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bronco67 03-18-2016 04:52 PM

Donald Trump -- The master Businessman
 
a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters

Even worse than I thought. Trump's business strategy is apparently to dump a bunch of ideas in a bucket and throw it at the wall. Whatever lands face up is a worth a try.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 04:53 PM

Multi billionaire

Ummm yea I'd say being a MULTI BILLIONAIRE means you're good at business

So Michael Jordan lost games and missed shots. I guess he sucks at basketball?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 04:55 PM

There's not a single troll on this forum who would even say things as foolish as "Donald Trump is not a good business man" before he ran for President

It's like the Anti Trumpsters have such HATRED and have such a MENTAL block when it comes to this guy. It's amazing! A MULTI billionaire who sucks at business?! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 03-18-2016 05:19 PM

Seems to be a few missing.... Such as the casinos in NJ, and hotels in Florida and Mexico.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20784528)
Seems to be a few missing.... Such as the casinos in NJ, and hotels in Florida and Mexico.

Yet he's still a multi billionaire :1orglaugh

bronco67 03-18-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20784537)
Yet he's still a multi billionaire :1orglaugh

You mean, despite all of that he's still a multi-billionaire...and even that's a dubious claim. He's most likely worth a fraction of what he claims.

Your golden boy is a piece of shit, but it's not like you possess the capacity to see that. All you see is Trump big man, Trump rich, Trump say what feel....me like Trump. He appeals to your lizard brain....and I'll take a wild guess that's what guides you through life.

There was a David Brooks article that summed him up more perfectly than I could...here's an excerpt that pretty much nails Trump.
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Donald Trump is epically unprepared to be president. He has no realistic policies, no advisers, no capacity to learn. His vast narcissism makes him a closed fortress. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know and he’s uninterested in finding out. He insults the office Abraham Lincoln once occupied by running for it with less preparation than most of us would undertake to buy a sofa.

Trump is perhaps the most dishonest person to run for high office in our lifetimes. All politicians stretch the truth, but Trump has a steady obliviousness to accuracy.

This week, the Politico reporters Daniel Lippman, Darren Samuelsohn and Isaac Arnsdorf fact-checked 4.6 hours of Trump speeches and press conferences. They found more than five dozen untrue statements, or one every five minutes.

“His remarks represent an extraordinary mix of inaccurate claims about domestic and foreign policy and personal and professional boasts that rarely measure up when checked against primary sources,” they wrote.

He is a childish man running for a job that requires maturity. He is an insecure boasting little boy whose desires were somehow arrested at age 12. He surrounds himself with sycophants. “You can always tell when the king is here,” Trump’s butler told Jason Horowitz in a recent Times profile. He brags incessantly about his alleged prowess, like how far he can hit a golf ball. “Do I hit it long? Is Trump strong?” he asks.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20784582)
You mean, despite all of that he's still a multi-billionaire...and even that's a dubious claim. He's most likely worth a fraction of what he claims.

Your golden boy is a piece of shit, but it's not like you possess the capacity to see that. All you see is Trump big man, Trump rich, Trump say what fee....me like.

He isn't "claiming" anything....he's worth between $4-10 billion, probably more

You're jealous. You're mind is blocked and you're extremely biased. Trump is better than business than Michael Jordan was at basketball. Did Jordan suck? It is BEYOND childish to call Trump a bad businessman....BEYOND foolish...BEYOND pathetic

bronco67 03-18-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20784588)
He isn't "claiming" anything....he's worth between $4-10 billion, probably more

You're jealous. You're mind is blocked and you're extremely biased. Trump is better than business than Michael Jordan was at basketball. Did Jordan suck? It is BEYOND childish to call Trump a bad businessman....BEYOND foolish...BEYOND pathetic

I don't care how rich someone is. If they're piece of shit, they're just a rich piece of shit. I would never assess someone's worth by how much money they allegedly make.

It's based on how someone carries himself...and all evidence both anecdotal and what I've seen myself says he's a boring, arrogant xenophobic asswipe with a big inheritance and family head start, a moderate amount of skill and whole lot of luck. I feel sorry for his daughter, who seems like an intelligent person.

dyna mo 03-18-2016 05:41 PM

Pro baseball players who only average hitting the ball 1 out of every 3 times (.333) get in the hall of fame for such accomplishments.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20784600)
I don't care how rich someone is. If they're piece of shit, they're just a rich piece of shit. I would never assess someone's worth by how much money they allegedly make.

