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mce 12-20-2015 08:29 PM

Google now indexing HTTPS by default
 
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ult-21362.html

Wake up call for those who haven't made the switch to https for their online properties.

epitome 12-20-2015 08:33 PM

I've been running HTTPS Everywhere extension for so long that I forgot the web had http.

$money$ 12-20-2015 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20674935)
I've been running HTTPS Everywhere extension for so long that I forgot the web had http.

:2 cents::2 cents:

MakeMeGrrrrowl 12-20-2015 08:50 PM

So then they just want you to have a secure domain and that takes precedence?

I did that this year!!! So yeahhhhh! Woo hoo.

Now I just gotta get with the times and be mobile ready.

clickity click 12-21-2015 02:23 AM

Is this recommended for all websites or just those with a database / those that have a members area etc.
For example if I have a 20 page, static HTML info page would that need to be https?

Ferus 12-21-2015 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675066)
Is this recommended for all websites or just those with a database / those that have a members area etc.
For example if I have a 20 page, static HTML info page would that need to be https?

If it makes you more than $200 a year and you consider it a valuable domain you want to grow the value of? then yes

clickity click 12-21-2015 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 20675068)
If it makes you more than $200 a year and you consider it a valuable domain you want to grow the value of? then yes

Well it's an info site so it doesn't make me anything.
I'm not bothered about growing the value of it either.

What I do want though is it to remain and improve in the Google rankings. It currently does well, I wish for that to continue.

I am guessing Google want to protect users search queries rather that protecting supplied credentials to a DB.
That's why they are moving to HTTPS. Therefore I will be making the switch although I don't like not being able to snoop on my visitors search queries in Statcounter.

clickity click 12-21-2015 02:38 AM

Also, if you Google "google https"

It looks like the top indexed sites such as

Are not using https

So, based on these results I am not so sure.

clickity click 12-21-2015 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675072)
Also, if you Google "google https"

It looks like the top indexed sites such as



Are not using https

So, based on these results I am not so sure.

Fucking stupid forum converting URL's to links. I just wanted to post the direct link so you could see that they are http, not https. Now you will need to mouseover.
I even tried putting in a quote and it still fucked it up.

xxxjay 12-21-2015 03:44 AM

Because it can be old little bit cost prohibitive, I would definitely do it on my "money sites"... If you had some feeders, I don't know that it would be worth the money

CPA-Rush 12-21-2015 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675074)
Fucking stupid forum converting URL's to links. I just wanted to post the direct link so you could see that they are http, not https. Now you will need to mouseover.
I even tried putting in a quote and it still fucked it up.

i want to be nice with u ..but please stop being fucking idiot !! what u was looking for ?

https sites ?? because u did google this term "google https" ??? those sites don't have this protocal how fucking google will hand it to u?


and to put urls , u do it like that .

Code:

http://qz.com/246441/what-is-https-and-why-does-google-like-it-so-much/

fuck:mad:

NatalieK 12-21-2015 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20675128)
i want to be nice with u ..but please stop being fucking idiot !! what u was looking for ?

https sites ?? because u did google this term "google https" ??? those sites don't have this protocal how fucking google will hand it to u?


and to put urls , u do it like that .

Code:

http://qz.com/246441/what-is-https-and-why-does-google-like-it-so-much/

fuck:mad:

ok, thanks for the link, now I understand what https is, how do you make your pages https please?

MakeMeGrrrrowl 12-21-2015 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20675227)
ok, thanks for the link, now I understand what https is, how do you make your pages https please?

You have to get an SSL certificate.

blackmonsters 12-21-2015 08:47 AM

Google's moves may be helping some people but I feel like the search results aren't as good as they used to be.

Seems like the more stuff they add or tweak the less I like the search results.

NatalieK 12-21-2015 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20675262)
You have to get an SSL certificate.

ahh ok, thanks :thumbsup

mce 12-21-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20675274)
Google's moves may be helping some people but I feel like the search results aren't as good as they used to be.

Seems like the more stuff they add or tweak the less I like the search results.

I think they may have reached the point of diminishing returns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

TheSenator 12-21-2015 02:43 PM

Does it even matter for adult sites?

clickity click 12-21-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20675262)
You have to get an SSL certificate.

