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Rochard 06-30-2015 04:01 PM

Coordinated attack against internet - cables cut
 
Check this out... A lot of people in my area woke up to no Internet and no TV. Turns out three fiber cables have been cut in what is being called a "coordinated attack".

Is this going to be a new kind of terrorist attack? Cut off Internet and TV?

Outage in Sacramento, Rocklin result of 'coordinated attack' | Sacramento News - KCRA Home

L-Pink 06-30-2015 04:08 PM

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DonJon69 06-30-2015 04:09 PM

It could be. I can think of a lot of similar things they can do that are so easy and it would affect 1000's of people.

crockett 06-30-2015 05:39 PM

Why does everything have to be labeled a "terrorist attack". As shitty as most cable internet providers or with their customer service.. It's likely just a really pissed off customer..

Honest-trafficker 06-30-2015 05:46 PM

It's probably an animal, like a beaver...

Barry-xlovecam 06-30-2015 05:56 PM

Interesting to see the outcome of this -- if they ever catch the ''vandals?'' What does ''cut'' mean exactly?

Maybe, someone was less than pleased with their broadband customer support -- paybacks are a bitch.

dyna mo 06-30-2015 06:08 PM

Be careful! Hunker down inside and watch some cable, surf the web.

baddog 06-30-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20512235)
Why does everything have to be labeled a "terrorist attack". As shitty as most cable internet providers or with their customer service.. It's likely just a really pissed off customer..

Yeah, because accessing cables like that is so easy; anyone can do it. It's not crockett science, right?

crockett 06-30-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20512301)
Yeah, because accessing cables like that is so easy; anyone can do it. It's not crockett science, right?

It's not that hard to access the cables if you know where to look.. But hey I'm sure it wasn't a guy whom was dressed up in a biker coustume so rest easy big buddy. Don't fall over at the red light..

EliteWebmaster 06-30-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Honest-trafficker (Post 20512244)
It's probably an animal, like a beaver...

I don't think he lives in Canada Lol

baddog 06-30-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20512304)
It's not that hard to access the cables if you know where to look.. But hey I'm sure it wasn't a guy whom was dressed up in a biker coustume so rest easy big buddy. Don't fall over at the red light..

Oh, why not show us how easy it is to find the maps and associated prints that are required to systematically cut the right cables. Yeah, if it was an inside job it could be done, but not solo and certainly not just an upset customer.

You really work at resetting that personal bar, don't you?

Rochard 06-30-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20512256)
Interesting to see the outcome of this -- if they ever catch the ''vandals?'' What does ''cut'' mean exactly?

Maybe, someone was less than pleased with their broadband customer support -- paybacks are a bitch.

The FBI has been involved; It turns out this is not the first time this has happened. Seems it's happened a dozen times in the past four years.

"Cut" means someone broke into a "facility" and physically cut the cables. I might be off on this but I don't believe it's like cutting the cable that runs to your TV - These are "trunks of cables" and thick enough so that you couldn't wrap your arms around them. This carries Internet, phone, and television for the entire region.

baddog 06-30-2015 07:33 PM

They have two options: central office or underground.

pstation 06-30-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20512327)
The FBI has been involved; It turns out this is not the first time this has happened. Seems it's happened a dozen times in the past four years.

"Cut" means someone broke into a "facility" and physically cut the cables. I might be off on this but I don't believe it's like cutting the cable that runs to your TV - These are "trunks of cables" and thick enough so that you couldn't wrap your arms around them. This carries Internet, phone, and television for the entire region.

nah. at best the cables are maybe a few inches thick. anyone could easily cut them if they happened to know where they might be buried.

crockett 06-30-2015 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20512320)
Oh, why not show us how easy it is to find the maps and associated prints that are required to systematically cut the right cables. Yeah, if it was an inside job it could be done, but not solo and certainly not just an upset customer.

You really work at resetting that personal bar, don't you?

I used to install cable and fiber before I got into adult. It's not hard to find fiber lines if you know what you are looking for.. OBVIOUSLY by the fact these guys took out 3 diffrent lines, they knew what to look for..

Jesus you are a dense mother fucker..

crockett 06-30-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pstation (Post 20512336)
nah. at best the cables are maybe a few inches thick. anyone could easily cut them if they happened to know where they might be buried.

It's not hard to find them, when you generally know many main backbone lines run right along the side of highways and are usually marked by little signs telling you not to dig there.

This is assuming they even dug for them and not hit a simpler target like a main junction somewhere.

dynastoned 06-30-2015 08:25 PM

honestly cables are not that hard to find. if you drive down the road just pay attention for colored spray paint on the road. when someone wants to dig they need to get what is called a USA. basically you need to notify these people to ask them if it's safe to dig in that specific area. they'll come out and spray shit on the road telling you what is underground and where they are buried approximately. i believe cable television/internet underground color code is orange here in the US. if there is cable they'll spray lines on the concrete where the cables are running or if it's off the road in the dirt point an arrow in the direction and say something like comcast 9' --> that way n possibly put a stake in the ground or something.

so out in the country just on the outskirts of a city i'm sure you could find some cables and fuck some shit up rather easily without garnering a ton of attention.

baddog 06-30-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20512346)
I used to install cable and fiber before I got into adult. It's not hard to find fiber lines if you know what you are looking for.. OBVIOUSLY by the fact these guys took out 3 diffrent lines, they knew what to look for..

Jesus you are a dense mother fucker..

yeah, backbones are just buried along the highway with a little orange flag on them.

Mr Pheer 06-30-2015 10:16 PM

I think crockett did it.

