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DODevelopment 06-06-2015 02:21 AM

Issue with GoDaddy
 
I have an issue with GoDaddy, before we begin, i know how people already say not to use them, and i probably should have listened, but alas.

I registered a new domain on Thursday and set my DNS servers to my host as usual - all fine (or so i thought). I added the domain on my server, seemed fine.

I asked KVS to install their tube script onto my server and they report that they cant load the domain as it hasn't propagated yet, so they modify their hosts file, and install the software on my server that way.

72+ hours later the domain still hasn't propagated correctly, intact, its sending people to a Error 500 page hosted on AmazonAWS (not my host!)

Does anyone have any ideas? Im at my wits end with this now.

The domain is Twinkier.com my host is M3

AdultKing 06-06-2015 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20491686)
The domain is Twinkier.com my host is M3

Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.COM

If these are the right name servers then the problem is NOT with GoDaddy.

However on those name servers, for TWINKIER.COM, there is no Valid SOA record, no MX configured, one or more of those name servers is returning no NS records.

The problem here is at your host, or your name server configuration. Nothing to do with Godaddy.

DODevelopment 06-06-2015 02:39 AM

Can you tell me how you got this information? - so i can replicate it and inform M3?

armysmoke 06-06-2015 02:41 AM

Just have them do a WHOIS on the domain name. They you will see the DNS settings.

Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.COM

MrGusMuller 06-06-2015 02:42 AM

-
Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.COM
-


ping Twinkier.com
PING twinkier.com (54.235.159.97): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
^C
--- twinkier.com ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss


:thumbsup

DODevelopment 06-06-2015 02:44 AM

The reply i got was,


''Rich,
>
> When I do a nslookup on your domain it reflects a different IP then your
> servers IP.
>
> Name: twinkier.com
> Address: 54.235.159.97
> name = ec2-54-235-159-97.compute-1.amazonaws.com
>
> whois shows you have the name servers pointed to ours.
>
> Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
> Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
>
> Note: godaddy domain register allows to add additional name servers. For
> best performance please add the other two name servers.
>
> ns1.m3xs.net
> ns2.m3xs.net
> ns3.m3xs.net
> ns4.m3xs.net
>
> When I tested with the host file the site pulls up.
>
> 37.130.228.206 twinkier.com Non-Existent Domain
>
> This file is only on server v5135l
>
> Non-Existent Domain
>
> The internal server error you are getting is not on your server with us.
>
> This appears to be a DNS propagation issue it sometimes can take 24-48hrs
> for DNS to finish propagating.
>
> Currently the live domain is still using the amazonws IP. This is out of
> our control.
>
> Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns about this.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ryan''

AdultKing 06-06-2015 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20491690)
Can you tell me how you got this information? - so i can replicate it and inform M3?

There's a command line tool on most *nix systems called dig, very useful.

Alternatively there are any number of free web based report tools that will provide the information if you cannot master dig then

intoDNS: checks DNS and mail servers health

is probably the most helpful of these.

Paz 06-06-2015 02:48 AM

It's resolving fine for me but I'm seeing non existent domain for the www version and 403 access denied for the non www.

I'm 99.9% sure it's a hosting problem and you should raise a ticket.

AdultKing 06-06-2015 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20491693)
The reply i got was,


''Rich,
>
> When I do a nslookup on your domain it reflects a different IP then your
> servers IP.
>
> Name: twinkier.com
> Address: 54.235.159.97
> name = ec2-54-235-159-97.compute-1.amazonaws.com
>

Did you create host records for this domain at Godaddy, not name servers - host records ?

DODevelopment 06-06-2015 02:50 AM

No,

I just set my name servers as usual. -ive never done that before..

AdultKing 06-06-2015 02:54 AM

Quote:

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> ns +answer twinkier.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63245
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN NS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
. 99 IN SOA ns0.dnsmadeeasy.com. dns.dnsmadeeasy.com. 1997022725 28800 14400 3600000 86400

;; Query time: 29 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Sat Jun 6 19:53:04 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 85

You have lame delegation , DNSMADEEASY.COM responds to a NS query. You must have screwed up some host records, delete those and you will be good to go.

DODevelopment 06-06-2015 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491700)
You have lame delegation , DNSMADEEASY.COM responds to a NS query. You must have screwed up some host records, delete those and you will be good to go.

Thanks for the help,

I'll try this when i get back home!

DODevelopment 06-06-2015 07:41 AM

When i go into my godaddy DNS manager, the only domain listed there is Twinkier.com the rest say 'this domain cannot be managed by DNS manager'.

I don't know what to do. Would someone consider helping me on Skype. I
'll happily pay.

CPA-Rush 06-06-2015 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20491823)
When i go into my godaddy DNS manager, the only domain listed there is Twinkier.com the rest say 'this domain cannot be managed by DNS manager'.

