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RummyBoy 10-30-2014 05:11 AM

Tim Cook Announces His Gayness
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tim-co...--finance.html

Tim Cook has announced it.

Anyone surprised? And does that sound prejudiced?
How will it affect the next iphone?

Jel 10-30-2014 05:29 AM

serious question - why/how does anyone feel 'proud' to be gay? or black, male, female, hetero, English, American, etc?

Where does pride come into something that isn't a choice?

Good on him though for coming out and any strength it gives to those who are maybe embarrassed by their sexuality. I just don't understand the 'proud to be insert_no_choice_situation_here'

CaptainHowdy 10-30-2014 05:32 AM

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RummyBoy 10-30-2014 05:34 AM

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...e-gay#r=hp-lst

Well, he could have just said "I'm Gay" and that was it.

The best way to do it is during an interview when someone references relationships with women and he could say "Well it doesn't affect me as I'm gay." and that is it. Nothing more to say, it would still hit the headlines.

Maybe he wants to advertise the fact..... so he'll attract some yawning men.

Klen 10-30-2014 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20271919)
serious question - why/how does anyone feel 'proud' to be gay? or black, male, female, hetero, English, American, etc?

Where does pride come into something that isn't a choice?

Good on him though for coming out and any strength it gives to those who are maybe embarrassed by their sexuality. I just don't understand the 'proud to be insert_no_choice_situation_here'

Well,you can be either proud or ashamed,there is no mid :=)

just a punk 10-30-2014 05:56 AM

A boss of Apple is gay? What a "surprise"...

Jel 10-30-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20271932)
Well,you can be either proud or ashamed,there is no mid :=)

but how can you be either proud or ashamed of being born gay, straight, black, white, English, American, etc etc?

It's like being 'proud' or 'ashamed' of being aged 37...

Jel 10-30-2014 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20271924)
http://www.businessweek.com/articles...e-gay#r=hp-lst

Well, he could have just said "I'm Gay" and that was it.

The best way to do it is during an interview when someone references relationships with women and he could say "Well it doesn't affect me as I'm gay." and that is it. Nothing more to say, it would still hit the headlines.

Maybe he wants to advertise the fact..... so he'll attract some yawning men.

well I can see why he did it the way he did, as there's still a HUGE portion of the world that are homophobic. I don't get the actual reasoning/belief behind being proud (or not). Maybe that's just a way of encouraging others not to be embarrassed about who/what they are if they have no control over it I guess. If it works that can't be a bad thing :)

BlackCrayon 10-30-2014 06:24 AM

everyone who feels the need to talk about how proud they are of whatever, is really very insecure and probably hates themselves.

poncabare 10-30-2014 07:18 AM

so proud that he waited 53 years to announce...

Fat Panda 10-30-2014 07:28 AM

such shocking news

DamageX 10-30-2014 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20271919)
serious question - why/how does anyone feel 'proud' to be gay? or black, male, female, hetero, English, American, etc?

Not to mention it's discriminatory. It's OK to say "I'm proud to be gay" but if someone says "I'm proud to be straight" then you can bet your ass people will find ways to brand that as homophobic. Same with saying you're proud of being whatever race you are, it's OK as long as you're not white.

Fucked up world. Just fucking let everyone hate everyone best they want and be done with it.

EddyTheDog 10-30-2014 08:37 AM

I wonder if he needs a toy boy - Also, can I still be a 'toyboy' at 43?..

Jel: I think when someone says they are 'proud' to be gay they are actually saying that they are not ashamed of it - They are using it as a word to demonstrate they are the opposite of ashamed.....

I agree it is not really the correct word to use - It's just a convenient one, 'I'm not ashamed of being gay' sounds a bit defensive...

RummyBoy 10-30-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 20272101)
Not to mention it's discriminatory. It's OK to say "I'm proud to be gay" but if someone says "I'm proud to be straight" then you can bet your ass people will find ways to brand that as homophobic. Same with saying you're proud of being whatever race you are, it's OK as long as you're not white.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh True....... So damn true.......

Likewise if I say I dont want to buy any products from a company who's CEO is openly gay. People will call me a homophobic.

