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Grapesoda 04-24-2015 02:23 PM

wouldn't it nice to have a fair and impartial media?
 
not one word of this I can see

Clinton Cash: More Names Revealed of Foundation Donors Who Benefited from Hillary's State Department - Breitbart

just a bit on fox....

MK Ultra 04-24-2015 02:30 PM

CNN did a bit on it, I think it's starting to grow legs but don't expect anything on MSNBC :winkwink:

New ethics questions test Hillary Clinton campaign - CNNPolitics.com

EonBlue 04-24-2015 02:42 PM

http://i.imgur.com/oQrq0TE.jpg



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Mutt 04-24-2015 02:51 PM

I read an investigative piece based on this researcher's long report with some additional investigative work on the New York Times website

the Clintons have always been shady, as shady as the Bush family, no surprise, oligarchs gonna oligarch. Obama was more the outsider, more independent, but still every president and politician is a mere puppet with many powerful hands stuck up his puppet ass making him move.

aka123 04-24-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20457770)

Apply that to your political system in general (as a whole).

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 03:08 PM

The BBC are trying to be so 'fair and impartial' during this election campaign (the UK one) that it has become a bit of a joke...

You can see them counting the seconds each party spokesperson gets before they cut them off mid flow.....

BBC producer - "OMG Cameron got an extra 5 seconds, Milliband will be furious - Farage has already filed a lawsuit":1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh...

Joshua G 04-24-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20457770)

ummm...the fact you can find this, even on one channel, shows that the freedom of the press is working quite well. the dream of a fair media is a fraud & frankly, the word impartial itself is subjective. just be grateful your government does not decide what fair & balanced is.

:)

The Porn Nerd 04-24-2015 04:08 PM

Yes, but it would also be nice to have a dick long enough I could suck myself but that ain't gonna happen either.

PornDiscounts-V 04-24-2015 04:12 PM

Wouldn't it be awesome to have a fair and impartial soda?

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Tom_PM 04-24-2015 04:30 PM

Some people probably believe that Hillary started the fire at Benghazi using her personal email server and nothing anyone says on any TV show can change that.

Perception is reality.

Grapesoda 04-24-2015 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20457863)
Some people probably believe that Hillary started the fire at Benghazi using her personal email server and nothing anyone says on any TV show can change that.

Perception is reality.

so now that the Clinton cash is out of the box is it any wonder her emails server is 'deleted' and unrecoverable and she won't turn the drive over?

can you say anything that puts a negative cast on the Obama administration with out saying "Bush"...? just curious....

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20457892)
so now that the Clinton cash is out of the box is it any wonder her emails server is 'deleted' and unrecoverable and she won't turn the drive over?

can you say anything that puts a negative cast on the Obama administration with out saying "Bush"...? just curious....

In what circumstances would you hand over access to all your previous emails?..

L-Pink 04-24-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457897)
In what circumstances would you hand over access to all your previous emails?..

Work or private?

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20457906)
Work or private?

I doubt many will have 100% differentiation - I often email friends at work - I tend to be more careful, but...

Sly 04-24-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457897)
In what circumstances would you hand over access to all your previous emails?..

I wouldn't, but I'm not running for president and I did not use the "companies email" to conduct personal business or vice versa. :winkwink:

L-Pink 04-24-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20457913)
I wouldn't, but I'm not running for president and I did not use the "companies email" to conduct personal business or vice versa. :winkwink:

True, Sly never tells me I'm a douche-bag and to reel it in on his private email.

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20457913)
I wouldn't, but I'm not running for president and I did not use the "companies email" to conduct personal business or vice versa. :winkwink:

So is the fact that that she used the 'companies email' to conduct personal business enough to disqualify her as president?..

It was (historical) bad judgement at best - She's not the first potential candidate to have suffered from that, surely?....

Sly 04-24-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457917)
So is the fact that that she used the 'companies email' to conduct personal business enough to disqualify her as president?..

It was bad judgement at best - She's not the first potential candidate to have suffered from that, surely?....

I wouldn't call it "bad judgment" when she destroyed items that she was specifically not supposed to destroy. If this happened after we knew of a crime, it would be called tampering with evidence. In this case, we have no way of knowing whether or not there is a crime because the evidence was destroyed.

Did she commit a crime? I have no idea, but she sure did not help her case.

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20457923)
I wouldn't call it "bad judgment" when she destroyed items that she was specifically not supposed to destroy. If this happened after we knew of a crime, it would be called tampering with evidence. In this case, we have no way of knowing whether or not there is a crime because the evidence was destroyed.

Did she commit a crime? I have no idea, but she sure did not help her case.

We don't know if she was protecting her privacy or covering up something - We may never know - The million dollar question is, is it enough to disqualify her as a presidential candidate?..

I think history will tell us that it's not - In fact the OP points to that.....

Tom_PM 04-24-2015 05:52 PM

Dude, what are you talking about? When did I say Bush? You want me to say something negative about Obama and that will give me credibility with you? And you will play nicely and do the same someday too? lol ok.

I have always said that the INSTANT Obama said the phrase "clean coal" I knew he was completely useless on any major strides to get off oil and coal and move this country into the future. Also, that whole "pull the plug on grandma" bullshit from senator Grassley was, in my view, an orchestrated fiasco from both sides to help get single payer out of the equation. That was such utter bullshit that I'm still pissed off about it!

Obama was also, and still is also, by far, the vastly better option than that asshole or two the right put up against him. IMHO. YMMV. YOLO. LOL. GFY. ETC.

