the Trump hotel in Washington being built by illegals..
 

At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary - The Washington Post

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Any Right Wing businessman standing for election has a problem with the immigration problem.

His voters hate migrants, his share holders love the cheap work force.

Happens everywhere.

It's because as usual the right wing is full of shit.. Every election cycle they bitch and moan about illegals, but are more than happy to keep on employing their illegal farm workers, construction crews and maids..

When they have the choice between hiring Americans and paying living wages or hiring illegals and paying pennies, they hire illegals everytime.

There is a word for it.. It's called hypocrites.. It seems Trump is the biggest hypocrite of them all, which is zero surprise..

I just think it's funny how people are saying he's a breath of fresh air.

He's just like any other politician: says one thing, does another.

Other than being loud and brash, he's the same as any other candidate running on the Republican ticket.

Just try getting a hotel built using whinny ass trannies and drag queens like Bruce Jenner! Shit...they would complain about "pms" all day or that they might break a nail.

Shit...let real men do the work as always!

The Donald is a hypocrite? OH NOOOOES!

So various contractors who won bids showed up with illegal workers. If anything it just underscores the problem he's talking about.

I can't stand Chinese imports yet I'm typing this on a computer made guess where.

Want to start a real storm for the guy. Take a look at his project in North Baja California where he stole millions of dollars and there is nothing anyone can do.

You have a point here but it's not what you think it is. Trade Union or Prevailing Wage contractors do not commonly use illegal laborers ... Low ball bidders use illegals :2 cents:

You want ''cheap'' you get wetback labor and 'Made in China' electronics.

The problem in America is that we are competitive in IT technology but not the hardware. America is competitive in services and retail trade but not in manufacturing low value items. American built aircraft, production machinery and construction machinery are competitive world-wide. But low value items or labor intensive tasks are best performed by low wage workers here or imported from abroad now.

Adapt or you will get an EBT card and an Obama Phone :2 cents:

what idiot would pay double for same work? :error

I had a friend who needed some roofing on his house done, he got some quotes, some for $10k from some laborers that barely knew a word of English, some for $20k from an American company.... and some in between... he chose the American company for $20k...

next day, bunch of Mexicans showed up to do the work anyway... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


around here that's how that biz works, jobs get sold around and outsourced, and no matter what company you hire, immigrant workers end up doing the work anyway...

As long as the word "illegal" isn't in front of immigrant there is nothing wrong with hard working employees from Mexico.

I was a licensed contractor for 13 years and I have seen it all.

You get what you pay for when it's a fair price :2 cents:

I have worked union, prevailing wage and privet developer and builder contracts.

Let me tell you something -- you don't want clowns falling off your roof then suing you. Construction workers need to follow safety protocols on jobs. I have seen plenty of scabs and illegal construction crews do some real dumb shit and have seen a few union guys that were unsupervised fuckups.

I rarely use the lowest bidder as usually his workmansip is good enough -- collect check -- gone :2 cents:

Lets clarify - they were illegals, but now obtained legal status?
How is Trump supposed to check if they were illegals at some point if the now provides him with legal papers?

The same middle men who break the law using illegals have no problem breaking the law on prevailing wage.

Not really, contractors are responsible for hiring employees. Imagine if Trump would take the time of his day and go inspect contractors' employees papers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh And do that with many contractors he hires :1orglaugh

Yet illegal is in front of the word immigrant and they are building Trumps hotel. You can try to wish it away by blaming contractors, but Trump owns the building, Trump hired the contractors. Trump could have made sure there were no illegals by going with a contractor which didn't hire them.. :2 cents:

This is straight up 1000% Trump being a massive slack jaw hypocrite. Now just put this in perspective of him being president..

I didn't say there was... I don't have any problem with it, they do something that normally would cost $20k for $10k, why would anyone complain?

I was just pointing out fallacy of hiring an american company, who one would think would hire well paid 100% legit labor, but they don't...

and I'm not even sure legal/illegal in this case makes much difference... how is illegal guy any different in this situation? it's not like he works any less hard, or it's not like he pays any fewer taxes... the "legal" guy is paid under the table too, so he pays no taxes either, but also probably pretends he is unemployed to leech some government benefits...

Yes. Trump personally interviews and hires electricians, welders, truck drivers, labored brick layers and landscapers for every construction project because he has nothing better to do

I love these glimpses into the world of an idiot.

Son, you are clueless on how things work. Since you don't have a friend who can whisper in your ear and explain how you're embarrassing yourself, I'll do it.

Some were illegals whom gained legal status some were still illegals. Trump is supposed to pick a contractor whom doesn't hire illegals, end of story, no excuses.. As Truman said.. the Buck Stops Here, he owns the building, he hand picked the contractor. This was something he was directly involved with and not just some deal where people paid to use his name.. He is the head honcho on this and he allowed illegals to be used to save a few bucks..

Keep on making excuses.. You boy is a proven hypocrite..

you're still voting hillary so what the fuck difference does it make to you. not one fucking iota. just another opportunity for liberal finger-pointing.

First off I certainly will not vote for Hillary.. I've never liked her and I've stated that position many times on this very board..


Second.. Just say the words Dyna mo.. "illegals are building Trumps hotel, just like they built several other of his hotels".

Trump has used this same contractor on my of his properties. Not only is the company using illegals they have an really bad safety record. On the Trump SoHo building which they also built for him an "immigrant" worker was decapitated and several others were seriously injured. They were fined by OSHA and investigators stated the job site safety conditions were below average and put a stop order in place for 7 months on the upper floors..

