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hybrid 03-24-2003 01:34 AM

The End Of All War Protests
 
I'll tell you what, all you anti-war hippies.

Give me an argument in favor of Saddam. It's very easy to critisize America, because we're the instigator in the public eye. But give me a good defense for Saddam to remain in power.

If you can defend him, I'll listen, but I don't think there's anything to justify his regime maintaining control.

stocktrader23 03-24-2003 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
I'll tell you what, all you anti-war hippies.

Give me an argument in favor of Saddam. It's very easy to critisize America, because we're the instigator in the public eye. But give me a good defense for Saddam to remain in power.

If you can defend him, I'll listen, but I don't think there's anything to justify his regime maintaining control.


nevermind

hybrid 03-24-2003 01:36 AM

NO, I really am curious. I want to hear both sides.

galleryseek 03-24-2003 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
NO, I really am curious. I want to hear both sides.
no one will raise any significant points. so you won't hear it.

hybrid 03-24-2003 01:44 AM

So there really is NO defense for Saddam?

C'mon, now, there's GOT to be SOME reason that we've had millions of people turning out to protest the war.

There has to be a reason Boneprone's car got fucked with.

There's got to be a reason people are intentionally trying to "shut down cities" in the name of peace.

I really want to know.

bhutocracy 03-24-2003 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by galleryseek


no one will raise any significant points. so you won't hear it.

because no-one supports saddam, it's a stupid question.

UnseenWorld 03-24-2003 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


because no-one supports saddam, it's a stupid question.


Leaving him in office is de facto supporting him. Leaving him in office frees him to continue to murder and oppress his own people!

Mark 03-24-2003 01:46 AM

He has a fine, bushy and very manly mustache?

:glugglug

BRISK 03-24-2003 01:46 AM

He's charming?

bhutocracy 03-24-2003 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld



Leaving him in office is de facto supporting him. Leaving him in office frees him to continue to murder and oppress his own people!

I didn't say that the consequence of their actions doesn't have that effect.

hybrid 03-24-2003 01:48 AM

Why is it a stupid question?? If you're not for his regime being disposed of, then you're for it remaining.

My question is why? What benefit is there?

bhutocracy 03-24-2003 01:49 AM

I'd say a lot of it is how we're going about it, why we're going about it, and the neglible effect it will probably have on terrorism. Not support for Saddam personally, which would just be silly to believe.

bhutocracy 03-24-2003 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Why is it a stupid question?? If you're not for his regime being disposed of, then you're for it remaining.

My question is why? What benefit is there?

because you're asking a loaded question. Being against THIS war is not the same as getting rid of Saddam.. talking for weeks about 3000 missles shocking and awe-ing iraqi citizens probably boosted protester support.

directfiesta 03-24-2003 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
So there really is NO defense for Saddam?

C'mon, now, there's GOT to be SOME reason that we've had millions of people turning out to protest the war.

There has to be a reason Boneprone's car got fucked with.

There's got to be a reason people are intentionally trying to "shut down cities" in the name of peace.

I really want to know.

Reason for people in the streets ( akll cut and paste from your question):

- protest the war


For war = against Saddam

Against war = against war + against Saddam

BRISK 03-24-2003 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
For war = against Saddam

Against war = against war + against Saddam

What if you don't care either way? Neutral?

Joe Sixpack 03-24-2003 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
I'll tell you what, all you anti-war hippies.

Give me an argument in favor of Saddam. It's very easy to critisize America, because we're the instigator in the public eye. But give me a good defense for Saddam to remain in power.

If you can defend him, I'll listen, but I don't think there's anything to justify his regime maintaining control.

Saddam's my daddy!

He's actually a really nice guy, he just has a few issues!

I think he just needs some counselling and a bit of group therapy!

directfiesta 03-24-2003 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK


What if you don't care either way? Neutral?

You are then a Swiss ....

hybrid 03-24-2003 01:55 AM

I have no onion.

hybrid 03-24-2003 01:56 AM

stinky

DarkJedi 03-24-2003 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid

Give me an argument in favor of Saddam.

here

http://goatse.cx/hello.jpg

Gman.357 03-24-2003 02:03 AM

This argument has been raised in depth a billion times on the board (in one form or another). And niether side did much to change the opinion of the other. I think the only reason you aren' t hearing Joe Six's views here, is because he's getting tired of arguing the same points on the same subject.

It's hard to convince someone the sky REALLY isn't blue, when he plainly sees it to be so.

:2 cents:

bhutocracy 03-24-2003 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Yes, it is a loaded question. But since we're in a situation where there's nothing to reverse it, the question now becomes:

Why should we NOT be doing this? It really makes sense to take this course of action, IMO. The lesser of two evils.

