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clickhappy 12-19-2014 07:38 PM

So if people are conditioned to getting all their porn for free then what ARE people buying?
 
They have to be buying something because the tubes keep going. Revenue has to come from somewhere in order for companies to buy ads on tubes and keep them going.

So are people still buying paysite memberships but at a lower rate?
Are they buying hookup personals memberships? chat tokens? cam tokens? Pills?

In thinking of leaving adult a friend told me that "Sex always sells, theres always money in it" so Im just trying to figure out where to focus on. any advice?

Phoenix 12-19-2014 07:43 PM

They are still paying. Look at the tubes...quality is shit...the volume of porn gets them there, but to see anything quality...and in "HD" you need to buy a membership to the premium section. Many buyers are aware of this, and I think the trend will continue.

There will always be guys willing to yank it to low res content that they have seen 100 times. Some of them could be customers, some not.

pornmasta 12-19-2014 07:55 PM

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The Porn Nerd 12-19-2014 07:58 PM

As an affiliate times are tougher so perhaps it's best to focus on either those areas where affs still have some growth potential (cams, dating) or to become an Owner yourself. But being a Program Owner/paysite webmaster is a LOT of fucking work, tho Ownership has its' privelages.

So really it all comes down to how much you want to work, how hard and how long. Maybe you have a bankroll and want to just throw money at buying traffic and sending it to Sponsers. But whatever you choose just remember that while "sex sells" nothing is easy (anymore).

Good luck!

thecatwrites 12-19-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20331503)
As an affiliate times are tougher so perhaps it's best to focus on either those areas where affs still have some growth potential (cams, dating) or to become an Owner yourself. But being a Program Owner/paysite webmaster is a LOT of fucking work, tho Ownership has its' privelages.

So really it all comes down to how much you want to work, how hard and how long. Maybe you have a bankroll and want to just throw money at buying traffic and sending it to Sponsers. But whatever you choose just remember that while "sex sells" nothing is easy (anymore).

Good luck!

Good insight :thumbsup

fappingJack 12-19-2014 11:04 PM

Nice thoughts.

datingbanking 12-22-2014 07:55 AM

cams and dating, anything where you can put a paywall and where there is no other choice than pay ;-)

Arnox 12-22-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by datingbanking (Post 20334114)
cams and dating, anything where you can put a paywall and where there is no other choice than pay ;-)

I think My Free Cams is an excellent example of you not needing to put everything behind a paywall - especially in the cam industry. Those girls practically give themselves away, yet still make bank (and make me some nice money as well) because they're offering up an experience that people are happy to pay for.

But to answer OP's question, people are buying webcam sex - and lots of it.

shoot twice 12-22-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 20331480)
They have to be buying something because the tubes keep going. Revenue has to come from somewhere in order for companies to buy ads on tubes and keep them going.

So are people still buying paysite memberships but at a lower rate?
Are they buying hookup personals memberships? chat tokens? cam tokens? Pills?

In thinking of leaving adult a friend told me that "Sex always sells, theres always money in it" so Im just trying to figure out where to focus on. any advice?

Focus on hedge funds, shell corporations, a secret bank account on the island of Nauru and possibly the US military's Porn for Muslims distribution.

Otherwise create a website called Pizza-4-Pornstars.com Then put in place a system where horny men pay you to be the pizza delivery boy going around to various pornstars and escorts in your area.

ITraffic 12-22-2014 10:34 AM

you have to think whether it is rational to devote time, energy and resources selling in a market where you can't conceive of anyone paying for anything. there are products out there people actually want to buy. find those on the way up, not the way down.

OldJeff 12-22-2014 11:03 AM

Same thing they always bought.........perception

Ferus 12-22-2014 11:33 AM

Like all other business targeting consumers, you use sex to generate the traffic, and either sell them something they dident know they wanted, or sell the traffic.

Mickey_ 12-22-2014 11:36 AM

Interactive porn among others. :pimp

kristin 12-22-2014 11:44 AM

Cams & dating.

ErectMedia 12-22-2014 12:35 PM

Most of my adult income today comes from Cams, 11+ years ago it was paysite sales. Think most income today comes from Cams, Dating, Niche/Quality paysite sales. Basically what can't ya pirate? :2 cents:

fetishwealth 12-22-2014 12:36 PM

Quality.

People are buying Quality.

VikingMan 12-22-2014 12:43 PM

niche dating......you are welcome. Lots of lonely people out there.