How is he a "piece of shit"?

So you don't like the guy (opinion) and you're projecting it out by saying he is a bad businessman when he is worth a thousand times more than everyone on this board COMBINED. a BILLIONAIRE....not millionaire...BILLIONAIRE

I don't like Michael Jordan and he sucks at basketball because he has stupid ears! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bronco67 03-18-2016 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20784609)
How is he a "piece of shit"?

So you don't like the guy (opinion) and you're projecting it out by saying he is a bad businessman when he is worth a thousand times more than everyone on this board COMBINED. a BILLIONAIRE....not millionaire...BILLIONAIRE

I don't like Michael Jordan and he sucks at basketball because he has stupid ears! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

read the rest of my post dipshit. Anyway, you don't really make points. You just say "trump rich!!!Durrrr!!!"

Please say something intelligent. I dare you.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20784582)
You mean, despite all of that he's still a multi-billionaire...and even that's a dubious claim. He's most likely worth a fraction of what he claims.

Your golden boy is a piece of shit, but it's not like you possess the capacity to see that. All you see is Trump big man, Trump rich, Trump say what feel....me like Trump. He appeals to your lizard brain....and I'll take a wild guess that's what guides you through life.

There was a David Brooks article that summed him up more perfectly than I could...here's an excerpt that pretty much nails Trump.
----------------------------------------------------
Donald Trump is epically unprepared to be president. He has no realistic policies, no advisers, no capacity to learn. His vast narcissism makes him a closed fortress. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know and he’s uninterested in finding out. He insults the office Abraham Lincoln once occupied by running for it with less preparation than most of us would undertake to buy a sofa.

Trump is perhaps the most dishonest person to run for high office in our lifetimes. All politicians stretch the truth, but Trump has a steady obliviousness to accuracy.

This week, the Politico reporters Daniel Lippman, Darren Samuelsohn and Isaac Arnsdorf fact-checked 4.6 hours of Trump speeches and press conferences. They found more than five dozen untrue statements, or one every five minutes.

“His remarks represent an extraordinary mix of inaccurate claims about domestic and foreign policy and personal and professional boasts that rarely measure up when checked against primary sources,” they wrote.

He is a childish man running for a job that requires maturity. He is an insecure boasting little boy whose desires were somehow arrested at age 12. He surrounds himself with sycophants. “You can always tell when the king is here,” Trump’s butler told Jason Horowitz in a recent Times profile. He brags incessantly about his alleged prowess, like how far he can hit a golf ball. “Do I hit it long? Is Trump strong?” he asks.

He has plenty of realistic policies, advisers and a huge capacity to learn. You can't just say he doesn't have these things when you can listen to his speeches and go to his website lol wtf? He easily has the highest IQ (around 150) of anyone still in the race. It is David Brooks OPINION that he doesn't, because well, he doesn't like Trump. That's the problem with liberals...they have a negative OPINION of someone then project it out. No matter how much you hate Michael Jordan, he was still a great basketball player. Facts don't change because of your useless opinions.

Politico is a left leaning Hillary Clinton donating newspaper. Why don't they fact check any of Clinton or Bernie's speeches? Or how about Clinton's emails or all the women Bill raped? Why do they only go after Trump? And most of those "facts" that they "check" are Trump's OPINIONS! Unreal!

Again, no facts no arguments, no counter arguments no nothing. Just typical lefist name calling. Getting boring

Robbie 03-18-2016 05:48 PM

Here we go again...

So much hatred and vitriol from the "liberal" people...

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20784624)
Here we go again...

So much hatred and vitriol from the "liberal" people...

Trump has no real policies and has the mind of a 12 year old kid!

But somehow graduated with a dual major from Upenn, is a billionaire, has the most successful reality tv show of all time, the most successful business book of all time and is the most successful politician now...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 03-18-2016 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20784582)
You mean, despite all of that he's still a multi-billionaire...

The difference is.... When you are a real businessman and you get a loan for two million and you fuck it up and loose it all.... You are shit out of luck, loose your house, and you will most likely never get a business loan again.

But when you are Donald Trump you just got out and get another loan and try again.

pimpmaster9000 03-19-2016 04:10 AM

looking at all the failed investments he does not seem like a good businessman...its literally like he was pulling business ideas out of a bowl and then just putting the "Trump" name on them and hoping they would bring in money...

