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2MuchMark 10-02-2015 10:44 PM

So the Benghazi special committee was bullshit.
 
So the Benghazi special committee was bullshit.



Anyone surprised? Not me.

Thanks potential next speaker of the house republican Kevin McCarthy for letting the truth slip.

j3rkules 10-03-2015 03:29 AM

Apologies to Matt Damon...

crockett 10-03-2015 05:01 PM

anyone who thought it was anything but a waste of tax dollars for Republicans political agenda is a fool. It's same shit they did with Clinton during his entire presidency. The Kenneth Star investigatons wasted millions of tax payers dollars even before the Monica BJ scandal.

The simple fact is Republicans are not trying to "help" this country, they are only trying to win elections so they get fat paychecks from their political campaign donners and stay in jobs.

Republicans have been in majority congress now for almost 2 years and they still haven't done shit. They are still just fighting with themselves and blaming Obama for everything while whining non stop about Hillary..

They are a bunch of 12 year old kids..

L-Pink 10-03-2015 05:08 PM

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bronco67 10-03-2015 05:14 PM

Yeah...this is the fucking numbskull they want to hold the speakership, so they can walk all over him.



Just watch him talking stroke victim jibberish at the beginning of this video. These are the people who are in charge of our country. Sad.

Axeman 10-03-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20595804)
Yeah...this is the fucking numbskull they want to hold the speakership, so they can walk all over him.



Just watch him talking stroke victim jibberish at the beginning of this video. These are the people who are in charge of our country. Sad.

He is absolutely not who the conservatives want as Speaker. He's who the Democrats and RINO's want as speaker as he is a 90% democrat.

Rochard 10-03-2015 08:04 PM

I haven't been following this too closely, but I fail to understand what they are getting at - and what they claiming was done wrong. There was a terrorist attack, and we did not have advanced warning. We did have a quick reaction force that was some what local, but they wouldn't have gotten there in time to change anything, and something like that is used as a last resort - it is effectively invading another country.

It seems like the CIA was involved and their facility was attacked, but this changes nothing about anything. The CIA operates in a lot of countries, to date it seems like the CIA has done nothing wrong, broken no laws, and the CIA has always used the State Department for cover.

There might have been some spin after the event, but that is what our government does when the CIA is involved. Always.

There is no evidence of any wrong doing by anyone.

This is just a waste of time and a waste of money in an attempt to make Hillary look bad. I am not fond of Hillary, but this is politics at it's worse.

kane 10-03-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20595876)
I haven't been following this too closely, but I fail to understand what they are getting at - and what they claiming was done wrong. There was a terrorist attack, and we did not have advanced warning. We did have a quick reaction force that was some what local, but they wouldn't have gotten there in time to change anything, and something like that is used as a last resort - it is effectively invading another country.

It seems like the CIA was involved and their facility was attacked, but this changes nothing about anything. The CIA operates in a lot of countries, to date it seems like the CIA has done nothing wrong, broken no laws, and the CIA has always used the State Department for cover.

There might have been some spin after the event, but that is what our government does when the CIA is involved. Always.

There is no evidence of any wrong doing by anyone.

This is just a waste of time and a waste of money in an attempt to make Hillary look bad. I am not fond of Hillary, but this is politics at it's worse.

The republicans will argue that there were several requests made to Clinton's office to increase security in Benghazi and Clinton denied them all. After the attacks the first story was that they were provoked by a video that had been released and the attackers were angry about the video. In reality it appears to have been an organized Al Qaeda attacks. Republicans will try to make it look like Clinton (and to a lesser degree Obama) tried to cover this up as a terrorist attack because it will make them look bad.

The reality is that there was likely spotty intelligence, a mistake was made by not sending more security and an attack happened taking American lives. No grand conspiracy, no big cover-up. Since Clinton is the front runner for the democrats the republicans will do anything they have to in order discredit her and hurt her chances (and the same would be happening if the parties were reversed). I bet if Clinton had just retired and was living a quiet life right now we wouldn't be hearing anything of it.

Best-In-BC 10-03-2015 10:12 PM

Gotta stay away from any party sporting there bs religion, anyone who believes that shit is bound to believe anything you tell them with strength of words.

RandyRandy 10-04-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20595806)
He is absolutely not who the conservatives want as Speaker. He's who the Democrats and RINO's want as speaker as he is a 90% democrat.

There's a new Speaker in the US? Didn't know that. I only have tolerance to follow one country's fucked up government at a time these days.

Axeman 10-04-2015 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 20595988)
There's a new Speaker in the US? Didn't know that. I only have tolerance to follow one country's fucked up government at a time these days.

The Conservatives were about to oust Boehner from the Speakership, so he resigned effective Oct 30th. So far McCarthy and Webster are running for the new Speaker.