So what's this https anywhere?

clickity click 12-21-2015 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20675128)
i want to be nice with u ..but please stop being fucking idiot !! what u was looking for ?

https sites ?? because u did google this term "google https" ??? those sites don't have this protocal how fucking google will hand it to u?


and to put urls , u do it like that .

Code:

http://qz.com/246441/what-is-https-and-why-does-google-like-it-so-much/

fuck:mad:

Why you mad bro?

You obviously didn't understand.

XSAXS 12-21-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 20675567)
Does it even matter for adult sites?

PornHub
Beeg
RedTube
YouPorn
Porn.com
XVideos
XNXX

None of them are using https. So I don't think it matters for porn (yet). I suppose it could theoretically give a little bump in the SERPs. But none of the above are relying on it to achieve their own rankings. :2 cents:

CPA-Rush 12-21-2015 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675571)
Why you mad bro?

You obviously didn't understand.

sorry, i'm not angry now .

what was your point ?

clickity click 12-21-2015 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20675605)
sorry, i'm not angry now .

what was your point ?

Give me a hug.

CPA-Rush 12-21-2015 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675747)
Give me a hug.

hug sent over secure https .:pimp

clickity click 12-21-2015 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20675752)
hug sent over secure https .:pimp

Hug received - (keywords unavailable)

MakeMeGrrrrowl 12-21-2015 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675570)
So what's this https anywhere?

I don't understand? Is it really possible you don't know what a secure certificate is? Or are you just kidding me?

If you go to facebook you will see it's https facebook . com not http it's green and has a lock on the browser.

That tells you the site is secure, encrypted, all that bullshit.

CPA-Rush 12-21-2015 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675757)
Hug received

nice very happy :) our message has been protected against middle man attacks.

clickity click 12-21-2015 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20675767)
nice very happy :) our messages has been protected against middle man attacks.

Yah, fuck them middlemen like MakeMeGrrrrowl.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 12-21-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20675767)
nice very happy :) our messages has been protected against middle man attacks.

Very freeking gay if you ask me.

clickity click 12-21-2015 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20675763)
I don't understand? Is it really possible you don't know what a secure certificate is? Or are you just kidding me?

If you go to facebook you will see it's https facebook . com not http it's green and has a lock on the browser.

That tells you the site is secure, encrypted, all that bullshit.

Au contraire MMG, I know exactly what an SSL is and I know exactly what HTTPS is.
As previously posted though I googled HTTPS GOOGLE and got a bunch of news sites, listed on Page #1 for the search term HTTPS GOOGLE.
None of those sites actually used HTTPS despite talking about security.

CPA-Rush 12-21-2015 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20675772)
Very freeking gay if you ask me.

..............

gnawledge 12-21-2015 09:28 PM

I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 12-21-2015 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20675774)
Au contraire MMG, I know exactly what an SSL is and I know exactly what HTTPS is.
As previously posted though I googled HTTPS GOOGLE and got a bunch of news sites, listed on Page #1 for the search term HTTPS GOOGLE.
None of those sites actually used HTTPS despite talking about security.

Maybe they haven't made the change yet. I just know my site is https, not for any other reason than I needed a secure site so if it's true, awesome, if it doesn't matter then awesome too.

The article was just written, give it time.

mce 12-22-2015 01:13 AM

I suspect there will be nastier surprises come 2016 c/o Google.

PBN's might be problematic....

xxxjay 12-22-2015 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 20675931)
I suspect there will be nastier surprises come 2016 c/o Google.

PBN's might be problematic....

PBN's are already done. I already know work around

mce 12-22-2015 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20675935)
PBN's are already done. I already know work around

You can get around a dropped domain filter?

xxxjay 12-22-2015 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 20675939)
You can get around a dropped domain filter?

I never did the dropped domain thing. I know that a lot of PBN guys are big on that. I saw it for what it was, it was an exploit that would work for only a limited period of time and them would be a big footprint issue later.

I was able to rank for "Charlie Sheen HIV" with the domain I'd only bought a few hours before. That was proved to me that in 2015 that expired domains aren't what they used to be

Denny 12-22-2015 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 20675871)
I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.

:2 cents::2 cents:

xxxjay 12-22-2015 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 20675946)
:2 cents::2 cents:

I thought about this a lot and this is my conclusion. Google is a publicly held company. It is the officers fiduciary responsibility to make that company grow every year. What Google can be taking in on search is basically maxed out. They aren't going to sell X% more adwords to satisfy investors.

