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Barry-xlovecam 03-18-2016 12:15 PM

Humans Need Not Apply -- what happens to the jobs?
 



Bye bye Meatbags


JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-18-2016 12:15 PM

Frees them up to do actual important shit

ITraffic 03-18-2016 12:17 PM

https://www.whywork.org/rethinking/w.../rawilson.html

or

smash the machines and their owners if they resist.

no point being helpless and fatalistic about it.

blackmonsters 03-18-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20783793)



Bye bye Meatbags



This is why porn is so important.
Robots will need humans to entertain them with porn after they take over.
Not even robots want to see robots fucking.

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 03-18-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20783850)
This is why porn is so important.
Robots will need humans to entertain them with porn after they take over.
Not even robots want to see robots fucking.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Seriously, that is one job that won't be automated notwithstanding anime or cartoon porn.

But the robots will get no pay ... Robots would need a ''robot stamps'' subsidy. Why would robots want to fap anyway? What would a robot want to buy? A robot is property maintained by its owner. Like an auto, in 10 to 20 years it is spare parts and scrap metals.

420 03-18-2016 01:00 PM

Robocops will still kill innocents.

Barry-xlovecam 03-18-2016 01:16 PM



Military robots are already here.

I imagine that the worker robots will be guarded by weaponized "security bots"

Innocents?
Robocops?
Dangerous jobs in public safety like police and fire fighting will be done by robots. Robocops would not be prejudiced cops. Action and reaction. The robocop should not care what race you are -- you are just a meatbag to be judged equally.

Mickey_ 03-18-2016 06:00 PM

Jobs that did not exist in the past will be created as a part of the new industrial revolution and the on-demand sharing economy. Some humans will adapt and earn a living that way.

Some humans will assist robots and earn a living that way.

And some will be casualties of the revolution, the financial burden of which will be, in part, carried by the collective(tax payers).

MiamiBoyz 03-18-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20784651)
Jobs that did not exist in the past will be created as a part of the new industrial revolution and the on-demand sharing economy. Some humans will adapt and earn a living that way.

Some humans will assist robots and earn a living that way.

And some will be casualties of the revolution, the financial burden of which will be, in part, carried by the collective(tax payers).

OR more likely, those who do not adapt will be logically and unemotionally eliminated by the machines as an unnecessary burden on society.

oppoten 03-18-2016 09:25 PM

Substitute "humans" for gentiles and "bots" for jews, and you'll get why he posted it.

Your soft-looking Israeli soldiers could do with some hard physical labor :2 cents:

SBJ 03-18-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20783913)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Seriously, that is one job that won't be automated notwithstanding anime or cartoon porn.

You don't think so? Maybe not in our life but who's to say that in the future a pornstar poses nude for a scanner and a computer can make said girl do all kinds of CGI porn.. No need for condom porn if it's CGI. What if every cumshot could be a peter north size shot via CGI?

Spunky 03-18-2016 10:02 PM

The man must never win completely

pimpmaster9000 03-19-2016 03:55 AM

dumb dumb humans making their own replacement...

first the poor will be out of any sort of low skill job (yaaaay for the rich)

then the machines will get better (yaaay for the rich)

and in the end they will get really really good...the end...

Barry-xlovecam 03-19-2016 06:17 AM

AI is already replacing the outsorced call center worker (in India usually) that replaced the US based call center worker in customer support. AI is not the total replacement but it is the filter and the service representative that tries to resolve common occurrence problems.

AI is more cost efficient in many applications than a US mid-skilled worker (now relegated to meatbag status) or a developing world meatbag.

The select coffee machine coffee maker and serving machine can replace the human that is shown in that video. You can sit at the sidewalk café after you get and pay for your espresso or cappuccino -- for most of us this would work. If you want to pay 2 or 3 times the price for a more human experience you could pay Starbucks prices ...

The automated grocery store scanner check-out is here today. They have had them here for some time. One human supervises every 6 operating machines -- the customers do the labor of scanning the items and bagging. No discount is offered to the customer in return for the customer's labor in the process -- prices haven't decreased -- profits probably have.

This is the POST-industrial revolution -- the information economy -- the Luddite lost the first round and the Luddite is losing this second round also. Maybe, people will be outsourced to where they can best do the work available. Not going to happen; we will need to give out ''social benefits'' or make food out of obsolete workers.

Bringing back the obsolete jobs is total bullshit.

pimpmaster9000 03-19-2016 07:10 AM

that boston dynamics robot scares the fuck out of me, not in a terminator sense, but in the sense of how good it has become, in 10 years that mother fucker will be walking like a human, doing precision stuff...

at one point, somebody will come out with the i-worker and i-printer...I can see the adverts now:

"get just one robot and one printer and the single robot will assemble 100-s more! why pay for workers when you can grow them at home? our plug-and-produce solution will fill your factories with robots and production machines and lines in no time!"

in 10 -20 years time robots will be able to fully make and assemble other robots from raw material<----think about this, let the finality of the situation sink in..."free labor just add raw material"

arock10 03-19-2016 08:36 AM

I can't wait to blame all the out of work humans for being fucking lazy when robots do all the jobs

Barry-xlovecam 03-19-2016 02:54 PM

The Machines are going to win
 
Carl's Jr CEO - Try A $15 Minimum Wage And See Those Jobs Get Automated Out Of Existence - Forbes

Carl's Jr is a hamburger chain based in Southern California

Quote:

The importance being that some 50% of the people who get the minimum wage are in this fast food and casual dining business. And about 50% of the people in that business get the minimum wage. Thus the impact of a higher minimum wage is going to be felt here: and if the sector can be largely, or even only partially, automated then a significant rise in labour costs is going to lead to a significant fall in the amount of labour employed.