I'll say i'm okay with gays, im just against openness... :1orglaugh

maspc 10-30-2014 09:26 AM

Guess this explains all those bent iPhones.

EddyTheDog 10-30-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by maspc (Post 20272208)
Guess this explains all those bent iPhones.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

edgeprod 10-30-2014 09:35 AM

This has been a well-known fact for a while.

BlackCrayon 10-30-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20272136)
I wonder if he needs a toy boy - Also, can I still be a 'toyboy' at 43?..

Jel: I think when someone says they are 'proud' to be gay they are actually saying that they are not ashamed of it - They are using it as a word to demonstrate they are the opposite of ashamed.....

I agree it is not really the correct word to use - It's just a convenient one, 'I'm not ashamed of being gay' sounds a bit defensive...

i don't see the need for ceo's or anyone to announce their sexual preference. its just a bit strange, in my opinion. like i care if someone is gay or straight. what bearing does it have on being the ceo of apple?

RummyBoy 10-30-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20272222)
i don't see the need for ceo's or anyone to announce their sexual preference. its just a bit strange, in my opinion.

Maybe he broke someone's heart at the weekend...... and got blackmailed. So he decided to go public first and get it out there rather than the media grabbing the dirty ass trash Cook was picking up in the local joint.

I don't even know what a joint is but according to American movies, they're all over the place there. :1orglaugh

edgeprod 10-30-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20272222)
i don't see the need for ceo's or anyone to announce their sexual preference. its just a bit strange, in my opinion. like i care if someone is gay or straight. what bearing does it have on being the ceo of apple?

Well, someone outed him last year, accidentally, on national TV .. so. :winkwink:

PR_Glen 10-30-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20271960)
but how can you be either proud or ashamed of being born gay, straight, black, white, English, American, etc etc?

It's like being 'proud' or 'ashamed' of being aged 37...

exactly, pride is universally a weakness but most view it as a positive thing.

BlackCrayon 10-30-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20272245)
Well, someone outed him last year, accidentally, on national TV .. so. :winkwink:

well if he felt the need to keep it a secret he must of been ashamed to some degree. some people can be idiots i guess but the last thing i'm thinking about when doing business is what sex they like to fuck.

edgeprod 10-30-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20272251)
well if he felt the need to keep it a secret he must of been ashamed to some degree. some people can be idiots i guess but the last thing i'm thinking about when doing business is what sex they like to fuck.

Why was it anyone's business? I don't have a press conference to tell everyone I'm straight. It has no bearing on him as a businessperson.

BlackCrayon 10-30-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20272257)
Why was it anyone's business? I don't have a press conference to tell everyone I'm straight. It has no bearing on him as a businessperson.

exactly, it wasn't anyone's business. so why is it a news story unless someone has publicly outed themselves as gay? people are stupid. i look forward to a day when no one cares what sexual preference someone has.

slapass 10-30-2014 10:47 AM

Read the article. He did it to help change the world. Lots of people are still homophobic as well as lots of gays are afraid to be out. I think it was a good thing.

MaDalton 10-30-2014 10:51 AM

stock is up - that's what i care about

seeandsee 10-30-2014 11:12 AM

how much did stock do today?

Marcus 10-30-2014 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20271919)
serious question - why/how does anyone feel 'proud' to be gay? or black, male, female, hetero, English, American, etc?

Where does pride come into something that isn't a choice?

Good on him though for coming out and any strength it gives to those who are maybe embarrassed by their sexuality. I just don't understand the 'proud to be insert_no_choice_situation_here'

Maybe for the kids that are killing themselves because they are bullied for being gay? Or the people around the world who are killed/beaten for it?

BlackCrayon 10-30-2014 11:46 AM

Here is my public open letter

I am sometimes not straight

I am often times gay

Once upon a time being straight meant that you were lame, that you conformed to society's definition or normal, or to be sober

Once upon a time being gay meant being happy. I am sure many lesbian and homosexual individuals are very happy but so are many others.

I have also known a number of homosexual and lesbian individuals that I would call straight.

