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Gimmy 03-24-2003 10:18 AM

U.S. troops 50 miles from Baghdad
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...attlefield_101

KRL 03-24-2003 10:24 AM

This battle plan is fucked up. They are bypassing securing major cities first and going straight to Baghdad. What the fuck?

Candyman69 03-24-2003 10:26 AM

in a report they are now worrying bum rushing mite have not been a good idea, they left their flank open and the British, Aussie troops are taking heavy fire from the southern cities

KRL 03-24-2003 10:35 AM

I don't think Tommy Franks has a handle on things. Where's Schwerzkopf? :1orglaugh

Madball 03-24-2003 10:37 AM

Could this wasted guy win a war? I think the last time we saw him was on bumfights.com

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,252385,00.jpg

mika 03-24-2003 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Madball
Could this wasted guy win a war? I think the last time we saw him was on bumfights.com

Hehe too much :drinkup :drinkup

Pornwolf 03-24-2003 10:41 AM

I think if Gomer Pyle had become a high ranking officer he would look just like that.

ServerGenius 03-24-2003 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Madball
Could this wasted guy win a war? I think the last time we saw him was on bumfights.com

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,252385,00.jpg

He´s hired only to make G.W. look smart. :1orglaugh

DynaMite

Thrawn$ 03-24-2003 10:47 AM

it's stupid to not control all the cities before going to bagdad!
you leaves enemies behind :Hollering

woodman 03-24-2003 10:51 AM

fucking back-seat generals. Hopefully command is watching gfy for advice.

General Franks' awards include the Defense Distinguished Service Medal; Distinguished Service Medal (two awards); Legion of Merit (four awards); Bronze Star Medal with "V" (three awards); Purple Heart (three awards); Air Medal with "V"; Army Commendation Medal with "V"; and a number of U.S. and foreign service awards.

theking 03-24-2003 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
This battle plan is fucked up. They are bypassing securing major cities first and going straight to Baghdad. What the fuck?
Wrong. The plan is sound. At this point in time they do not have any interest in getting bogged down in fighting in cities of no import. Their goal is to cut off the head of the snake (Baghdad).

What resistance that is being put up by Iraqi forces is light resistance and was to be expected. If sand storms do not slow the progress of the main advancing forces, we will have control of the country in a few more days. Do not confuse control with secure. The country of Iraq may not be secure for years to come, if ever.

The strategy being used is reminiscent of General MacArthur's strategy during the Pacific campaign in the Second World War. By pass Japanese strongholds and let them wither on the vine and take them out later. By the way General MacArthur lost fewer troops than any General during the Second World War.

DarkJedi 03-24-2003 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Candyman69
they left their flank open and the British, Aussie troops are taking heavy fire from the southern cities
that was the idea :1orglaugh

rooster 03-24-2003 10:58 AM

i also agree its a good plan. The quicker they get to baghdad the better. Most of these 'pockets of resistance' are just like 20 guys with some ak47s and a grenade launcher.

Sly_RJ 03-24-2003 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Gimmy
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...attlefield_101
Interesting comment.
Quote:

People are evacuating, but not because of the bombing. They are afraid Saddam will respond with chemical weapons," said Ahmad Qafoor, a schoolteacher.

theking 03-24-2003 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by woodman
fucking back-seat generals. Hopefully command is watching gfy for advice.

General Franks' awards include the Defense Distinguished Service Medal; Distinguished Service Medal (two awards); Legion of Merit (four awards); Bronze Star Medal with "V" (three awards); Purple Heart (three awards); Air Medal with "V"; Army Commendation Medal with "V"; and a number of U.S. and foreign service awards.

If command is watching it is for the same reason that I use GFY and that is to amuse myself with all of the ignorant people that post here.

PersianKitty 03-24-2003 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
I don't think Tommy Franks has a handle on things. Where's Schwerzkopf? :1orglaugh
I actually heard Schwarzkopf on either Fox News or MSNBC within the last couple of days.

theking 03-24-2003 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty


I actually heard Schwarzkopf on either Fox News or MSNBC within the last couple of days.

General Franks being in the very same command position that he was in, I am sure he is watching with great interest.

stocktrader23 03-24-2003 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Wrong. The plan is sound. At this point in time they do not have any interest in getting bogged down in fighting in cities of no import. Their goal is to cut off the head of the snake (Baghdad).

What resistance that is being put up by Iraqi forces is light resistance and was to be expected. If sand storms do not slow the progress of the main advancing forces, we will have control of the country in a few more days. Do not confuse control with secure. The country of Iraq may not be secure for years to come, if ever.

The strategy being used is reminiscent of General MacArthur's strategy during the Pacific campaign in the Second World War. By pass Japanese strongholds and let them wither on the vine and take them out later. By the way General MacArthur lost fewer troops than any General during the Second World War.

