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MetaMan 02-08-2016 12:07 PM

Is it possible to charge fat people more for food? Like a consumption tax?
 
Fat people in general. Especially fat women disgust me.

We all know fat people put a drain on the health system. So technically shouldnt they be charged more for consuming more?

I saw a fat woman buying 3 kinds of ice cream at the checkout and i almost puked. If her bill was 5x the amount maybe the beached whale would think twice. Or flubber back into the ocean away from society where i wouldnt have to deal with her appearence.

What do u think?

dyna mo 02-08-2016 12:11 PM

why don't we just get rid of motorized shopping carts? that will keep them out of the stores

CurrentlySober 02-08-2016 12:15 PM

We are starting a 'Sugar Tax' in the UK

420 02-08-2016 12:15 PM

Walmart must limit customers to one ice cream flavor per purchase. That reminds me, one time I sawr a tub of ice cream with 3 different flavors inside. Whoa.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 02-08-2016 12:20 PM

Aren't they technically charged more for consuming more since they buy more?

420 02-08-2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20724282)
Aren't they technically charged more for consuming more since they buy more?

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Scott McD 02-08-2016 12:22 PM

Not sure about food, since the food will have already been priced......but !

Flights is different. This dude pays the same as the guy next to him. Yet the guy next to him will get an extra charge if his luggage is 1kg over the allowance.

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Since extra weight = extra fuel costs etc right ? So if that's the case why does the dude who weighs 3x the guy next to him pay the same for tickets..

MakeMeGrrrrowl 02-08-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20724286)
Not sure about food, since the food will have already been priced......but !

Flights is different. This dude pays the same as the guy next to him. Yet the guy next to him will get an extra charge if his luggage is 1kg over the allowance.


Since extra weight = extra fuel costs etc right ? So if that's the case why does the dude who weighs 3x the guy next to him pay the same for tickets..

I thought grossly obese people had to purchase two seats?

MetaMan 02-08-2016 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20724282)
Aren't they technically charged more for consuming more since they buy more?

It is about a per item charge.

They should have special checkouts with scales where small children can point and be amused at the many fat asses being weighed for consumption limits.

MetaMan 02-08-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20724266)
why don't we just get rid of motorized shopping carts? that will keep them out of the stores

This is a very good point. I see fat people in them all the time. Like dont u get it!? U should be walking el fatso.

CDSmith 02-08-2016 12:30 PM

Why not go all out? Install floor scales in front of every checkout line in every grocery store. Mandatory, no exceptions. You have to weigh in before you get to unload your cart. Each person's weight is displayed on a big digital readout overhead. If over a certain amount they get hit with a fat tax, +$20 per 50 lbs over.

Why the shame factor alone...



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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724292)
They should have special checkouts with scales where small children can point and be amused at the many fat asses being weighed for consumption limits.

Oh shit this can't be my 'great minds think alike' moment can it? ha ha

Thing is, I was going for the ridiculous factor. You I think on the other hand are being dead serious. :1orglaugh

420 02-08-2016 12:32 PM

I don't like the tax or fee idea. Scale says you're overweight = you must buy the low fat or diet version of everything in your shopping cart.

MetaMan 02-08-2016 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20724297)
Why not go all out? Install floor scales in front of every checkout line in every grocery store. Mandatory, no exceptions. You have to weigh in before you get to unload your cart. Each person's weight is displayed on a big digital readout overhead. If over a certain amount they get hit with a fat tax, +$20 per 50 lbs over.

Why the shame factor alone...



EDIT:

Oh shit this can't be my 'great minds think alike' moment can it?

Agreed it would be great to have sound effects with it. Like a long farting sound that auto plays when the fatness limit is breached.

MetaMan 02-08-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20724303)
I don't like the tax or fee idea. Scale says you're overweight = you must buy the low fat or diet version of everything in your shopping cart.

Fatties will just buy 10x the amount to get their fill. "Low fat" to gordos is a free pass to lard up on the portion size.

420 02-08-2016 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724310)
Agreed it would be great to have sound effects with it. Like a long farting sound that auto plays when the fatness limit is breached.


blackmonsters 02-08-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20724283)

:1orglaugh

Piper Blush 02-08-2016 01:26 PM

I am more for a tax on clothes! Why does my small t-shirt cost the same as the x-large, when there is much more fabric! I want to pay less...

MetaMan 02-08-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper Blush (Post 20724360)
I am more for a tax on clothes! Why does my small t-shirt cost the same as the x-large, when there is much more fabric! I want to pay less...

Agreed they are basically ripping you off to pay for the extra yardage.