I see zero passion and preparation in his undertakings and the only thing present is his desire to put the name "TRUMP" on stuff...

he inherited millions from daddy and went bankrupt only 4 times, I see no real sign of any genius, and when I hear him speak I do not see even normal intelligence...

shit I hope he wins LOL

Helix 03-19-2016 05:40 AM

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Sednub997 03-19-2016 05:48 AM

He thinks he's the best and know all

Barry-xlovecam 03-19-2016 06:34 AM

Truth is there are people out there, right now and pulling the strings, that can buy and sell Donald Trump on a bad day :2 cents:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa...s-tax-plan.pdf

woj 03-19-2016 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20784765)
The difference is.... When you are a real businessman and you get a loan for two million and you fuck it up and loose it all.... You are shit out of luck, loose your house, and you will most likely never get a business loan again.

But when you are Donald Trump you just got out and get another loan and try again.

that's nonsense... most successful businessmen fucked up on their way up, often multiple times... just think about your own life/business, did every decision you make work out? of course not, some worked out, many did not... when you fucked up, were you out of the game? of course not, so why would it be any different for Trump or anyone else? :2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 03-19-2016 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20784981)
that's nonsense... most successful businessmen fucked up on their way up, often multiple times... just think about your own life/business, did every decision you make work out? of course not, some worked out, many did not... when you fucked up, were you out of the game? of course not, so why would it be any different for Trump or anyone else? :2 cents:

if it was any other business than real estate and gambling I would agree...but you would have to be a dumb mother fucker to lose money on real estate and gambling in the USA with daddys millions and experience and connections...face it, he is nothing special at best...

he has good lawyers who shield him from any responsibility...his "billions in value" is kinda like kim kardashians "value" his name is basically making him money...

DraX 03-19-2016 07:08 AM

The comments are totally out of reality and drifting out into space as we speak.

Most entrepreneurs reaching fortune have on their way failed many times. Just like in the game of life you gain experience.

Many have been lucky too, right time right place, timings are everything.

woj 03-19-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20784999)
if it was any other business than real estate and gambling I would agree...but you would have to be a dumb mother fucker to lose money on real estate and gambling in the USA with daddys millions and experience and connections...face it, he is nothing special at best...

he has good lawyers who shield him from any responsibility...his "billions in value" is kinda like kim kardashians "value" his name is basically making him money...

like I said, some deals work out, some don't... nothing unusual about that... or are you trying to imply that ALL real estate development deals are supposed to work out? :error

I'm not saying he is some brilliant businessman, he probably isn't, but calling him a "dumb mother fucker" is just ridiculous... despite some of his "failures", he accomplished 100x more in life than everyone on gfy combined...

The Porn Nerd 03-19-2016 07:20 AM

Donald Trump is worth billions ON PAPER. It's not like he's got billions in cash floating around.

The thing with Trump is he was willing to go bankrupt then use his fame as a way to get more loans even despite his multiple bankruptcies. Anyone claiming in this thread Trump is just your typical entrepreneur who failed before he succeeded is high on drugs. LOL

NO "businessman" with multiple bankruptcies can obtain loans and re-start as easily as Trump did. So HOW did he do it? Ah right...by going back to daddy and convincing his feeble father to put HIS assets on the line so Trump could continue to play at being a businessman.

Man, Americans sure are a bunch of children, aren't we? We hear the 'B' word and think that trumps everything else about a person (pun intended). Hey, did all you billionaire-worshippers love Ross Perot when HE ran as an outsider, independent, not-beholden-to-anyone businessman? Nope. You like Trump because he gives you permission to be a low-class, ignorant bully. Just like your hero Trump.

I am also guessing Trump supporters really loved and miss George W. Bush, too. Those were good times, weren't they? We NEED another asshole in the White House!!

dyna mo 03-19-2016 07:24 AM

pointing your finger at Trump supporters and exclaiming "low class ignorant bully" doesn't help your cause.

Paul Markham 03-19-2016 07:39 AM

His real worth is what he has in the bank or in real estate he owns outright as an empty shell.

I say this because anything he values as an ongoing business. could tank or could be threatened by outsiders who don't like what he's doing. Like his holding in the ME. Or a global economic downturn.

His problem will be explaining what his policies will cost Americans. Stopping or restricting Chinese import will make those products more expensive.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20785050)
His real worth is what he has in the bank or in real estate he owns outright as an empty shell.