Klen 03-19-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20785998)

Robots still have one disadvantage over humans - security aspects. If a fast food joint is fully operated by robots, you can just ignore them and steal whatever you want. Plus, i'v seen automated sandwich machine(it making an actual sandwich, not the conserved versions) but dont think anyone care about it, and i dont dare to try it either, despise i like to drink coffe from automated machine.

Barry-xlovecam 03-19-2016 05:04 PM

Some human supervision will always be necessary when dealing with other humans.
Maybe a few people and many automation robots.
Like my automated check out line example above.

Look on the bright side -- the robot cannot spit on your food or piss in your coke :1orglaugh
  1. The robot has no hostility, depression nor human emotion or inconsistency.
  2. Kept in repair the robot shows up for work on time every day.
  3. Robots do not abuse alcohol or drugs nor waste time on infatuations with other robots.

ITraffic 03-20-2016 11:52 AM

The future of the machine worker is here - Business Insider

should real https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Moravec to get a grip on what our realty will be within our lifetimes.

Colmike9 03-20-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20786193)
Robots still have one disadvantage over humans - security aspects. If a fast food joint is fully operated by robots, you can just ignore them and steal whatever you want. Plus, i'v seen automated sandwich machine(it making an actual sandwich, not the conserved versions) but dont think anyone care about it, and i dont dare to try it either, despise i like to drink coffe from automated machine.

They've had entire stores as basically vending machines in Japan for a while. it will be about the same with how money is managed and I'm guessing the part where the food is made will be locked off from people or pre-portioned and auto fed...


But, there will be a higher demand for repairs/tech support, manufacturing and shipping of the robots, upgrades, competition, new lines of robo-made foods, etc. which will just make new jobs in place of the lost cashiers and will most likely pay more and allow more people to have living wages. :winkwink:

Paul Markham 03-21-2016 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20783913)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Seriously, that is one job that won't be automated notwithstanding anime or cartoon porn.

But the robots will get no pay ... Robots would need a ''robot stamps'' subsidy. Why would robots want to fap anyway? What would a robot want to buy? A robot is property maintained by its owner. Like an auto, in 10 to 20 years it is spare parts and scrap metals.

Robots get no pay, Third World Workers get so little they're not a real market for porn. So enjoy your cheap iPod, while you can.

When machines do so many jobs the need for workers is minimal. There will have to be very high taxation. Otherwise, not enough people will have enough money to buy anything.

Examples of how the scenario of an elite 1%, 10% middle class and 89% in poverty. Ends up are everywhere. Russia being the most extreme.

Paul Markham 03-21-2016 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20783796)
Frees them up to do actual important shit

http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...1002111873.jpg

Or in your case, posting.

pimpmaster9000 03-21-2016 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20789154)
Examples of how the scenario of an elite 1%, 10% middle class and 89% in poverty. Ends up are everywhere. Russia being the most extreme.

10% middle class? you are being very generous there...more like 1% top 1% middle 98% district 9

Barry-xlovecam 03-21-2016 06:33 AM

Robots are business personal property (as opposed to real property[buildings and land]). In most US states business personal property, most notably fixtures, machines and equipment are taxed. The robot owners would pay tax on the value of their robots annually -- this varies by state but is less than 10% of the value assessed -- maybe averaging 5 or 6%. That is one revenue stream.

New tax revenue schemas:
Maybe, the robot's owner will have to pay a worker displacement tax however that tax is a whole lot less than the proposed $15/hr minimum wage for minimal skilled workers whose jobs have been displaced by robotics. Should that tax be too expensive in the post-industrial-age economies the robots could be exported to subsidiary factories in third world nations with lower tax rates. New shirt and tie factories if you get my drift ...

Robot Repair Technician Wanted
AI Software Engineer Wanted
Robot Manufacturing Skilled Trades Wanted ( to supervise, setup and program the production machinery).

Free education to qualifying humans for trades like this OK.

The new wave of Luddite will lose like the Luddite that preceded him -- history will repeat itself as usual.

CaptainHowdy 03-21-2016 06:36 AM

Let robots do the work ...

Barry-xlovecam 03-21-2016 06:47 AM

By your logic Paul if I wanted to put in the footings for a building I would have to hire 200 ditch diggers @ $15.00/hr and put shovels in their hands because I refuse to bring in excavators, backhoes, a few machine operators and a few labourers to dig my building foundation.

200 men with shovels and a year's time and aggravation or an excavation crew and the job is done in a few days for 1/10th the cost with little aggravation.

_Richard_ 03-21-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20789154)
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Examples of how the scenario of an elite 1%, 10% middle class and 89% in poverty. Ends up are everywhere. Russia being the most extreme.

how did you get that Russia was the most extreme?

Barry-xlovecam 03-21-2016 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20789664)
how did you get that Russia was the most extreme?


That sounds like the Czarist Russia my grandfathers came to the USA from -- they were peasants and Russia was not very industrialized at that time c. 1890 - 1900

Minimum wage -- what's a wage -- gimme a piece of meat with my borscht.


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