Technically fuel should also cost more for fat people. They burn more and cause extra stress on the car.

Rob 02-08-2016 02:04 PM

In today's society, you're not even supposed to call someone fat. It's considered insensitive and they may be offended.

Colmike9 02-08-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20724291)
I thought grossly obese people had to purchase two seats?

Around here they would have to buy 2 seats. :2 cents:

420 02-08-2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20724392)
In today's society, you're not even supposed to call someone fat. It's considered insensitive and they may be offended.

Shut up fatty. :error:mad:

TheSquealer 02-08-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724292)
It is about a per item charge.

They should have special checkouts with scales where small children can point and be amused at the many fat asses being weighed for consumption limits.

When we were little, this happened anyway. If a person was even just overweight, kids would stop and stare and point, people would snicker etc. Today, we have to give them handicapped parking and applaud their courage and give them free motorized scooters to go buy more junk food as they avoid exercise.

Who remembers those Special K commercials??? "can you pinch an inch?" - we are almost to the point today that you get shamed for having low body fat.

Oh how far we've fallen............... imagine running these ads today and the confusion and outrage they would cause





Rochard 02-08-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20724282)
Aren't they technically charged more for consuming more since they buy more?

That's what I was thinking.

Also, it's not always that they are eating more. It's most likely a combination of eating poorly and a lack of exercise.

MetaMan 02-08-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20724399)
When we were little, this happened anyway. If a person was even just overweight, kids would stop and stare and point, people would snicker etc. Today, we have to give them handicapped parking and applaud their courage and give them free motorized scooters to go buy more junk food as they avoid exercise.

Who remembers those Special K commercials??? "can you pinch an inch?" - we are almost to the point today that you get shamed for having low body fat.

Oh how far we've fallen...............





LOL we need these today more than ever.

I dont get all the huff about "body shaming". If you are fat you should be shamed. Especially women. When i see an overweight woman i imagine a stanky vagina and her buttering her fat fold.

How as a woman whos one of main purposes is to look beautiful for men do this to themselves?

I will walk down the ice cream isle just to give fat people bad looks.

TheSquealer 02-08-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724409)
LOL we need these today more than ever.

I dont get all the huff about "body shaming". If you are fat you should be shamed. Especially women. When i see an overweight woman i imagine a stanky vagina and her buttering her fat fold.

I will walk down the ice cream isle just to give fat people bad looks.

It was the "shaming" that kept assholes from being assholes. It was the calling someone stupid that taught them to regulate their behavior. It was telling the kid he's not michael jordan that made him work harder or find a more appropriate sport. it was the dodgeball that shoved frail pussies to science and art while the alpha males ruled the pack. Now the lunatics have whined and bitched their way into running the asylum.

TheSquealer 02-08-2016 02:22 PM

And you've inspired me. I'm putting exhaust stacks and a lift kit on my lexus.

kane 02-08-2016 03:37 PM

I can assure you shaming will do little or nothing. As someone who struggled with weight for much of my life and recently got it under control I can tell you this much: when you are very overweight it isn't because you had too much dessert or not enough exercise. It is because you have other issues and food is your solution to those problems.

You can tax things, shame people, put in scales or do whatever. People will find a way to get the food that makes them feel better. After all, cocaine is illegal, but there are plenty of people addicted to it and using it all the time.

Until a person can get a hold on what is making them overeat and seek comfort in food, they will always have problems.

420 02-08-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20724483)
I can assure you shaming will do little or nothing. As someone who struggled with weight for much of my life and recently got it under control I can tell you this much: when you are very overweight it isn't because you had too much dessert or not enough exercise. It is because you have other issues and food is your solution to those problems.

You can tax things, shame people, put in scales or do whatever. People will find a way to get the food that makes them feel better. After all, cocaine is illegal, but there are plenty of people addicted to it and using it all the time.

Until a person can get a hold on what is making them overeat and seek comfort in food, they will always have problems.

Thread was just for fun. I eat my feelings IRL. :( :eatmouse

TheSquealer 02-08-2016 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20724483)
I can assure you shaming will do little or nothing. As someone who struggled with weight for much of my life and recently got it under control I can tell you this much: when you are very overweight it isn't because you had too much dessert or not enough exercise. It is because you have other issues and food is your solution to those problems.

You can tax things, shame people, put in scales or do whatever. People will find a way to get the food that makes them feel better. After all, cocaine is illegal, but there are plenty of people addicted to it and using it all the time.

Until a person can get a hold on what is making them overeat and seek comfort in food, they will always have problems.