I don't know what to do. Would someone consider helping me on Skype. I
'll happily pay.

because u don't host them on godaddy? just registered

Adraco 06-06-2015 08:04 AM

I can help you via a screen sharer, if you'd like. PM me your contact info and time zone

DODevelopment 06-06-2015 08:12 AM

My Skype is DigitalOnlineDevelopment

plaster 06-06-2015 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20491693)
The reply i got was,


''Rich,
>
> When I do a nslookup on your domain it reflects a different IP then your
> servers IP.
>
> Name: twinkier.com
> Address: 54.235.159.97
> name = ec2-54-235-159-97.compute-1.amazonaws.com
>
> whois shows you have the name servers pointed to ours.
>
> Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
> Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
>
> Note: godaddy domain register allows to add additional name servers. For
> best performance please add the other two name servers.
>
> ns1.m3xs.net
> ns2.m3xs.net
> ns3.m3xs.net
> ns4.m3xs.net
>
> When I tested with the host file the site pulls up.
>
> 37.130.228.206 twinkier.com Non-Existent Domain
>
> This file is only on server v5135l
>
> Non-Existent Domain
>
> The internal server error you are getting is not on your server with us.
>
> This appears to be a DNS propagation issue it sometimes can take 24-48hrs
> for DNS to finish propagating.
>
> Currently the live domain is still using the amazonws IP. This is out of
> our control.
>
> Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns about this.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ryan''

Ryan is a moron. It is 100% your host fucking dns, rdns and all that other shit they sent.

After a week of back and forth and finally they will get your site working correctly, then you will ask to setup an email. A month or two later you will still be telling them you cannot send emails correctly and they will tell you to run a virus scan on your computer.
Good luck, you will need it.

AdultKing 06-06-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20491852)
Ryan is a moron. It is 100% your host fucking dns, rdns and all that other shit they sent..

It's lame delegation, the nameservers have no idea that they are name servers for that domain. It's puzzling why they're reporting an A record at Amazon if they're not authoritative.

Va2k 06-06-2015 08:31 AM

It's still not resolving on my end. Listen if you ever want to get away from godaddy web services I will match their prices at our hosting center. Hpthost.com Send me email with what you need the price you need etc.

That is for anyone hosted only at go daddy they really need to rethink and redo how they do there hosting for people.
TOM

AdultKing 06-06-2015 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Va2k (Post 20491868)
It's still not resolving on my end. Listen if you ever want to get away from godaddy web services I will match their prices at our hosting center. Hpthost.com Send me email with what you need the price you need etc.

He's not hosting with GoDaddy. :2 cents:

Va2k 06-06-2015 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491871)
He's not hosting with GoDaddy. :2 cents:

Awe my bad offer still stands though.. I could of swore he said he was hosting. Sorry bout that. Thanks AK

TOM

PS I REALLY feel stupid now, "The domain is Twinkier.com my host is M3" doh. Sry. Was really trying to help. *shrugs*

baddog 06-06-2015 09:55 AM

Easier to blame GoDaddy

Ribbet Hog 06-06-2015 10:08 AM

I just got 2 domains last night and a year of hosting.. was a pain to figure out but i came up with this site..

EnterSolomon.com

rogueteens 06-06-2015 11:33 AM

on M3server, did you set up with an I.P. address, delete the site and set up again with another I.P.? I did that once with them, it turns out that the original I.P. will be kept and the second ignored. You'd need to contact M3 and get them to flush it (or something).

Bladewire 06-06-2015 12:24 PM

https://thwack.solarwinds.com/thread/58889

Looking like it's an issue with DNSMadeEasy fucking up again actually, not your host.

plaster 06-06-2015 07:07 PM

^^ Link is from 2013... don't think that's going to help much.

Let us know when your site resolves and how many back and forth emails to host is required before that happens. Then keep the thread going when you decide to create an email and no emails land anywhere.

Bladewire 06-06-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20492170)
^^ Link is from 2013... don't think that's going to help much.

Let us know when your site resolves and how many back and forth emails to host is required before that happens. Then keep the thread going when you decide to create an email and no emails land anywhere.

He uses DNSMADEEASY post I linked to is SAME IP AS OP RE DNS MADE EASY

plaster 06-06-2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20492172)
He uses DNSMADEEASY post I linked to is SAME IP AS OP RE DNS MADE EASY

Are you talking in "code" or something?

He reserved a domain in godaddy... pointed DNS to m3xs.com and it's not resolving for him.

What is this dnsmadeeasy you speak of? What does that have to do with godaddy and m3xs host screwing up all his settings?

AdultKing 06-06-2015 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20492175)
Are you talking in "code" or something?

He reserved a domain in godaddy... pointed DNS to m3xs.com and it's not resolving for him.