:winkwink:



Oh emails and shit? Who didn't erase their personal emails? lmao. Everyone did. The ENTIRE email thing is a red herring IMHO and you would be smart to begin seeing it that way right NOW rather than be in the crowd that never gives up on it. Hispanic Jeb deleted all of his too, lol. Nobody cares because they shouldn't The ONLY reason anyone would care is if they have pre-judged her guilty. Like cops deciding the husband killed the wife and naturally putting everything into that storyline to convict him when it was the neighbor. This shit happens all the time and should be apparent. But, faith is for the blind.. in other words people are going to see what they want to see.. back again at perception is reality and giving :2 cents:

Tom_PM 04-24-2015 05:53 PM

No, in some peoples mind she DID commit a crime and no recoveries of any emails in the universe will un-convict her.

bronco67 04-24-2015 06:00 PM

If you ask me, the conservative sludge machine is releasing this way too early. Why blow your wad 2 years before the election when this might be the best ammo you have to keep Hillary out of the white house? You know it's not like Republicans are going to win because they have such great stances on all the issues, so they need to sling as much mud as possible. With the clown show running on their side, they need all the help they can get. Being against everything, except for big business, guns, gays and minorities is not a platform.

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20457935)
If you ask me, the conservative sludge machine is releasing this way too early. Why blow your wad 2 years before the election when this might be the best ammo you have to keep Hillary out of the white house...

Maybe they are pre-empting a similar volley from the left - If a Rep candidate has a similar problem the Dem's can't really say a lot...

The Porn Nerd 04-24-2015 06:15 PM

This is all some Master Plan by Joe Biden.

DraX 04-24-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20457843)
ummm...the fact you can find this, even on one channel, shows that the freedom of the press is working quite well. the dream of a fair media is a fraud & frankly, the word impartial itself is subjective. just be grateful your government does not decide what fair & balanced is.

:)

Not flaming you Josh but we are far from a fair media landscape and honestly im not grateful the governments gives us "some" freedom back.

This also reminds me that most of us are born into slavery.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 07:41 PM

the emails were not Hillary's to delete, they were the State Department's, you know, her employer at the time..

and it was requested she hand over specific emails, none of which were personal emails, when she conveniently erased them permanently. she did this after the senate oversight committee requested the pertinent emails.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457945)
Maybe they are pre-empting a similar volley from the left - If a Rep candidate has a similar problem the Dem's can't really say a lot...

in my thread here on this book, it was brought up that the very same author is releasing the very same sort of book on Jeb Bush. and, obviously, closer to the elections.

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20458006)
in my thread here on this book, it was brought up that the very same author is releasing the very same sort of book on Jeb Bush. and, obviously, closer to the elections.

It was precisely that post that inspired my comment...

dyna mo 04-24-2015 07:48 PM

timeline of Hillary email

Summer, 2014: State Department officials responding to a request for documents from the House Select Committee on Benghazi realize there are no records to or from an official State Department e-mail account for Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us...=politics&_r=1

December 2014: In response to a request from the State Department, Clinton provides 50,000 pages of printed e-mails. The Department provides 900 pages related to Benghazi to the House committee in February.

March 10, 2015: Clinton tells reporters that she set up the system because she did not want to carry two devices–one for work email and one for personal e-mail.

She says she turned over 30,490 work-related e-mails to the State Department

and deleted 31,830 e-mails that she deemed to be personal.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 07:51 PM

oh, and the not wanting to use 2 devices bullshit excuse has been proven a lie, she emailed often from 2 devices, official State Department business emails.

oppoten 04-24-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457813)
The BBC are trying to be so 'fair and impartial' during this election campaign (the UK one) that it has become a bit of a joke...

You can see them counting the seconds each party spokesperson gets before they cut them off mid flow.....

BBC producer - "OMG Cameron got an extra 5 seconds, Milliband will be furious - Farage has already filed a lawsuit":1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh...

I think that's why Cameron didn't show up for the BBC debate.

TheSquealer 04-24-2015 09:39 PM

since everyone is biased, the perception of impartiality or the lackthereof, becomes highly subjective

EddyTheDog 04-24-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20458069)
since everyone is biased, tne perception of impartiality or the lackthereof, becomes highly subjective

:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup

Grapesoda 04-25-2015 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457897)
In what circumstances would you hand over access to all your previous emails?..

if I worked for the government and they owned all my emails????? the issue is she used her "PRIVATE" email server not the government server she was SUPPOSED to be using hence the government owns all the emails..

Grapesoda 04-25-2015 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20457917)
So is the fact that that she used the 'companies email' to conduct personal business enough to disqualify her as president?..

It was (historical) bad judgement at best - She's not the first potential candidate to have suffered from that, surely?....

the bad judgment is using a personal sever for government work, refusing to turn the emails over, saying the hard drive crashed and then refusing to turn the crashed hard drive over... that enough bad judgment for you?

Grapesoda 04-25-2015 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20458009)

March 10, 2015: Clinton tells reporters that she set up the system because she did not want to carry two devices?one for work email and one for personal e-mail.

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wow wonder when the hillary will catch up to the rest of the world... I have 4 email accounts on my phone :helpme

TheSquealer 04-25-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20458249)
the bad judgment is using a personal sever for government work, refusing to turn the emails over, saying the hard drive crashed and then refusing to turn the crashed hard drive over... that enough bad judgment for you?

then, well after the fact admitted to destroying/deleting the data


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