muslims beaking off on TV
 

ABC interviewed a *middle class* muslim from Jordan who got his education in the US.
He said that after watching the US attack iraq, he could see himself terrorist attacking the US.

Looks like all the muslim apologists are wrong.:1orglaugh

Um.. aren't the muslim apologists the ones that said bombing Iraq would do nothing but bring us more terrorist attacks? meaning that the apologists were right?

ooch

Nope, I just find it funny when people fart.

I simply cannot sit still while people are beakin' off. :BangBang:

:ak47:

one of my uncle's use tell me pull my finger Jimmy, when I was a little kid. God I'd forgoten that. My mother would get so pissed at him. :1orglaugh

Um, no. the muslim apologists are the ones telling us most muslims are peaceful.
The dopey war protesters say bombing Iraq would do nothing but bring us more terrorist attacks.
I say what it will do is expose our enemies.:1orglaugh

Thats funny
So i Guess the Kuwaiti Muslims who were going into the Mosque and called Saddam a gangster and said he was NOT a Muslim are wrong?

actually more accurately, arab apologists are the one's who justify terrorism. for example, people who can "empathize" with Palestinians who kill Israeli civilians.

You can't understand why an oppressed people would want to kill their oppressors?

You can't "empathize" with the Palestinians?

It will also make regimes in other countries work MUCH harder at rooting out terrorists operating on their soil.

yeah, I guess you empathize for murderers who go to prison too.
but that *would* be typical of you.:1orglaugh

That's funny, the amount of kuwaiti terrorists out wieghs the handful who called saddam a gangster.:1orglaugh

I can empathize with palestinians who have been used as a pawn in middle eastern politics by the entire Muslim world. But, I can't empathize with an individual who makes the conscious decision to kill women and children.

Sorry Joe.

I thought you were an independent thinker, but you obviously just buy into the standard left-wing anti-Jewish / anti-American line of thinking.

Are you willing to keep an open mind? I read your radical.org stuff. Can I give you something to read?

but of course......murderers aren't criminals; they are victims of a complacent society.

Sure.

Hungary's crowd has tricked the us into letting them kill the kurds in the north, then iran is gonna join the war and then the us can go back home and use tactical nukes or neutron bombs on the whole area, probably neutron bombs would be good, 'cause the oil supply system will all be intact

anti-semitism isn't a left wing trait, it's a conservative trait.

I think in all the confusion, you're forgetting whose team you're on. Kinda like Clarence Thomas.

The kuran says: "You shall slaughter the infidel pigs..."
enough said...

the bible says 'it is better to cast your seed upon the ground than to sire a dav555attentiondeficitdisorder'

but did your daddy listen??

:zzwhip

Have you hugged an iman today?

You are an idiot bar none.

Observe what I command you this day. Behold, I am driving out from before you the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite. Take heed to yourself, lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land where you are going, lest it be a snare in your midst. But you shall destroy their altars, break their sacred pillars, and cut down their wooden images (For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.)

The Torah, Exodus Chapter 34 verses 11-14

Just one of many instances where the blood thirsty God of the Israelites demands genocide.

Do Jews and Muslims worship the same God? I forget.

The same scripture you use to condemn Islam is the same scripture that can be used against Jews. Sweet mother of Christ you are a dumbfuck.

But you are French are you not?

The Quran on the Torah

"Say, O people of the Book, you are nought until you uphold the Torah and Gospel, and what God sent down to you" (Sura al-Ma'ida 5:71).


"Let the People of the Gospel judge as to what God has sent down. They that withhold judgement therein are impious" (Sura al-Ma'ida 5:50).

"We have sent down the Torah, a guide and a light; the prophets judge thereby, as do the rabbis and priests, with what they preserved of God's book. Of this they are witnesses" (Sura al-Ma'ida 5:47).

What now homo?

Whats the difference between Judaism and Islam? Fulfillment of prophecy. Period.

Not anymore. When my dad grew up, anti-semitism was definitely a right-wing trait, but that all changed with Reagan. Now, the most "prolific" left-wingers are incredibly anti-Israel/anti-Semitic.

Unfortunately, my most of my Jewish brothers and sisters are in denial.

You are nothing but a vermine...
Shut up you eminem looking piece of white trash...

no, the fringe left wingers are pro-palestinian, not necessarily anti semetic, and the bulk of left wingers have a great affinity for jews. Nobody has forgotten the facists of 1940 except the rockhead conservatives you're fighting for now, who are giving an uncanny impression of a volunteer Brownshirt corps.

when the american kristalnacht comes, who are you gonna run to? The Bushes and their ilk? HA! they'll be the ones breaking the windows my friend...

I win.

again, goodnight dumbass.

you have nothing to contibute to this conversation. Go pull the legs off some houseflys or something.

I see you've mastered the art of generalizations & absolutes ;)

:thumbsup



however, please don't consider me an 'apologist'

I'd off a terrorist as fast as the next red blooded american would, I just happen to have some experiences that tell me not "all" muslims feel that way by any means, not even the majority...but rather a loud, and agreeably, scary % of them....but not nearly a majority or 'all'

dude is it 04 yet so we can vote those fuckers out already?


it can't come soon enough :/

:thumbsup :thumbsup

sup thejimmy, you still in the same place?

come visit me on Setgo, we got it rocking again :winkwink:

You might find this professor interesting. He's very left-wing, but he saw the light on Israel.