Words, so much power and they can be redefined but who gets to decide?

edgeprod 10-30-2014 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20272267)
exactly, it wasn't anyone's business. so why is it a news story unless someone has publicly outed themselves as gay? people are stupid. i look forward to a day when no one cares what sexual preference someone has.

You and me both. :thumbsup


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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20272344)
how much did stock do today?

People owning a single share, as of this moment, would have $106.62 in value. So, more than your net worth.

MiamiBoyz 10-30-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20272035)
so proud that he waited 53 years to announce...

There was probably a period in his life from 1 to 14 when he didn't know and therefore there was nothing to announce, so your figure of 53 is not really accurate now is it you stupid FUCK! :321GFY

MiamiBoyz 10-30-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20272222)
i don't see the need for ceo's or anyone to announce their sexual preference. its just a bit strange, in my opinion. like i care if someone is gay or straight. what bearing does it have on being the ceo of apple?

You really are one stupid fuck.

Who cares about your insignificant "opinion". Certainly no one would give 2 shits if YOU are gay or straight BUT then again you are not the CEO of the most profitable and talked about tech company the world has ever known...so there just might be a little bit more interest in Tim Cook than you - SURPRISE!

It is significant because he is a high profile figure and straights don't need to announce anything because it is automatically assumed they are just that - straight. He's just setting the record "straight" because a lot of people DO have interest in high profile people and his coming out also will give the message to young people that they don't have to hide who they are.

Now stick your head back up your ass where it normally is so we don't have to listen to anymore shit coming out of your trap!

GAMEFINEST 10-30-2014 12:16 PM

good for him, now he can enjoy the penis.

RummyBoy 10-30-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 20272472)
good for him, now he can enjoy the penis.

Tim cock? :1orglaugh

That really shouldn't be funny........

dyna mo 10-30-2014 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20272468)
You really are one stupid fuck.

Who cares about your insignificant "opinion". Certainly no one would give 2 shits if YOU are gay or straight BUT then again you are not the CEO of the most profitable and talked about tech company the world has ever know...so there just might be a little bit more interest in Tim Cook than you - SURPRISE!

It is significant because he is a high profile figure and straights don't need to announce anything because it is automatically assumed they are just that - straight.

Now stick your head back up your ass where it normally is so we don't have to listen to anymore shit coming out of your trap!

well-adjusted people don't live their lives based on their sexuality.

hottoddy 10-30-2014 02:30 PM

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woj 10-30-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20271944)
A boss of Apple is gay? What a "surprise"...

no kidding :thumbsup:1orglaugh

MiamiBoyz 10-30-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20272491)
well-adjusted people don't live their lives based on their sexuality.

You are correct and if you would take the time to read the full article he doesn't. :thumbsup

Marcus 10-30-2014 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20272491)
well-adjusted people don't live their lives based on their sexuality.

Do you really think he climbed his way to the top by living his life based on his sexuality?

He's not living his life based on his sexuality, he's sharing a part of himself to help other people who are demonized for their own sexuality.

djroof 10-30-2014 04:41 PM

Time for the iGay

L-Pink 10-30-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20271944)
A boss of Apple is gay? What a "surprise"...

Only took 6 posts :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 10-31-2014 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20272468)
You really are one stupid fuck.

Who cares about your insignificant "opinion". Certainly no one would give 2 shits if YOU are gay or straight BUT then again you are not the CEO of the most profitable and talked about tech company the world has ever known...so there just might be a little bit more interest in Tim Cook than you - SURPRISE!

It is significant because he is a high profile figure and straights don't need to announce anything because it is automatically assumed they are just that - straight. He's just setting the record "straight" because a lot of people DO have interest in high profile people and his coming out also will give the message to young people that they don't have to hide who they are.

Now stick your head back up your ass where it normally is so we don't have to listen to anymore shit coming out of your trap!

i apologize for making you so upset but i didn't realize we were so far behind that a gay man being head of a highly successful corp was such a big deal anymore. apparently it is, to you at least.

MetaMan 10-31-2014 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20272468)
You really are one stupid fuck.