I say this because anything he values as an ongoing business. could tank or could be threatened by outsiders who don't like what he's doing. Like his holding in the ME. Or a global economic downturn.

His problem will be explaining what his policies will cost Americans. Stopping or restricting Chinese import will make those products more expensive.

Holy fuck you are retarded

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 07:58 AM

I assume we have a lot of multi millionaires and billionaires here on GFY?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20785026)
Donald Trump is worth billions ON PAPER. It's not like he's got billions in cash floating around.

The thing with Trump is he was willing to go bankrupt then use his fame as a way to get more loans even despite his multiple bankruptcies. Anyone claiming in this thread Trump is just your typical entrepreneur who failed before he succeeded is high on drugs. LOL

NO "businessman" with multiple bankruptcies can obtain loans and re-start as easily as Trump did. So HOW did he do it? Ah right...by going back to daddy and convincing his feeble father to put HIS assets on the line so Trump could continue to play at being a businessman.

Man, Americans sure are a bunch of children, aren't we? We hear the 'B' word and think that trumps everything else about a person (pun intended). Hey, did all you billionaire-worshippers love Ross Perot when HE ran as an outsider, independent, not-beholden-to-anyone businessman? Nope. You like Trump because he gives you permission to be a low-class, ignorant bully. Just like your hero Trump.

I am also guessing Trump supporters really loved and miss George W. Bush, too. Those were good times, weren't they? We NEED another asshole in the White House!!

He never went bankrupt. Not even close. Total lies. Stop lying.

Trump is a billionaire. In case you didn't know, a billionaire has more than a millionaire...but because you beta cuckold losers don't like Trump, you will sit here and say he isn't a good businessman :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Who in the FUCK can you be a billionaire and NOT be a good businessman!?

lol of course he doesn't have $10 billion in cash laying around you dumb fuck jesus christ you people are getting worse by the day

mineistaken 03-19-2016 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20784603)
Pro baseball players who only average hitting the ball 1 out of every 3 times (.333) get in the hall of fame for such accomplishments.

Libbies for the most part have no idea what it is to be a businessman and that is perfectly natural to bankrupt many times.

Yeah, he is absolutely failed businessman, only few bucks in his pockets.

mineistaken 03-19-2016 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20784624)
Here we go again...

Libbies think alike, ********** had same/similar thread, just the link is different:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ter-worse.html

Have been debunked like usual :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20784624)
So much hatred and vitriol from the "liberal" people...

:2 cents:
Most hateful people.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20785122)
Libbies for the most part have no idea what it is to be a businessman and that is perfectly natural to bankrupt many times.

Yeah, he is absolutely failed businessman, only few bucks in his pockets.


He never went bankrupt

The Porn Nerd 03-19-2016 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20785146)
He never went bankrupt

Google is your friend.

How is Donald Trump Able to File for Bankruptcy So Many Times?

Not PERSONAL bankruptcy (he never would with his daddy behind him) but his oh-so-wonderful BUSINESSES did four times.

You know, all those amazing genius businesses he ran that makes your dick hard? Yah those. About every 4-6 years Trump's companies declared bankruptcy. And hey, that's less than a two-term Presidency!

So the US economy would be much better off in his hands. LOLZ

L-Pink 03-19-2016 09:01 AM

Corporations he owned filed for bankruptcy Donald Trump never did.

The Porn Nerd 03-19-2016 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20785218)
Corporations he owned filed for bankruptcy Donald Trump never did.

Yes businesses he ran and controlled declared bankruptcy four times (or once every 4-6 years). And this genius businessman who successfully ran his billion-dollar businesses into bankruptcy is the man you want running the US economy?

Or do you think bankrupting the US economy will be as good for America as it has been for the Trump brand?

dyna mo 03-19-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20785275)
Yes businesses he ran and controlled declared bankruptcy four times (or once every 4-6 years). And this genius businessman who successfully ran his billion-dollar businesses into bankruptcy is the man you want running the US economy?

Or do you think bankrupting the US economy will be as good for America as it has been for the Trump brand?

so sell me on your guy then. ...

Robbie 03-19-2016 09:47 AM

What Porn Nerd isn't mentioning (or doesn't know) is that all 4 of the only bankruptcy's any of Trump's companys declared all happened during the Atlantic City crash and were all at the Casino's he owned there as he restructured and closed them.

So yeah, if you want to think Trump is suddenly a terrible businessman. Go ahead.