2MuchMark 10-04-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20595992)
The Conservatives were about to oust Boehner from the Speakership, so he resigned effective Oct 30th. So far McCarthy and Webster are running for the new Speaker.

Ho wo do you know they were going to kick him out? I didn't know that. I know the Tea Party hates him because Boehner is smarter than the typical tea party guy, but since he constantly defied Obama by not letting bills come up for a vote, I thought it was a republican darling, no?

SuckOnThis 10-04-2015 10:26 AM

Nobody on this planet has been investigated more than the Clintons yet all the dumbfucks have came up with in 20 years is a damn blowjob.

Matter of fact this is the 8th Benghazi investigation on Hillary and and has now set the record as the longest Congressional investigation in history, longer than the Watergate investigation, the JFK assassination, 9/11, etc. Republicans can't stand democracy, no two ways about it.

dyna mo 10-04-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20596181)
Nobody on this planet has been investigated more than the Clintons yet all the dumbfucks have came up with in 20 years is a damn blowjob.

Matter of fact this is the 8th Benghazi investigation on Hillary and and has now set the record as the longest Congressional investigation in history, longer than the Watergate investigation, the JFK assassination, 9/11, etc. Republicans can't stand democracy, no two ways about it.

false, according to politifact.

Clinton campaign: Benghazi probe is Congress' longest investigation ever | PolitiFact

Rochard 10-04-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20595884)
The republicans will argue that there were several requests made to Clinton's office to increase security in Benghazi and Clinton denied them all. After the attacks the first story was that they were provoked by a video that had been released and the attackers were angry about the video. In reality it appears to have been an organized Al Qaeda attacks. Republicans will try to make it look like Clinton (and to a lesser degree Obama) tried to cover this up as a terrorist attack because it will make them look bad.

The reality is that there was likely spotty intelligence, a mistake was made by not sending more security and an attack happened taking American lives. No grand conspiracy, no big cover-up. Since Clinton is the front runner for the democrats the republicans will do anything they have to in order discredit her and hurt her chances (and the same would be happening if the parties were reversed). I bet if Clinton had just retired and was living a quiet life right now we wouldn't be hearing anything of it.

So requests were made to the Clinton's office to increase security in Benghazi. On the surface, that sounds horrible but.... How many locations does the State Department maintain? Currently there are 196 countries, and it's safe to assume that we have multiple locations in most countries. How many of these locations recommended security increases - One? Ten? One hundred? All of them?

If I understand correctly, it's not the State Department itself that is in charge of security for embassies. In fact, it seems these issues are controlled by Congress; It's part of funding budgets. Seems the Republicans cut the budget for the State Department:

For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department?s Worldwide Security Protection program ? well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration?s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration?s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans? proposed cuts to her department would be ?detrimental to America?s national security? ? a charge Republicans rejected.

(news link)

So we have Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying (then) cuts to her department hurt security at such locations while the Republicans rejected this idea, and when the attack happened the blamed it on her after they failed to fund security?

I don't like Hillary and I do not want her to be our next president. But this is nothing more than pointing fingers, trying to assign blame, and making a presidential candidate look bad - and they are spending our tax dollars in the process and wasting a lot of time where our elected government officials could have done something good.

At what point in time do our elected officials do their jobs?

kane 10-04-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20596206)
So requests were made to the Clinton's office to increase security in Benghazi. On the surface, that sounds horrible but.... How many locations does the State Department maintain? Currently there are 196 countries, and it's safe to assume that we have multiple locations in most countries. How many of these locations recommended security increases - One? Ten? One hundred? All of them?

If I understand correctly, it's not the State Department itself that is in charge of security for embassies. In fact, it seems these issues are controlled by Congress; It's part of funding budgets. Seems the Republicans cut the budget for the State Department:

For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department?s Worldwide Security Protection program ? well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration?s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration?s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans? proposed cuts to her department would be ?detrimental to America?s national security? ? a charge Republicans rejected.

(news link)

So we have Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying (then) cuts to her department hurt security at such locations while the Republicans rejected this idea, and when the attack happened the blamed it on her after they failed to fund security?

I don't like Hillary and I do not want her to be our next president. But this is nothing more than pointing fingers, trying to assign blame, and making a presidential candidate look bad - and they are spending our tax dollars in the process and wasting a lot of time where our elected government officials could have done something good.

At what point in time do our elected officials do their jobs?

I agree. I would love to see how many requests for more security they get every year and how many are turned down vs. approved. In this case it was turned down and bad things happened and now the republicans are trying to make it seem like it was some grand conspiracy.

Robbie 10-04-2015 11:54 AM

I think what bothered people the most was the bullshit story that Obama put out after it happened. The whole "it was caused by a YouTube video" and the subsequent repeating of that lie by Obama and Clinton and all the administration.