It's not different than addiction. xxxjay will be who and what he is until he dies or until he hits rock bottom and decides he needs to quit everything and get his life back on track.

What helps him to do that? Kissing his ass with all the "wow bro, thats a gtreat story, congrats..." bs? Or by an industry saying "look fuckwit, you're a junkie and it shows and your whole life has crumbled... why not take a pause, get help and get your shit together?"

The difference is one approach enables the behavior.
The other forces them to look at it and does the exact opposite of enabling.

My body fat is at about 23% right now. You know what happens when i get it down to 15%? I decide that I want to and that its more important than eating all the shitty food i love to eat that makes me feel good. Shitty food feels good to all of us to eat. You don't need to be morbidly obese to understand that simple fact. However, at the end of the day, people do what they WANT to do... and the choice to stop is still a choice. I'm not saying that choice can't carrying varying degrees of difficulty for people, but its still a personal choice. Every bite is a choice.

What underpins the addiction is not relevant to the fact that at some point, you have to recognize the need to change and want to change. THAT IS WHEN you can start to think about the "why's" as you struggle with making the change. Telling a morbidly obese person "you're perfect the way you are" is not doing them any favors. In fact, it's hurting them. It's pushing them further and further away from change and into a life of debilitating health problems and a shorter life.

Also to your point, i'd say this. Addiction treatment, counseling/therapy etc no matter whether its treating drug addiction, eating issues, phobias etc has no higher success rate and is no more successful than those who just wake up and say "i'm done and i'm going to change". It's always a personal choice at the end of the day.

kane 02-08-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20724496)
It's not different than addiction. xxxjay will be who and what he is until he dies or until he hits rock bottom and decides he needs to quit everything and get his life back on track.

What helps him to do that? Kissing his ass with all the "wow bro, thats a gtreat story, congrats..." bs? Or by an industry saying "look fuckwit, you're a junkie and it shows and your whole life has crumbled... why not take a pause, get help and get your shit together?"

The difference is one approach enables the behavior.
The other forces them to look at it and does the exact opposite of enabling.

My body fat is at about 23% right now. You know what happens when i get it down to 15%? I decide that I want to and that its more important than eating all the shitty food i love to eat that makes me feel good. Shitty food feels good to all of us to eat. You don't need to be morbidly obese to understand that simple fact. However, at the end of the day, people do what they WANT to do... and the choice to stop is still a choice. I'm not saying that choice can't carrying varying degrees of difficulty for people, but its still a personal choice. Every bite is a choice.

What underpins the addiction is not relevant to the fact that at some point, you have to recognize the need to change and want to change. THAT IS WHEN you can start to think about the "why's" as you struggle with making the change. Telling a morbidly obese person "you're perfect the way you are" is not doing them any favors. In fact, it's hurting them. It's pushing them further and further away from change and into a life of debilitating health problems and a shorter life.

Also to your point, i'd say this. Addiction treatment, counseling/therapy etc no matter whether its treating drug addiction, eating issues, phobias etc has no higher success rate and is no more successful than those who just wake up and say "i'm done and i'm going to change". It's always a personal choice at the end of the day.

In the end it is a personal choice. How you finally make that choice can vary from person to person. For me going to therapy and working through my problems helped me immensely, but it may not work for someone else who can figure it out on their own. One of the things people have to learn is how to understand what triggers you and causes you to want to eat and then how to deal with that. It is really not much different than addiction.

I can say this from personal experience. Having someone I know and care about tell me they are worried about me and want me to lose weight and get healthier carries 100% more weight than a random stranger telling me I am fat and need to lose weight. When it comes from a random stranger you brush it off, forget about it and move on because they are meaningless to you.

Paul&John 02-08-2016 04:18 PM


NakedWomenTime 02-08-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724259)
What do u think?

I think you're on to something here.

Helix 02-08-2016 04:29 PM

Obamacare will do that. There will be penalties for risky behaviour/lifestyles.

pimpmaster9000 02-08-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724259)
Fat people in general. Especially fat women disgust me.

We all know fat people put a drain on the health system. So technically shouldnt they be charged more for consuming more?

I saw a fat woman buying 3 kinds of ice cream at the checkout and i almost puked. If her bill was 5x the amount maybe the beached whale would think twice. Or flubber back into the ocean away from society where i wouldnt have to deal with her appearence.

What do u think?

this is actually a great idea...but healthy food would be discounted, and fatty shit would be like 5x more expensive...heath tax based on bf%...sliding prices...

the fatter shit you are, the less salads would cost but the low fat salad dressing is 2x more expensive and the regular fatty one should be 10x more expensive...so not only based on bf% of fat shit but also based on fat content of produce...

its a winning idea...