Who cares about your insignificant "opinion". Certainly no one would give 2 shits if YOU are gay or straight BUT then again you are not the CEO of the most profitable and talked about tech company the world has ever known...so there just might be a little bit more interest in Tim Cook than you - SURPRISE!

It is significant because he is a high profile figure and straights don't need to announce anything because it is automatically assumed they are just that - straight. He's just setting the record "straight" because a lot of people DO have interest in high profile people and his coming out also will give the message to young people that they don't have to hide who they are.

Now stick your head back up your ass where it normally is so we don't have to listen to anymore shit coming out of your trap!

LOL wow you are a complete idiot.

Jel 11-01-2014 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 20272371)
Maybe for the kids that are killing themselves because they are bullied for being gay? Or the people around the world who are killed/beaten for it?

yeah, I kinda answered my own question in post #8, and get the why he did it part, it was the feeling of being 'proud' I couldn't understand.

As Eddy said, just a poor choice of word - 'unashamed' would fit better imo, but hey, each to their own.

I'll give a real-world example of a bunch of misunderstood, and ostracised people: I'm unashamed of being an alcoholic, but if I came out and said I was 'proud' to be one, that just doesn't make sense.

dyna mo 11-01-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20272726)
You are correct and if you would take the time to read the full article he doesn't. :thumbsup

I took the time to read the article in full, I also reread it after you suggested I didn't, to see what I missed. I still didn't see anything to refute my comment. While he very well may have not lived his life with his gayness on his sleeve, or he very well may have. It does say it wasn't a secret in the valley.

Nevertheless, I was responding to what was in the article and I do find gay activists tend to live their lives based on their sexuality.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 20272738)
Do you really think he climbed his way to the top by living his life based on his sexuality?

He's not living his life based on his sexuality, he's sharing a part of himself to help other people who are demonized for their own sexuality.


I've personally seen homosexuals scratch their way to the top of their respective fields while living sexuality bases lives/lifestyles.

I get the need for activism to get others to be more tolerant of different sexualities, but I have noticed that sex activists live the life and that's been shown to have issues.

MiamiBoyz 11-01-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20273423)
LOL wow you are a complete idiot.

Yes, well lick my sweaty nut sac fucker. :thumbsup

Jel 11-01-2014 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20274829)
I get the need for activism to get others to be more tolerant of different sexualities, but I have noticed that sex activists live the life and that's been shown to have issues.

double-edged sword that one, I reckon. while I personally think oh stfu at those types, they do do what marcus said, which is maybe give some strength to the 15 year old teenager who might otherwise have hung himself because eg he was worried about what he thought his dad might say.

I can suffer being annoyed by the gay taliban if I zoom out a bit and look at the big picture, as fucking annoying as I find those types :)

Bladewire 11-01-2014 07:11 PM

Part of the definition of pride is "satisfaction derived from one's own qualities". The definition of prideful is "having or displaying feelings of scorn for what is regarded as beneath oneself" People often confuse having pride with being prideful. The Gay pride movement is about unity, self acceptance, education & strength.



I've spent the last 21 years of my life raising my straight son as a single father that's both "openly" Gay, and an "openly" Gay pornographer. By openly Gay I mean that nobody knows I'm Gay unless they ask a question, or we're in a circumstance, that specifically requires I tell them if it would mean I'd have to lie or be subversive not to tell them. I just say "I'm not straight".


98% of the people I've met in my life do not know my sexuality, but had the circumstance come up, I would have openly told them.

Oh and the CEO of Apple is Gay, any surprise? For many yes! Stereotypes say he'd be to scatter brained, obsessed with unsafe sex, shopping, gossip, or interior design, to focuss on a successful carreer. That's not who we are. They are stereotypes.


I've been to a Gay bar 3 times in my life, and one Gay pride event. I'm socially liberal & fiscally conservative. I've paid my dues for being Gay, and for being a pornographer.


I'm happy that I've invested 21 years of my life raising one well adjusted straight man that knows what being Gay is really about, and he's in school working on his teaching degree while working at a local kids organization for the last 2 years... worth the sacrifice. I'm so proud of him..



MPGdevil 11-12-2014 12:02 PM

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