What is this dnsmadeeasy you speak of? What does that have to do with godaddy and m3xs host screwing up all his settings?

If you took the time to use dig, you'd realise that the SOA for the domain shows that DNSMADEEASY.COM is authoritative for the domain, which is clearly not what he wants.

Quote:

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> +answer SOA twinkier.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47162
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN SOA

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
. 119 IN SOA ns0.dnsmadeeasy.com. dns.dnsmadeeasy.com. 1997022725 28800 14400 3600000 86400

;; Query time: 335 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Sun Jun 7 12:42:06 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 85
then querying again we find an A record pointing to Amazon

Quote:

dig +answer ANY twinkier.com

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> +answer ANY twinkier.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27769
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
twinkier.com. 119 IN A 54.235.159.97
twinkier.com. 119 IN PTR domain.not.configured.
twinkier.com. 119 IN MX 10 domain.not.configured.

;; Query time: 190 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Sun Jun 7 12:44:15 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 97
This is lame delegation.

If we query NS1.M3XS.COM we see why delegation is lame

Quote:

dig @NS1.M3XS.COM +answer twinkier.com

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> @NS1.M3XS.COM +answer twinkier.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15086
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
twinkier.com. 120 IN A 54.235.159.97

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
. 120 IN NS ns1.dnsmadeeasy.com.
. 120 IN NS ns3.dnsmadeeasy.com.
. 120 IN NS ns4.dnsmadeeasy.com.
. 120 IN NS ns0.dnsmadeeasy.com.
. 120 IN NS ns2.dnsmadeeasy.com.

;; Query time: 40 msec
;; SERVER: 208.80.124.2#53(208.80.124.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Jun 7 12:47:13 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 143

plaster 06-06-2015 07:59 PM

AdultKing... that's great you researched that for his host. Now he should copy/paste your response and tell them to fix is site problem.
At the end of the day it is his host, m3, screwing up all his settings.

AdultKing 06-06-2015 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20492183)
AdultKing... that's great you researched that for his host. Now he should copy/paste your response and tell them to fix is site problem.
At the end of the day it is his host, m3, screwing up all his settings.

Yeah, I said that 2nd post of this thread. I don't know why all this is so difficult, it's fairly clear what's happening.

sarettah 06-07-2015 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491688)
Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.COM

If these are the right name servers then the problem is NOT with GoDaddy.


Hmmm. The domains for servers I have at M3 all use M3XS.NET (not .com) for the name servers.

From the set up email for one of them:

Quote:

Please use these servers for your domain registrations, this is done automatically if registering your name with M3:
NS1.M3XS.NET
NS2.M3XS.NET
NS3.M3XS.NET
NS4.M3XS.NET
.

AdultKing 06-07-2015 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20492262)
Hmmm. The domains for servers I have at M3 all use M3XS.NET (not .com) for the name servers.

And lo and behold NS1.M3XS.NET think's it's authoritative for TWINKIER.COM

Quote:

dig @ns1.m3xs.net +answer SOA twinkier.com

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> @ns1.m3xs.net +answer SOA twinkier.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46024
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
twinkier.com. 3600 IN SOA ns1.m3xs.net. dns.m3xs.net. 2015060301 3600 1800 1209600 3600

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
twinkier.com. 3600 IN NS ns4.m3xs.net.
twinkier.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.m3xs.net.
twinkier.com. 3600 IN NS ns2.m3xs.net.
twinkier.com. 3600 IN NS ns3.m3xs.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.m3xs.net. 3600 IN A 67.23.100.5
ns2.m3xs.net. 3600 IN A 184.175.106.2
ns3.m3xs.net. 3600 IN A 216.177.153.200
ns4.m3xs.net. 3600 IN A 65.175.104.4

;; Query time: 290 msec
;; SERVER: 67.23.100.5#53(67.23.100.5)
;; WHEN: Sun Jun 7 21:20:16 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 214

OP, perhaps you need to set the correct name servers at GoDaddy.

DODevelopment 06-07-2015 09:02 AM

it seems to be resolving for me now. On 3G/4G too.

Can everyone else check?

AdultKing 06-07-2015 09:16 AM

Quote:

dig SOA +answer twinkier.com

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> SOA +answer twinkier.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29614
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
twinkier.com. 3599 IN SOA ns1.m3xs.net. dns.m3xs.net. 2015060301 3600 1800 1209600 3600

;; Query time: 525 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Mon Jun 8 02:13:23 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 82

Quote:

dig A +answer twinkier.com

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> A +answer twinkier.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58005
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;twinkier.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
twinkier.com. 3599 IN A 37.130.228.206

;; Query time: 341 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Mon Jun 8 02:14:44 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 46
Name Server: NS1.M3XS.NET
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.NET
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.NET
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.NET


I see you changed your name servers - it appears the problem was that you used .COM rather than .NET for the name servers as sarettah pointed out.