Google is now primarily in the INFORMATION BUSINESS...
https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/

The big reason they want to move to the https encryption is because they will among the few people with the keys.

:2 cents:

GLMBV 12-22-2015 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 20675871)
I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.

Same here, we've read about this so we decided to test it and we switched a couple of domains from http to https and they definitely lost a lot of rankings in google..
Kinda looks like google is treating them like new sites. Hoping rankings will be restored but for now we say f*ck switching to https

freecartoonporn 12-22-2015 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 20675871)
I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLMBV (Post 20675968)
Same here, we've read about this so we decided to test it and we switched a couple of domains from http to https and they definitely lost a lot of rankings in google..
Kinda looks like google is treating them like new sites. Hoping rankings will be restored but for now we say f*ck switching to https

you guys forced https ?

3xmedia 12-22-2015 03:06 AM

yep, it can more harm than help in many cases... I mostly run niche tubes and porn blogs... not going to switch unless it's absolutely necessary.

GLMBV 12-22-2015 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20675977)
you guys forced https ?

Yes permanent redirect port 80 to https

PornSEO 12-22-2015 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 20674933)
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ult-21362.html

Wake up call for those who haven't made the switch to https for their online properties.

Yea... It's now official.

freecartoonporn 12-22-2015 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLMBV (Post 20676003)
Yes permanent redirect port 80 to https

then this is what caused traffic drop. if your ssl uses sni

Barry-xlovecam 12-22-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20675950)
I thought about this a lot and this is my conclusion. Google is a publicly held company. It is the officers fiduciary responsibility to make that company grow every year. What Google can be taking in on search is basically maxed out. They aren't going to sell X% more adwords to satisfy investors.

Google is now primarily in the INFORMATION BUSINESS...
https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/

The big reason they want to move to the https encryption is because they will among the few people with the keys.

:2 cents:

That's interesting only if it can take Google's own transactional data provided to you, (i.e.; the encrypted search strings with keywords from Google-Analytics , ) and then you could correlate the paths (transactional analysis) to your specific URI's.

Data Mining with nosql is old hat already AWS cloud has had this service for a few years now -- Google is just playing catch-up with some added value code availability.
https://cloud.google.com/datastore/
https://cloud.google.com/prediction/
https://cloud.google.com/s/results?q... ocs%2Fpython

In any event, this has nothing to do with the mantra for https.
  • OAuth, SSO and other sign-ins should be in https
  • ecommerce activities should be in https
  • in https ONLY the path and parameters are encrypted -- server addresses are in plain text

https does prevent DNS *spoofing in most cases*

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
check your (or your bank's) https^

mce 12-22-2015 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20675950)
I thought about this a lot and this is my conclusion. Google is a publicly held company. It is the officers fiduciary responsibility to make that company grow every year. What Google can be taking in on search is basically maxed out. They aren't going to sell X% more adwords to satisfy investors.

Google is now primarily in the INFORMATION BUSINESS...
https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/

The big reason they want to move to the https encryption is because they will among the few people with the keys.

:2 cents:

I think you may be on to something. GOOG has been under a lot of pressure from the evolution of FB. They need to take search to a totally different direction or they will become irrelevant in the raging battle for traffic and content consumption. So far, GOOG is showing signs of erosion against mobile apps and social traffic.

anexsia 12-22-2015 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 20675982)
yep, it can more harm than help in many cases... I mostly run niche tubes and porn blogs... not going to switch unless it's absolutely necessary.

That's because some people here are using HTTPS for all the wrong reasons and it's not going to magically make your website shoot up on Google. Just focus on making great websites and keeping your visitors happy.

xxxjay 12-23-2015 01:22 AM

Do you guys remember her Mobilegeddon from a new months ago? I haven't seen that much of a dramatic effect on the SERPS yet... I wouldn't be rushing out and buying HTTPS

mce 12-23-2015 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 20675871)
I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.

The game is definitely changing... quickly.

I suspect, based on noises Google and blackhat forums have been making, that something BIG is going to happen in 2016 in terms of algos.

incredibleworkethic 12-24-2015 02:10 AM

I'll let you guys know how this works out for me. I'm just doing this on one site.


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