Everybody here knows you are pro-war, but can you for once look at the facts and come up with your own opinion about anything? They have been saying that leaving enemies behind is something to worry about. There are many troops that hadn't even started towards Baghdad from Kuwait as of last night. Their path to Baghdad will see resistance instead of a clean trip. This will not be good if we get into a real fight in Baghdad. They also pointed out that the trucks to refuel our vehicles and bring supplies to the front of the war will be slowed due to this. It's also been pointed out that some of our vehicles could run completely out of fuel if there were any resistance slowing the convoy from getting to Baghdad in a hurry. I've seen it several times already.

The more I read your posts the more I think you don't even read the articles or watch TV. This may very well be no problem but it has the potential to be a huge fuck up.

theking 03-24-2003 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23


Everybody here knows you are pro-war, but can you for once look at the facts and come up with your own opinion about anything? They have been saying that leaving enemies behind is something to worry about. There are many troops that hadn't even started towards Baghdad from Kuwait as of last night. Their path to Baghdad will see resistance instead of a clean trip. This will not be good if we get into a real fight in Baghdad. They also pointed out that the trucks to refuel our vehicles and bring supplies to the front of the war will be slowed due to this. It's also been pointed out that some of our vehicles could run completely out of fuel if there were any resistance slowing the convoy from getting to Baghdad in a hurry. I've seen it several times already.

The more I read your posts the more I think you don't even read the articles or watch TV. This may very well be no problem but it has the potential to be a huge fuck up.

Assuming that the "they" you are referring to is the media and their "experts", I am not interested in what they have to say in regard to the strategy being used. In addition I have been a student of war and I completely understand the strategy of this campaign. There is nothing really new about the strategy (pretty much classic) and I am also aware that there are risks involved in any military plan/action. This campaign is going as planned and is slightly ahead of schedule and there is not any reason for alarm at this point in time. So far we have been being reasonable with the amount of force we have applied. If any serious problems develop, our forces can increase the use of force and Iraqi forces do not have the ability to do this, period. All is going well.

stocktrader23 03-24-2003 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Assuming that the "they" you are referring to is the media and their "experts", I am not interested in what they have to say in regard to the strategy being used. In addition I have been a student of war and I completely understand the strategy of this campaign. There is nothing really new about the strategy (pretty much classic) and I am also aware that there are risks involved in any military plan/action. This campaign is going as planned and is slightly ahead of schedule and there is not any reason for alarm at this point in time. So far we have been being reasonable with the amount of force we have applied. If any serious problems develop, our forces can increase the use of force and Iraqi forces do not have the ability to do this, period. All is going well.


................Dusk was falling. There were Bradleys everywhere, and they had discovered a group of Iraqis coming toward them with small arms. They engaged. There wasn?t any return fire against the massive fire from the tanks. One American soldier was yelling, ?Kill the motherf?kers!? This is not a stroll into Baghdad. All along this road they?ve been encountering similar attacks by militia loyal to Saddam who are taking it upon themselves to fight. Bands of Iraqis are resisting, and there are casualties. My car is shrapnel and I?m basically embedded now. I don?t have much chance of going independent again and, to be honest, I don?t know if I want to..........

Full Story: http://www.msnbc.com/news/889555.asp

theking 03-24-2003 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23



................Dusk was falling. There were Bradleys everywhere, and they had discovered a group of Iraqis coming toward them with small arms. They engaged. There wasn?t any return fire against the massive fire from the tanks. One American soldier was yelling, ?Kill the motherf?kers!? This is not a stroll into Baghdad. All along this road they?ve been encountering similar attacks by militia loyal to Saddam who are taking it upon themselves to fight. Bands of Iraqis are resisting, and there are casualties. My car is shrapnel and I?m basically embedded now. I don?t have much chance of going independent again and, to be honest, I don?t know if I want to..........

Full Story: http://www.msnbc.com/news/889555.asp

Is there some point that you wanted to make to me with this link?

stocktrader23 03-24-2003 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Is there some point that you wanted to make to me with this link?

From your original post.

"What resistance that is being put up by Iraqi forces is light resistance and was to be expected. If sand storms do not slow the progress of the main advancing forces, we will have control of the country in a few more days. Do not confuse control with secure. The country of Iraq may not be secure for years to come, if ever. "

Many people are saying the resistance is much more than they expected. Just showing links so you don't think I'm sitting here writing this stuff up as we speak.

theking 03-24-2003 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23


From your original post.

"What resistance that is being put up by Iraqi forces is light resistance and was to be expected. If sand storms do not slow the progress of the main advancing forces, we will have control of the country in a few more days. Do not confuse control with secure. The country of Iraq may not be secure for years to come, if ever. "

Many people are saying the resistance is much more than they expected. Just showing links so you don't think I'm sitting here writing this stuff up as we speak.

I do not think that you are making anything up. I saw a live interview of the Journalist involved in that engagement. The media use to many adjectives and exploitation when presenting stories.

Resistance has been light. There have not been any major battles. The proof of this is the lack of serious numbers of coalition casualties. Just as in the 1st Gulf War up to this point in time accidental deaths exceed those of KIA's. There were more people killed by accidents during the build up in Desert Shield then were killed in Desert Storm. The Iraqi's are like bees stinging the tail of the beast and the beast is driving on to Baghdad slightyly ahead of schedule. At this point in time all is well.


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