Anti-Semitism, Misinformation and the Whitewashing of Palestinian Leadership
http://emperors-clothes.com/gilwhite/Israel.htm

A Short History of US Policy in the Middle East
(you'll love this....it's very anti-American)
http://www.psych.upenn.edu/~fjgil/usfpolicy.htm

Heya Diggity,


I'll be more of a regular there shortly :) I just saw the new look, it's nice man...

just got done yackin with Anthony for a bit... good score for the team man, great dude, he's gonna do wonders for ya, I know it..



and naa, we moved back to the desert for the next 3 years while the woman finishes up some stuff, we were a little "TOO" close to her fam last time for her to finish up her stuff....we'll be back that direction most likely in a few years though...


:thumbsup

http://www.google.com/groups?q=forma... aw.ca&rnum=1

As with all things political and international, the formation of Israel
was accompanied by a great deal of intrigue, propaganda, and general
subterfuge. As with all things political and international, we now tend
to look back on it with a very simplistic explanation in mind. In the
case of Israel, people tend to either see a long-awaited homeland for
the persecuted Jews or a conspiracy with more than a few religious
overtones.


On the other hand, we can see that the situation in Israel *today*
certainly involves a great deal of injustice. The most contentious
issues, as far as I can tell, mostly do have religious implications. The
settlers, for example, appear to believe that their actions are
justified because "God" gave them the land. In return, there appears to
be a large number of Muslim fanatics who respond to this with ludicrous
conspiracy theories about Satan controlling the Jews controlling America
persecuting "God's" chosen people. From this, it is concluded that
blowing up busses full of commuters or flying planes into buildings are
good and moral things to do.
----------------

nobody is innocent in Israel. The jews deserved a homeland after the Holocaust. The palestinians were displaced and continue to be shoved out.

If we had just given Florida to the jews, none of this would have happened but your conservative pals woudn't want a bunch of 'Christ Killers' on our soil.

Well, let's put it that way.
If I was conversing with intelligent people, I may try to have an educated conversation with them.
But when one has labret or dig420 in front of him; well; there is no need for intelligent arguments. You must be the dumbest mother fuckers I have ever come upon.
You both think you are so educated and smart, well, wake up and smell the roses. You are both 2 dumb dog fuckers.
When I deal with chimpanzees, I do exactly as I do with you, I talk chimps.
When I deal with intelligent people (not you obviously), then I can talk intelligently.
So, labret and dig420: Go Fuck Yourselves and pray for your buddy saddam

suck my dick.
go fuck yourself in the ass.
you're an idiot.
you smell.

am I down on a level you can understand, or do I have to go lower?

and when you say something like 'you jest think yer soooo smart, don't yew?' you might as well be wearing a sign that says 'I M STOOPID'.

do they wear shoes where you live?

This is a useless argument because we're both right.

Historically, a large percentage of Jews have been liberal. This is starting to change, but still something like 80% of Jews are democrats.


Almost the entire left is anti-Israel. That's a fact. Maybe not in LA, but in the rest of the world.

On the left, you have:

Compassionate Liberals: Many of whom are Jewish. They tend to oppose Israel because they mistakenly think of Israel as having been settled exclusively by European Jews, so they think it's colonialism. They don't realize how much of Israel is Mizrahi or Sephardic Jews who are racially indecipherable from arabs and escaped persecution or were ethnically cleansed.

Then, you have your anti-globalization, anti-western, near communist leftists, who believe Jews control all the global financial system, political system, etc. They hate Jews period. One would like to think they comprise a small minority, but unfortunately they're quite large.

dav555add hit me up on ICQ would you?

if you think of political leanings as a circle, the people who believe this are so far out that they're neither liberal nor conservative, although you CANNOT deny that this is a theory mainly propagated by racists, john birchers and people from Texas.

most leftists are pro-globalization, pro-western (except they want to distribute the knowledge and not force it down foreign throats)

in fact, now that I think about it, the Intelligentsia theories you're talking about now belong almost wholly to the far Right.

Dig, you're obviously an intelligent guy, but I don't think you have the whole story. Check out the links I provided Joe Sixpack


Anti-Semitism, Misinformation and the Whitewashing of Palestinian Leadership
http://emperors-clothes.com/gilwhite/Israel.htm

A Short History of US Policy in the Middle East
(you'll love this....it's very anti-American)
http://www.psych.upenn.edu/~fjgil/usfpolicy.htm


You'll enjoy the read.....comes from a lefty.

yippie Yeah Mother Fucker

you really got me there. You are a debater par excellance. I surrender.

dude, you're right...it is a circle. The John Birchers are paleocons. Most leftists are not pro-western/globalization. You're projecting. You may be pro-west/globalization, but that's not the status quo of the left today.

It's definitely a circle...your palecons like Buchanon are pro-labor, anti-globalization, and have a lot in common with the left. Then you have your neocons like Reagan, Horowitz, Wolfowitz, who are former liberals, but became pro-Israel right-wingers.

You are so pathetic...
You think you're such a big shot, but you're nothing but a dumb ass porn peddler.

learning everything there is to know about the Israeli-Arab situation would take a lifetime and I have a business to run. I used to take comfort in the fact that the leaders of my nation were responsible people far more intelligent and informed than I who could come up with a fair and reasonable solution given enough time.

Then Bush got elected. Now I'll consider myself lucky if we avoid WWIII until 2004.

are you french?

yeah that's right, I'm MR. BEEG SHOT pushing you around and beating you up with my big brain, but YOU'LL SHOW ME I bet! One of these days... POW! Straight to the moon!

I'm Irish. We don't surrender, we get drunk and throw bombs.

just check out the links...

I'm about to do some 420 so shortly I won't be able to make much sense.........but I'm interested in what you think....

where in LA do you live? I used to live in W. La

Sun Valley, but I'm moving to Santa Monica in July most likely... I'm just here for business, my REAL home is Northern Cali. With the hippies :1orglaugh