Me? I'm listening to what he actually SAYS he is going to do for the country.

Based on that I would vote for Trump if I were going to vote between only he and Hillary.
But since I am aware of other party's in this country I am going to vote for Johnson because I want to live in a free society.
Something that neither Trump or Hillary are talking about at all.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20785275)
Yes businesses he ran and controlled declared bankruptcy four times (or once every 4-6 years). And this genius businessman who successfully ran his billion-dollar businesses into bankruptcy is the man you want running the US economy?

Or do you think bankrupting the US economy will be as good for America as it has been for the Trump brand?

So 4 bankruptcies out of 100s of businesses and he isn't a good business man? I guess Michael Jordan sucks too

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20785293)
What Porn Nerd isn't mentioning (or doesn't know) is that all 4 of the only bankruptcy's any of Trump's companys declared all happened during the Atlantic City crash and were all at the Casino's he owned there as he restructured and closed them.

So yeah, if you want to think Trump is suddenly a terrible businessman. Go ahead.

Me? I'm listening to what he actually SAYS he is going to do for the country.

Based on that I would vote for Trump if I were going to vote between only he and Hillary.
But since I am aware of other party's in this country I am going to vote for Johnson because I want to live in a free society.
Something that neither Trump or Hillary are talking about at all.

lol I was with you until Gary Johnson. Another career politician all talk no action - don't waste your vote

dyna mo 03-19-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20785302)
lol I was with you until Gary Johnson. Another career politician all talk no action - don't waste your vote

why not let the man be with his choice for whom he votes for? he's obviously put some thought in it. respect that. and his choice. you don't like it when others disrespect your choice, that's why you slamming the board with threads about it.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20785311)
why not let the man be with his choice for whom he votes for? he's obviously put some thought in it. respect that. and his choice. you don't like it when others disrespect your choice, that's why you slamming the board with threads about it.

Gary Johnson is a total joke just like Ron Paul...they've accomplished nothing and you hear from them every 4 years. Total cucks!

dyna mo 03-19-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20785320)
Gary Johnson is a total joke just like Ron Paul...they've accomplished nothing and you hear from them every 4 years. Total cucks!

you get more bees with honey.

L-Pink 03-19-2016 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20785275)
Yes businesses he ran and controlled declared bankruptcy four times (or once every 4-6 years). And this genius businessman who successfully ran his billion-dollar businesses into bankruptcy is the man you want running the US economy?

Or do you think bankrupting the US economy will be as good for America as it has been for the Trump brand?

Every successful business person I know, me included has had a turd or two in his past. Every person on this board probably has had a site that sucked. Every single site you have created was successful? Or do you have failed webmaster as part of your own resume?

But for your argument just where does that put the two Dem's? Bernie who has never run anything in his life or Hillary with her Whitewater failure? Based on your own logic a multi billionaire who has made mistakes and learned from them, experience, is the logical answer over the two Dem's who have zero success rate as business people.

dyna mo 03-19-2016 10:22 AM

don't forget, the Clinton's left the WH flat broke, that's according to Hilllary.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20785338)
Every successful business person I know, me included has had a turd or two in his past. Every person on this board probably has had a site that sucked. Every single site you have created was successful? Or do you have failed webmaster as part of your own resume?

But for your argument just where does that put the two Dem's? Bernie who has never run anything in his life or Hillary with her Whitewater failure? Based on your own logic a multi billionaire who has made mistakes and learned from them, experience, is the logical answer over the two Dem's who have zero success rate as business people.

Michael Jordan never missed a shot and Bernie is the greatest!

L-Pink 03-19-2016 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20785344)
don't forget, the Clinton's left the WH flat broke, that's according to Hilllary.

And now have a hundred million from wall street bankers.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 10:26 AM

Even Hillary has given unsuccessful speeches...

dyna mo 03-19-2016 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20785356)
Even Hillary has given unsuccessful speeches...

she still got paid off for them.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-19-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20785359)
she still got paid off for them.

Millions...then you're called a "conspiracy theorist" for thinking that they MIGHT be a bribe :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bronco67 03-19-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20785350)
Michael Jordan never missed a shot and Bernie is the greatest!

Comparing throwing a basketball at a hole and business ventures is a false equivalency. The point isn't how many failures Trump has had but as pointed out earlier in the thread that the man just sticks his name on some crap hoping it'll make money. A business mill with no heart or soul isn't impressive.


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