Genetic Study: Roma Gypsies Descended From Indian 'Untouchables'
 

Gypsies have long believed they have origins in India, citing common Sanskrit words in their languages and photographs of darker-skinned ancestors in South Asian clothes, while earlier research has offered some scientific support for their suspicions.

Now a study led by Indian and Estonian academics, including Dr Toomas Kivisild of Cambridge University, has confirmed their origins in the Indian sub-continent, and even identified the location and social background from which they emerged.

The findings have been welcomed by Britain's Gypsy Council, which said it would help to promote understanding of Roma people throughout Europe. "We are Britain's first Non-Resident Indian community," said council spokesman Joseph Jones.

The study, which was published this month in the journal Nature, examined Y chromosomes in DNA samples to compare the genetic signatures of European Roma men with those of thousands of Indians from throughout the sub-continent.

Scientists from Hyderabad's Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology collaborated with colleagues in Estonia and Switzerland to compare more than 10,000 samples, including from members of 214 different Indian ethnic groups. They were analysed to match a South Asian Y chromosome type known as "haplogroup H1a1a-M82", which passes down male bloodlines, with samples from Roma men in Europe.

While there were matches with samples from men throughout the Indian sub-continent, the closest match and the least genetic variation occurred with those from north-west India.

When the researchers overlaid the closest matches onto a genetic map of India, the highest density was in areas dominated by India's "doma", "scheduled tribes and castes" â?? the low caste dalits or untouchables who suffer widespread and generational discrimination and usually do society's dirtiest jobs.

The researchers believe the descendants of today's Roma gypsies in Europe began their westward exodus first to fight in wars in what is today Punjab between 1001 and 1026 on the promise of a promotion in caste status.

Later, they left to flee the fall of Hindu kingdoms in what is today Pakistan, with many setting off from near Gilgit.

The exodus to North Africa and Europe suggested they may have been early refugees from the spread of Islam into the Indian sub-continent. Dr Kivisild said the study had provided "evidence for the further interpretation of history of what kind of processes were triggerimg these movements".

Gypsy groups in Britain trace their own roots back first to Egypt â?? where they believe the name "gypsy" comes from â?? and beyond that to India. Joseph Jones of the Gypsy Council said early photographs show British gypsies with Indian facial features and styles of dress until 100 years ago.

He said the new study was helpful because it had scientifically confirmed the Indian origin of Britain and Europe's Roma community and that their common heritage should be accepted now by newer Indian communities in Britain. "We're not outcasts here. I don't care if we are associated with dalits â?? I don't live in a community where caste exists. I do feel a bit Indian, I've always felt an affinity with Indians," he said.

Gypsies were first noticed in Britain in around 1500 and acquired a reputation as itinerant craftsmen, traders and horse dealers.

European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic study shows - Telegraph

How the mighty have fallen ...

Gipsies prove it's hard to beat culture. The excuse is, they're discriminated against.

Tell that to the second generation Jews, whose parents worked hard to give them an education so they could become high skilled professionals.

This applies to other cultures who migrated to the UK.

UK exam results by ethnicity

Now read this about how being poor affects different races achievements.

It has nothing to do with race. It's all about culture. Even in areas of poverty migrant children do better than Native. Because the native families at the bottom want to stay there and be subsidised.

the original aryans ....

fixed it for you

Itinerant people found to have come from somewhere else *shock*

What is the point you are making? It is an interesting genetic study though. However, look at other peoples and you'll probably find many have distant relatives. We're all from Africa, right?

They are worst scum in Europe, at least until Arabs entered inside.

EU delivered tons of them here to Serbia and forced Serbia to accept them. They are stealing,attacking,making problems. When state gave them housing containers, they sold equipment and resumed to live like a cattle.

I am just reading that one slaughtered taxi driver last night. He admitted one more killing last year when he stabbed a beggar on the street.

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Nothing new here, they was the lowest cast guys in some place of India, and:

Gypsies - Metapedia

[Warning, politically correctness filter OFF] Several studies of the IQ of Gypsies have found average IQs ranging from 70 to 83
Many attempts to improve the living conditions and/or integrate the Gypsies into the larger society has been tried. All such attempt have been stated to have been without success.

I checked how the current Gilgit area (pakistan) people look like, here it is, there may be a resemblance in fact:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k0ZNLRHnDj...+Baltistan.jpg

But that's after 600 or more years the romani left, guys who kept there was mixed lots of times with lots of others.

I have always known that - I don't know how I know it, but I have talked about it on a number of occasions with various people...

I fucked a gypsy girl recently...I paid her to role play, she had to ring on my door bell and ask if I had old newspapers (they go door to door and collect old newspapers also dumpster to dumpster) and I let her in and fucked her in the ass...fucking a gypsy girl is supposed to bring you luck :2 cents::2 cents:

dasss waciss, at least how brainwashed madalton would view your post :1orglaugh