CPA-Rush 06-07-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20492419)
it seems to be resolving for me now. On 3G/4G too.

Can everyone else check?

u are using 301 redirect ?

Code:

http://tools.seobook.com/server-header-checker/?page=single&url=twinkier.com&useragent=1&typeProtocol=11

DODevelopment 06-07-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20492425)
u are using 301 redirect ?

Code:

http://tools.seobook.com/server-header-checker/?page=single&url=twinkier.com&useragent=1&typeProtocol=11

Nope, i just reset the name servers and set them to M3.

:/ this is getting weird. Maybe i should just transfer the domain to another registrar?

AdultKing 06-07-2015 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20492426)
Nope, i just reset the name servers and set them to M3.

:/ this is getting weird. Maybe i should just transfer the domain to another registrar?

Your name server were originally set to

Name Server: NS1.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.COM
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.COM

you have since changed them to

Name Server: NS1.M3XS.NET
Name Server: NS2.M3XS.NET
Name Server: NS3.M3XS.NET
Name Server: NS4.M3XS.NET

That's what caused the problem, nothing to do with Godaddy, nothing to do with your host, everything to do with your typing.

plaster 06-07-2015 10:40 AM

Wow. Typo problem setting dns. What is also odd is the host quoted the .com and didn't see the error. Just told him to add two more .net for best performance then quoted all 4 .net. I think op and host are equally to blame for this one.

rogueteens 06-07-2015 10:46 AM

loaded fine here now - kernel tube demo

baddog 06-07-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20492426)
Nope, i just reset the name servers and set them to M3.

:/ this is getting weird. Maybe i should just transfer the domain to another registrar?

it IS NOT the registrar

sarettah 06-07-2015 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20491852)
Ryan is a moron. It is 100% your host fucking dns, rdns and all that other shit they sent.

That is pretty fucking harsh imho.

Quote:

After a week of back and forth and finally they will get your site working correctly, then you will ask to setup an email. A month or two later you will still be telling them you cannot send emails correctly and they will tell you to run a virus scan on your computer.
That has not been my experience with M3 at all. The M3 crew (Travis, Chris, Ryan, Danny and whoever else) have always worked their ass off to keep me happy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20492463)
Wow. Typo problem setting dns. What is also odd is the host quoted the .com and didn't see the error. Just told him to add two more .net for best performance then quoted all 4 .net. I think op and host are equally to blame for this one.

Yep Ryan made a mistake and missed the .com part. OP made a mistake and set it to .com. Happens to everyone every now and again, except of course those humans who are perfect ya know, like that Damianj guy who never ever makes a mistake.

;p

plaster 06-07-2015 01:05 PM

@Sara

It is not harsh at all, it is the unfortunate truth about many, many hosts. This issue should have been fixed the first 3 minutes. Sure, it was a mistake overlooking the correct dns but when a customer creates a ticket the response should not be a string of search results offering no real direction to the customer and leaving it at, there is nothing that can be done on our end. Technically, that was correct, but customer service should have been... hey... you got .com instead of .net, change your DNS, all will be good.

If a domain doesn't resolve, the host, without question, should have the answer to the problem. What if it was a money site and down for 7 days because of an error that easily could have been identified.

I don't know M3 except for this one thread, my only experience. I do know that hosts, and email problems, are a common occurrence. I've left 4 or 5 hosts because of email problems, bad IP's, misconfigured DNS and RDNS on the email server, etc.
Knowing of these problems I can pick out, the solution to these problems is Chinese to me (i ain't no programmer ;)). That is why I rely on my host to fix them.

Ever start a ticket to a host and say... "Hey, my sites are really slow and the videos buffer" and host reply with "I've located the issue and it is a large database of wordpress comments gets called every time a spammer drops another message. It is not the message itself but the way wordpress works is every message "calls" the database of 1 Mil +/- stored messages and it is killing the performance. I have started to delete all the comments on all 200+ wordpress sites of yours and am blocking the ability for spammers to leave any more messages. Your server should be performing like a fine tuned chevy in no time."

What reply do you think you normally get when you start a ticket like that? Usually... "Hey, everything looks ok on our end"... and that is it, stuck with a poor performing server because support can't/won't take the time to identify the issue.

Just my experience :moon

DODevelopment 06-07-2015 02:59 PM

Ya,

It was my fault. Sorry for wasting everyones time.

sarettah 06-07-2015 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DODevelopment (Post 20492570)
Ya,

It was my fault. Sorry for wasting everyones time.

It wasn't a waste of time if it ended up getting you fixed up. Just imho of course. :thumbsup

AdultKing 06-07-2015 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20492584)
It wasn't a waste of time if it ended up getting you fixed up. Just imho of course. :thumbsup

:2 cents:


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