As a resualt Bank Of America pulled their loan funding on the project.. It's worth noting Trump was also sued by buyers of 10 of the condos because they were lied to.. They won their lawsuit..

Trump is a shady fuck and he uses illegals to build his hotels..

Not surprised. :2 cents:

hillary = dem. you're voting for whomever the dems put up. you don't care about issues. you don't care about the right guy for the job, you don't care about illegals, you don't care about hotels.

your mind is made up and this is just nothing more than more liberal finger-pointing.

the funny part is how you libs point your finger at Trump and exclaim joke then turn right around and take him seriously enough to start threads etc, i.e., hypocritical.

you're mind is made up and always has been.

It's quite fun to watch all the conservibros here GFY whom have been lashing out at everyone over Trumps comments as it was a liberal agenda from the media.. (Their favorite goto excuse)

Meanwhile, I show them Trump is a hypocrite whom uses Illegals for labor and they can't make excuses fast enough.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaug


Sorry guys but you can't excuse this one away and blame liberals and the media...

yep. he is entertaining sideshow in a boring primary so far & once the press start laying into him on his business, its game over. Just enjoy the ride while the goings good.

:)

Keep trying to distract as I keep showing you your guy is a fucking hypocrite..

keep your head in the sand re: reality because i've mentioned to you specifically and several times that Trump is not my guy. In fact, i've stated that Jim Webb is my guy.

There's a very simple solution. fine the company employing them $100,000 per worker. If it's a company, fine the directors.

And if it's a company or individual with contractors, fine them as well.

crockett, i know you've been overwhelmed pointing your finger at Trump, so here's some infos on the Democrat presidential candidate, Jim Webb

About Jim | Jim Webb

Oh yes I've said those very words.. If Republicans really wanted to stop illegals from crossing the boarder and getting jobs, they wouldn't worry about walls.. They would go straight to the problem, that being people whom hire them..

Start fining companies for using illegals for very large amounts and it suddenly become unprofitable to hire illegals. It's a very simple problem to solve, but Republicans don't actually want to solve it, they just want to have a "issue" at election time to get guys like Dyna mo all riled up to vote Republican..

I know who Jim Webb is.. At this point I prefer Sanders over anyone..

Trump must be a real micro-manager if he is out hiring construction workers.

well, good, so now you also confirm you know Webb is my preferred candidate. so knock it off with the Trump is my guy comments.

"My boy"?

I think he's an idiot. Just as I think the frenzy about him is being constantly stirred by idiots.

I'm not like you where everything is "my team vs your team". That's how you see the world and others, not me. Unlike you, I don't think 1/2 the voting population are idiots, crazy and brainwashed. My thinking just isn't that simple.

It's a hotel built by rapists!

Excuses.. From baddog, whom would of ever thought..

just think of all the people they have murdered, raped and stolen from while they built Trumps building..

fixated on a month old sound bite.

lolz.

He claims he's about jobs and the military.. How can he be about American jobs when he hires illegals? Is he going to have the Chinese make our military weapons like they make his shitty ties?

Also he still thinks Obama isn't a U.S. Citizen... Seriously you guys really know how to pick a winner..

no one has picked Trump. on his own accord, he threw his hat in the ring.

It seems many of our GFY conservibros have picked Trump.. That of course isn't saying much, as the same people thought McComplain and Palin would win hands down and were suprised when this guy didn't win..

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The problem is consertives are easily lied too.. They don't ask tough questions of their picks and just drool over sound bites that are pro America anti liberal.. They don't use their brains to look at prior actions, but rather only what is spoon fed to them..

This is why Republicans always end up with the shitty candidates they deserve.

yes, gullibility can be defined by political association. so then crockett can then claim democrats are not easily lied to.


right.

Liberals are much more critical of their leaders. Hell the last mid term should show that. Liberals were not happy with what Democrats had done and as a resualt did not show up to the polls in support.. They didn't vote blindly in support of people they felt didn't do a good job.

Meanwhile, despite some of the worst approval ratings congress has ever had, Republicans and consertives showed up to blindly voted for their team.. Because team is all they know..

bullfuckingshit. you rag the shit outta me for criticizing BO, the fucking guy I voted for. so don't try and claim you allow people to critique your guy. you've even labeled me conservative for doing so.
so, yeah, no, not buying your logic.

Let's also ask the question, which no one has asked.. trump does a lot of business with China. All his shitty high priced products are made by Chinese factories and their low priced workers..

What happens if Trump became president and had to stand up to China on trade deals or their constant hacking of US business. The Chinese then have a way to make him cave to their wishes, because they can hurt his private business and use that against him..

Sorry but not only does Trump do and say a lot of stupid shit, but he brings along a lot of baggage which puts him in the position of having to decide what's better for his little business empire or what's better for the American people.

He is an absolute horrible choice..

No I troll all of you guys because you never stop complaining about every little thing Obama does, while not even batting an eye when Republucans do the same or worse..

Perfect example is Trump.. He says he's against illegals while using them on his job sites. Yet you guys can't make excuses fast enough for why it's ok..

Meanwhile if that were Obama or Hillary doing the same, you guys would be going apeshit..

Yet another example was Romneycare.. Not a Republucan I the house had a single thing to complain about Romenycare.. But soon as it's Obamacare then it's Hitler himself reincarnated..

could Trump add to BO foreign policy disasters?

Obama's Foreign Policy Has Left the World in a Mess - US News

How fucking stupid does one have to be to think that Trump is involved in the hiring process of every contractor involved with any project that may have his name on it?

Hmmm, let's see . . . Did RomneyCare force anything on people that lived outside of Massachusets? Did ObamaCare?

See the difference?

Idiot.