MetaMan 02-08-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20724610)
this is actually a great idea...but healthy food would be discounted, and fatty shit would be like 5x more expensive...heath tax based on bf%...sliding prices...

the fatter shit you are, the less salads would cost but the low fat salad dressing is 2x more expensive and the regular fatty one should be 10x more expensive...so not only based on bf% of fat shit but also based on fat content of produce...

its a winning idea...

Im only interested in shaming fat people. If normal people who are in shape want to buy junk food im ok with it.

I want to basically create segregation in grocery stores based on weight. And maybe force black people to shop in separate stores.

dyna mo 02-08-2016 07:46 PM

What about something like they have at amusement park rides -you must be this tall to ride this ride- but instead it will be you must be able to pass through this width to enter this store?

Would that work?

420 02-08-2016 07:49 PM

Yes, smaller entrances, brilliant. And whites only entrances so yucky mexicans don't touch the produce before I do.

dyna mo 02-08-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20724732)
Yes, smaller entrances, brilliant. And whites only entrances so yucky mexicans don't touch the produce before I do.

Mexicans have their own stores even!

MiamiBoyz 02-08-2016 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724259)
Fat people in general. Especially fat women disgust me.

We all know fat people put a drain on the health system. So technically shouldnt they be charged more for consuming more?

I saw a fat woman buying 3 kinds of ice cream at the checkout and i almost puked. If her bill was 5x the amount maybe the beached whale would think twice. Or flubber back into the ocean away from society where i wouldnt have to deal with her appearence.

What do u think?

Fat people should be killed and made into dog food.

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420 02-08-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20724738)
Mexicans have their own stores even!

But the stores already have walls mr trump.

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beerptrol 02-08-2016 09:57 PM

If they wanted to curb obesity they would make fast food way more expensive then healthy food. But like everything else, to many companies make their living off of unhealthy food

davidclickpapa 02-09-2016 02:32 AM

as a fat guy, this is actually not a bad idea. in return, healthy food (REAL healthy, not the bio-eco-organic BS) should be way cheaper.

pimpmaster9000 02-09-2016 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724727)
Im only interested in shaming fat people. If normal people who are in shape want to buy junk food im ok with it.

I want to basically create segregation in grocery stores based on weight. And maybe force black people to shop in separate stores.

but it would create a black market....skinny people would buy fat shit salad dressing and sell it to fat people :disgust

fat people would buy skinny things like eggs and make mayo...

also how would you regulate fat shits ordering pizza?...the delivery boy would need to be monitored...

but its a winning idea nevertheless...I can envision chubby americans in despair :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mopek1 02-09-2016 05:18 AM

Not sure why we're picking on fat people here?

Everyone has a weakness, it's just expressed differently.

I 2nd Kane's reply above.

CaptainHowdy 02-09-2016 06:30 AM

I'm going for a walk ...

_Richard_ 02-09-2016 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20724272)
We are starting a 'Sugar Tax' in the UK

lol that didn't take long.

Piper Blush 02-09-2016 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20724387)
Agreed they are basically ripping you off to pay for the extra yardage.

Technically fuel should also cost more for fat people. They burn more and cause extra stress on the car.

I have an electric car, Chevy Volt. I once gave a ride to a close to 400 under pounds person. The battery literally drained itself in no time. Plus the car was having more trouble than when I pull the trailer with two motorbikes.

MetaMan 02-09-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by davidclickpapa (Post 20724916)
as a fat guy, this is actually not a bad idea. in return, healthy food (REAL healthy, not the bio-eco-organic BS) should be way cheaper.

You see im not really interested in this. I prefer to outright shame fat people by making it more expensive ACROSS THE BOARD. Fat people are the type to take "low fat salad dressing". And use the whole bottle. Trust me fatties wouldnt eat healthier anyway if the good stuff was cheaper. They already have that choice.

By charging them a TOTAL consumption tax becauase fatsos are already large and in charge we can punish them and invest that money in healthcare for slimmer better looking peolple.

Im also open to the fact if they lose weight the consumption tax can be lifted. Think of it as a goal. Hit em where it hurts.

LetterTwenty7 02-09-2016 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20724282)
Aren't they technically charged more for consuming more since they buy more?

You go, girl. :thumbsup

MetaMan 02-09-2016 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LetterTwenty7 (Post 20725127)
You go, girl. :thumbsup

Only a dumb ass would congratulate someone for consuming food at at alarming rate and transforming themselves into a small beached whale


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