of vengence against the french.
ha ha........ yes.

Mark 03-25-2003 09:49 AM

:GFYBand :drinkup

XXXManager 03-27-2003 04:47 PM

ok. so far...
Quote:

8. The Iraqis will use the ever more effective ?massacre? and ?humanitarian disaster? tool for PR to win points in the weak western world (as if ?humanitarian disaster? is something the Iraqi leadership gives a damn about anyway)....Remember Israel?Jenin fabricated claims? You will see a replay of that in Iraq. You will see pictures of so called humanitarian disaster and innocent casualties...
Point #8 - Checked :thumbsup (so called school bomb massacre where it is probably an Iraqi bomb in the first place)

More to come (rumors of suicide bombers and soldiers pretending to be regular civilians with no uniforms) - point #7.. waiting for more details for final confirmation

Snapper 03-27-2003 04:49 PM

Are the cliff notes available for this post? :helpme

Fletch XXX 03-27-2003 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
If there was a gif of my hand making mouth flapping motions, I would post it right now.
<img src=http://www.overmindesign.com/images/yapyap.gif border="1">

<font size="1">for next time.</font>

Snapper 03-27-2003 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


<img src=http://www.overmindesign.com/images/yapyap.gif border="1">

<font size="1">for next time.</font>

Very nice Fletch, May I borrow that sometime?

Fletch XXX 03-27-2003 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper


Very nice Fletch, May I borrow that sometime?

Only on this board. =)

:glugglug

Snapper 03-27-2003 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Only on this board. =)

:glugglug

Why? are there any other boards? <sound of ass kissing>

of course, thanks.

Fletch XXX 03-27-2003 05:12 PM

labret just paypalled me 20 bucks for it.

you gotta ask him next time if you want to use it.

im going get tacos and beer.

:glugglug

Darin 03-27-2003 06:00 PM

Ron want me to fedex you some WMD?

XXXManager 03-27-2003 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darin
Ron want me to fedex you some WMD?
Bro
FletchXXX is flapping his hand at me :(
send him one of that white powder envelopes you sent the congressmen a year ago :thumbsup :Graucho

eroswebmaster 03-27-2003 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
labret just paypalled me 20 bucks for it.

you gotta ask him next time if you want to use it.

im going get tacos and beer.

:glugglug


Fuck that...I'm using it and posting it to all the newsgroups dedicated to flapping hands.

alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.flappinghands
alt.fan.flappinghands
alt.binaries.pictures.flappinghands

so many...can't name them all.

Darin 03-27-2003 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXManager

Bro
FletchXXX is flapping his hand at me :(
send him one of that white powder envelopes you sent the congressmen a year ago :thumbsup :Graucho

Fuck no, I got no beef with fletch. Does a flapping hand hurt you or something?

besides, I saw fletches choker knive pictures. I aint dumb.

XXXManager 03-27-2003 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darin
Fuck no, I got no beef with fletch. Does a flapping hand hurt you or something?
besides, I saw fletches choker knive pictures. I aint dumb.

Oh shit. True. Shit, I forgot.
Fletch - the flapping hand is beautiful. i like it. I like you. I just paypal'd you my car. Good Fletch :winkwink:

P.S.
Darin - talk to Fedex. Tell them to reroute the package to Labret :glugglug

PaulSweet 03-27-2003 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
labret just paypalled me 20 bucks for it.

you gotta ask him next time if you want to use it.

im going get tacos and beer.

:glugglug

Nice from now on that should be referred to as the [labret] :thumbsup

[Labret] 03-28-2003 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


<img src=http://www.overmindesign.com/images/yapyap.gif border="1">

<font size="1">for next time.</font>

Awsome. Perfect.


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