MiamiBoyz 06-30-2015 10:58 PM

Hotspot on the iPhone and use cellular. Fuck the cable. Clearly a weak link.

aka123 07-01-2015 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20512235)
Why does everything have to be labeled a "terrorist attack". As shitty as most cable internet providers or with their customer service.. It's likely just a really pissed off customer..

Technically pissed off customer can be terrorist as well. It doesn't have to be some jihadist or something like that.

I just wonder that is the location of "internet cables" public information in US or how this attack has been coordinated?



EDIT: If that color marking thing is correct, then it is not that hard to find those cables, at least per se. Though digging through road requires some tools and effort.

For example in here, they are just beginning to make new underwater cable from here Finland to Germany. There are military outposts at both ends. Not for the cable, but the cable is made through those outposts.

crockett 07-01-2015 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20512365)
yeah, backbones are just buried along the highway with a little orange flag on them.

Where do you think they are badpuppy? Do you think they house them in golden vaults?

They go all across this country.. They burry them underground along major highways because the Highways were already there and had easements for the tele/electric companies.

Major highways are already the most direct routes in between cities and towns, hence the reason the Internet backbones follow right along the road sides.. They burry some big ass orange pipe and then slide the cable through them..

crockett 07-01-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20512477)
Technically pissed off customer can be terrorist as well. It doesn't have to be some jihadist or something like that.

I just wonder that is the location of "internet cables" public information in US or how this attack has been coordinated?



EDIT: If that color marking thing is correct, then it is not that hard to find those cables, at least per se. Though digging through road requires some tools and effort.



For example in here, they are just beginning to make new underwater cable from here Finland to Germany. There are military outposts at both ends. Not for the cable, but the cable is made through those outposts.

It's not hard.. Just compare a map of the major U.S. Highways then do a search for a internet backbone map in the U.S. You will notice the backbone follows major highways..

Also as dynastoned mentioned, there is cable location services which are free.. If you really wanted to be an ass and knew "about" where the cable was, you could just call up the cable location service tell them you need to dig in that area then they will come out and mark everything for you.. That would be the truly ballsy way of doing it.

crockett 07-01-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20512329)
They have two options: central office or underground.

There are small buildings all over major line routes where the local areas branch from. You often see them on the road sides and they will have what ever the local providers,name is on them.. like. Att, comcast..ect..

They are never manned and are usually fenced off.. you break into one of those and you can disable that entire area.

Edit..

I take that back as most areas are serviced by more than one major line. You would need to take out a couple locations to disable a major city, but smaller areas would be hit the hardest by hitting a single junction building.

epitome 07-01-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20512301)
Yeah, because accessing cables like that is so easy; anyone can do it. It's not crockett science, right?

Actually, they are only two or three feet in the ground and clearly marked and easily accessible at just about any construction site.

My brother did utility locating in the 90s. Back then, a simple fiber cut cost a minimum of $17k to repair a line serving a residential neighborhood. It's cheaper now, I believe, because they can heal the line somehow.

dyna mo 07-01-2015 08:55 AM

what's the latest, rochard? is everything back to safe in rocklin after the coordinated attack?

stay safe, hunker down.

crockett 07-01-2015 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20512724)
what's the latest, rochard? is everything back to safe in rocklin after the coordinated attack?

stay safe, hunker down.

I'm pretty sure I saw on the news, they had to evacuate the area.. Something about terrorists using beams of light to disrupt the internets.

dyna mo 07-01-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20512730)
I'm pretty sure I saw on the news, they had to evacuate the area.. Something about terrorists using beams of light to disrupt the internets.

if rocklin goes, so goes the USA. it's the epicenters.

Rochard 07-01-2015 09:24 AM

Seems this happened again this morning - this time with AT&T lines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20512662)
There are small buildings all over major line routes where the local areas branch from. You often see them on the road sides and they will have what ever the local providers,name is on them.. like. Att, comcast..ect..

They are never manned and are usually fenced off.. you break into one of those and you can disable that entire area.

Edit..

I take that back as most areas are serviced by more than one major line. You would need to take out a couple locations to disable a major city, but smaller areas would be hit the hardest by hitting a single junction building.

I think you are correct - you see these little "service" buildings on the side of the road all the time and have no idea what they are. Some are for water, power, or Internet / cable / telephone, and some are a combination of them all. These are unguarded and anyone we can break in.

dyna mo 07-01-2015 09:27 AM


baddog 07-01-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20512712)
Actually, they are only two or three feet in the ground and clearly marked and easily accessible at just about any construction site.

My brother did utility locating in the 90s. Back then, a simple fiber cut cost a minimum of $17k to repair a line serving a residential neighborhood. It's cheaper now, I believe, because they can heal the line somehow.

Okay, I am sure these days main cables and feeder cables are treated exactly the same; what the fuck was I thinking?

Rochard 07-01-2015 05:31 PM

This has happened a lot in the Northern California area... .

Vandals sever another Internet backbone cable in California | PCWorld

crockett 07-01-2015 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20513224)
This has happened a lot in the Northern California area... .

Vandals sever another Internet backbone cable in California | PCWorld

Probably some crazy anti technology weirdos whom watched 12 Monkeys too many times..

PornoStar69 07-01-2015 06:05 PM

illuminati have death camps for you LITTLE Americans

The games might start in September but they might bring it forward.

You will be screaming like bitches soon.

baddog 07-01-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20513224)
This has happened a lot in the Northern California area... .

Vandals sever another Internet backbone cable in California | PCWorld

The latest attack occurred at around 4.30 am Pacific Time near the town of Livermore, about 50 miles east of San Francisco. Someone climbed down a manhole cover there


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