Klen 12-22-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 20334469)
Most of my adult income today comes from Cams, 11+ years ago it was paysite sales. Think most income today comes from Cams, Dating, Niche/Quality paysite sales. Basically what can't ya pirate? :2 cents:

Cams and dating also have "pirate versions" but unlike paysites they are more resistant to it.
For example,site like chaturbate have +2000 freeloader and one sucker which pays for show.
While such approach still works for chaturbate owner,it is not so good for affiliates.I mean,everytime when i visited chaturbate there was always plently of already paid shows.
And when it comes to dating,there are zillion of free dating sites so it's not that easy either.

ITraffic 12-22-2014 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20334491)
Cams and dating also have "pirate versions" but unlike paysites they are more resistant to it.
For example,site like chaturbate have +2000 freeloader and one sucker which pays for show.
While such approach still works for chaturbate owner,it is not so good for affiliates.I mean,everytime when i visited chaturbate there was always plently of already paid shows.
And when it comes to dating,there are zillion of free dating sites so it's not that easy either.

and also before there say for example 1000 affiliates and 700 programs to promote from now there are say 800 affiliates trying to compete to promote 20 programs.

ErectMedia 12-22-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20334491)
Cams and dating also have "pirate versions" but unlike paysites they are more resistant to it.
For example,site like chaturbate have +2000 freeloader and one sucker which pays for show.
While such approach still works for chaturbate owner,it is not so good for affiliates.I mean,everytime when i visited chaturbate there was always plently of already paid shows.
And when it comes to dating,there are zillion of free dating sites so it's not that easy either.

Some of my big spenders that drop hundos month after month on cams spend most of their time talking to the girl in private as it's more of a virtual girlfriend over the actual sexual act of watching them fuck themselves. I've only used Cams.com in the past and now Streamate pretty exclusively over the years never used chaturbate or any of the others that aim at highlighting the free business model as it's the same concept of tubes of let's give everything away and sell adspots.

Kingfish 12-22-2014 01:12 PM

Honestly, I still do best with pay sites they convert much better than cams or dating. It is just you need a very high volume of traffic to make money at it. I have always made money at this business when I do something everybody else isn't doing. Tubes for the small webmaster are dead at best you're going to get about $.02 a click running some kind of filler ads, and if your real lucky maybe your pop unders will net you a little less than $2 a thousand severed on your first world traffic.

If you look at Mindgeek's latest project they are pushing:

Thumbzilla is Back! Free Sex Movies & Fuck Videos Online

A Tube with no ads and 720p video.
Notice it is all about pay sites again. The videos have link to the respective paysite the video is from there are no dating offers, cam offers or penis pills anywhere to be found.

The Porn Nerd 12-22-2014 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingfish (Post 20334518)
Honestly, I still do best with pay sites they convert much better than cams or dating. It is just you need a very high volume of traffic to make money at it. I have always made money at this business when I do something everybody else isn't doing. Tubes for the small webmaster are dead at best you're going to get about $.02 a click running some kind of filler ads, and if your real lucky maybe your pop unders will net you a little less than $2 a thousand severed on your first world traffic.

If you look at Mindgeek's latest project they are pushing:

Thumbzilla is Back! Free Sex Movies & Fuck Videos Online

A Tube with no ads and 720p video.
Notice it is all about pay sites again. The videos have link to the respective paysite the video is from there are no dating offers, cam offers or penis pills anywhere to be found.

WELL let's see how that site progresses before we declare it finished or a 'success' (which I am hoping it is!). But I agree it's all about the paysites BECAUSE....drum roll please....it's the ONLY place where actual filmed CONTENT is still being produced. DVD sales? OK a little bit, but mostly it's still paysites. And I think the Industry is finally (finally?) figuring out that if paysites die then traffic dies, revenue dies, the entire Industry fades.

TrafficGoldmine 12-22-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 20331480)

Are they buying hookup personals memberships? chat tokens? cam tokens? Pills?


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TrashyGirl 12-22-2014 03:58 PM

Cams, dating, niche sites. Still get a check every month from AEBN for a few niche theater promos, I probably should push them more in 2015. Product sales like dick pills and sex toys still dribble in (ugh the pun).

AllAdultWebsites 12-23-2014 01:31 PM

I would assume live cameras. People always say cameras and dating are good (although I've never worked on any of these personally, yet), so I would say that there must be something about dating sites too.

90% of people get out of this, and there is 0.5% or some other number of people who make several thousands $ per day.


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