1. Wait for UN sanction so US doesn't ostracise half the world, and strain relationships for years to come.
2. It solidifies Pre-emptive doctrine, meaning North Korea could legitimately launch nukes at the US tomorrow.
3. Weapons Inspectors could have kept Saddam caged indefinately or until multilateral UN commitment for military disarmament. each month would have meant more missiles being destroyed even if newer ones were being made or purchased.
4. More angry muslims = more domestic terror attacks.
5. Takes funds and focus of catching real terrorists like Bin Ladin.
6. He's only hurting his own people or his neighbors, of which Israel could handle him, the CIA guys said Saddam is nothing but a political target with no ties to Alquaeda.

those are probably a few of them.. you'd have to ask around though.. it's not as if im a protestor.

Joe Sixpack 03-24-2003 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
This argument has been raised in depth a billion times on the board (in one form or another). And niether side did much to change the opinion of the other. I think the only reason you aren' t hearing Joe Six's views here, is because he's getting tired of arguing the same points on the same subject.

It's hard to convince someone the sky REALLY isn't blue, when he plainly sees it to be so.

:2 cents:

I told you already, Saddam's my Daddy!

He's a good guy who just gets bad press.

mrthumbs 03-24-2003 02:09 AM

I'll tell you what, all you pro-war hippies.

Give me an argument in favor of Bush. It's very easy to critisize Iraqi, because we're the instigator in the public eye. But give me a good defense for Bush to remain in power.

If you can defend him, I'll listen, but I don't think there's anything to justify his regime maintaining control.

hybrid 03-24-2003 02:09 AM

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1. Wait for UN sanction so US doesn't ostracise half the world, and strain relationships for years to come.
2. It solidifies Pre-emptive doctrine, meaning North Korea could legitimately launch nukes at the US tomorrow.
3. Weapons Inspectors could have kept Saddam caged indefinately or until multilateral UN commitment for military disarmament. each month would have meant more missiles being destroyed even if newer ones were being made or purchased.
4. More angry muslims = more domestic terror attacks.
5. Takes funds and focus of catching real terrorists like Bin Ladin.
6. He's only hurting his own people or his neighbors, of which Israel could handle him, the CIA guys said Saddam is nothing but a political target with no ties to Alquaeda.

those are probably a few of them.. you'd have to ask around though.. it's not as if im a protestor.
Thank you. That's all I was asking for.

hybrid 03-24-2003 02:10 AM

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I'll tell you what, all you pro-war hippies.

Give me an argument in favor of Bush. It's very easy to critisize Iraqi, because we're the instigator in the public eye. But give me a good defense for Bush to remain in power.

If you can defend him, I'll listen, but I don't think there's anything to justify his regime maintaining control.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

directfiesta 03-24-2003 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs
all you pro-war hippies.


LOL..... Hippies....

Why not?

:thumbsup

MetaMan 03-24-2003 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
I'll tell you what, all you anti-war hippies.

Give me an argument in favor of Saddam. It's very easy to critisize America, because we're the instigator in the public eye. But give me a good defense for Saddam to remain in power.

If you can defend him, I'll listen, but I don't think there's anything to justify his regime maintaining control.

Sadaam is looking good these days, looks like hes slimmed down,
and omg there is no other leader who knows how to work the color green as well as he does,

wouldnt u vote for him?

directfiesta 03-24-2003 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by MetaMan


Sadaam is looking good these days, looks like hes slimmed down,
and omg there is no other leader who knows how to work the color green as well as he does,

wouldnt u vote for him?

Who's the opponent? Bush?

galleryseek 03-24-2003 02:24 AM

heres a few questions...

this all boils down to the weapons inspections.

1. exactly how long were the inspections carried out, and did iraq comply with all of the demands?

- it seems to me if the inspections were carried out for a course of years, and the iraqi government wouldn't allow them to conduct the inspections accordingly over a long period of time... then obviously action must be taken right? theres no reason NOT to allow those inspections, only if he had something to hide. which is reason enough to go through with what we're doing now.

i'd hope you all agree that if indeed the weapons inspections were carried out over a long period of time, and we gave them chance after chance after chance, that some sort of action must be taken. we asked for the help of the UN with the information and they backed down. why? did they think iraq would eventually GIVE in?

i'm just unclear of how the inspections went. clarification??

Tuga 03-24-2003 06:17 AM

Stupid questions get no answers.

mule 03-24-2003 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
heres a few questions...
Well to quote G.W. Bush:
"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to
answer questions. I can't answer your question."

cluck 03-24-2003 09:36 AM

Well the real question may be why go after him when we support people who do essentially the same thing. There's alot of shit going around about how he tortures his own people and whatnot. If you're really concerned about that look at what they do in China, Brazil or pretty much anywhere else your clothes are made. The reason it's cool for them to torture their people is that the USA gets big money out of their labor. The USA can only get money out of Iraq if there's a regime change and we start trade with them.

As far as more practical reasons for everyone who doesn't care and thinks that's just the way capitalism should work, see bhutocracy's post.

benthompson 03-24-2003 09:40 AM

I don't think anybody can say that Saddam is innocent and people are not walking to save Saddam.
I think people (including me) are against war. Any war..


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