When you see the govt. blatantly lying about something it means there is smoke. And when there is smoke...there is sometimes fire.

Clinton does this kind of thing to herself by always trying to be so secretive and appearing to be covering up something.

Remember...it wasn't Watergate that took Nixon down. It was the cover up.

JuicyBunny 10-04-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20596221)
I think what bothered people the most was the bullshit story that Obama put out after it happened. The whole "it was caused by a YouTube video" and the subsequent repeating of that lie by Obama and Clinton and all the administration.

When you see the govt. blatantly lying about something it means there is smoke. And when there is smoke...there is sometimes fire.

Clinton does this kind of thing to herself by always trying to be so secretive and appearing to be covering up something.

Remember...it wasn't Watergate that took Nixon down. It was the cover up.

You see the light but problem is US is just as fucked as the EU but Americans are not bright enough to get that...yet.

Axeman 10-04-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20596158)
Ho wo do you know they were going to kick him out? I didn't know that. I know the Tea Party hates him because Boehner is smarter than the typical tea party guy, but since he constantly defied Obama by not letting bills come up for a vote, I thought it was a republican darling, no?

Speaker John Boehner Might Need Democrats to Save His Job - The Atlantic

Most republican voters wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. He's a spineless RINO.

crockett 10-05-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20596394)
Speaker John Boehner Might Need Democrats to Save His Job - The Atlantic


Most republican voters wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. He's a spineless RINO.


Most Republican voters today would call Regan a spineless liberal. If he ran today he wouldn't stand a change because the right wing today is far past the extreme of his times.

Rochard 10-05-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20596221)
I think what bothered people the most was the bullshit story that Obama put out after it happened. The whole "it was caused by a YouTube video" and the subsequent repeating of that lie by Obama and Clinton and all the administration.

You are right of course. Our government should have come out with the truth - Instead of saying "this was a terrorist attack over a video" they should have come out and said "this was a pre-planned military strike on a CIA location". Much better that way huh.

Our government makes sausages. Everyone likes eating sausages, but no one really likes to see how they are made.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20596221)
When you see the govt. blatantly lying about something it means there is smoke. And when there is smoke...there is sometimes fire.

And years later there is still no fire. NOTHING at all was done wrong. Yet we are STILL investigating it.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20596221)
Clinton does this kind of thing to herself by always trying to be so secretive and appearing to be covering up something.

Says you and most of the Republican party. Right now they are harping on her email, which seems to have been more secure than the White House email. They are trying to make it out so that she lied, and that she is trying to hide something. The truth is really that the state department came and said "this is how we do email" and she said "no, I want to do it this way" - it's not like they had multiple meetings with attorneys to made decisions; This was handled by tech staff.

And while this seems to be abnormal for her to run her email through a private server, it seems this is not uncommon in Congress. If this is really an investigation to see if laws were broken, why aren't we looking into how all Congressmen handle their email? Let's start publishing and reading those.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20596221)
Remember...it wasn't Watergate that took Nixon down. It was the cover up.

Yet the Iran?Contra issue didn't take down Reagan....

Joshua G 10-05-2015 08:19 PM

funny. the obama administration spins an al qaeda attack on a US embassy that results in dead americans as not-terrorism. it was mad people incited by a video. :1orglaugh

if it wasnt partisans investigating this, who would be? obamas people? the liberal media? Lulz.

you democrats never fail to disappoint me, every day of my life.

:2 cents:

crockett 10-05-2015 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20597030)

Yet the Iran?Contra issue didn't take down Reagan....

Yea it's amazing.. The lack of consistency right wingers have.. Regan committed treason and had to get Ollie North to fall on the sword to save his ass..

Meanwhile both are now hero's of the Republican Party.. Yet they then make it out to be a big deal that Clinton lied about a BJ or Hillary had a private email server..

Watching right wingers whine and complain is like watching a 2 year old fall over and start crying because someone will give him attention..

kane 10-05-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20597377)
funny. the obama administration spins an al qaeda attack on a US embassy that results in dead americans as not-terrorism. it was mad people incited by a video. :1orglaugh

if it wasnt partisans investigating this, who would be? obamas people? the liberal media? Lulz.

you democrats never fail to disappoint me, every day of my life.

:2 cents:

It isn't that there was an investigation. An investigation is fine. At first everyone thought it was because of that video and as more information came out it became clear it was not. Then Obama and Clinton tried to hide the fact that they denied an increase of security because it made them look bad.

So having an investigation into what happened is perfectly fine and good. The republicans seem to be turning what looks like an honest mistake into a witch hunt and they are trying to turn this into something it is not.

I have a feeling if Clinton wasn't running for president none of this would be happening.


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