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KillerK 10-01-2014 01:27 PM

Stevia healthy or not?
 
I see that Pepsi is launching Pepsi True and it uses it.

Thoughts?

Is Stevia healthy?

candyflip 10-01-2014 01:36 PM

Less sugar and no corn syrup. I don't drink a lot of soda, hardly any at all. But when I do, it's Pepsi...so I will likely give this shot.

Stevia is a natural sweetener. So it's better than any of the other low calorie garbage.

PR_Glen 10-01-2014 01:52 PM

the fact that it's natural should have zero relevance as so are many literal poisons. From what I've read stevia is pretty safe from most testing, although it is pretty early. It tastes ok, but definitely different so tastes will vary opinions just like anything I'm sure.

basically I have no problem with any sweeteners, however, i think over consumption of ANY of them is never a good idea. I'm sure that's not what you had in mind but I always mention it because i know too many people who just think because there are no calories they can drink it like water, which few would argue is a good idea.

a bit more natural low calorie idea for a beverage:

4-5 medium sized lemons, roll them cut in half and use one of those hand lemon juicers
3/4 of a gallon of water
grated fresh ginger
couple mint leaves lightly pressed
6-7 packets of sweetener (i use sweet n low, but i think you'd need less stevia for the job)


brew some orange pekoe tea, let that chill and mix it with that and you have a pretty nice arnold palmer

EddyTheDog 10-01-2014 01:57 PM

I tried the Coke version the other day - Not bad, although it does have an after taste - I don't dislike it but will stick to Diet Coke...

Fat Panda 10-01-2014 02:08 PM

ive read the type of "stevia" used and for sale for use at home is not actual real stevia but a patented extract

and growing real stevia is illegal

not sure though

King-Servers 10-03-2014 08:05 AM

I think it is some marketing long time plan

MaDalton 10-03-2014 08:14 AM

why not simply don't drink sodas and use natural sugar responsibly?

Paul&John 10-03-2014 09:04 AM

I really dislike the after taste of Stevia :(

PR_Glen 10-03-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20242422)
why not simply don't drink sodas and use natural sugar responsibly?

because every beverage aside from water has far too much sugar in it?

100% organic fruit juice? Too much sugar
iced tea - too much sugar
smoothies? - anything with lots of fruit in it is too much sugar.

All will make you fat.

People get bored of drinking water and green tea all the time so having an alternative that doesn't make you obese in the process isn't the worst idea is it?

seeric 10-03-2014 09:18 AM

** From someone with hypoglycemia here.

Any sugar substitute is exactly the same as sugar to your body. Caloric intake wise, of course, these sweeteners are really not much better. Your brain is trained to release insulin when you ingest sugar. When you ingest stevia your brain still thinks your ingesting sugar, so it releases insulin. When there is no sugar for the insulin to work on it goes to work on the sugar(glucose) in your blood. This will cause low blood sugar and you won't feel well at all. These substitutes are also linked to obesity and other diseases because they trick your body's learned natural functions. Some studies report clinical testing results of weight gain due to the fact that the body attempts to store the sugar when your brain tells your body that you've eaten sugar. The body then stores whatever it can as fat. There are several research studies on natural substitutes. Google is your friend. Basically, I've been diagnosed with blood sugar issues, so I know more than I want to about the subject. My advice is to educate yourself and don't believe anything you read. Do what works for you and what makes you feel well.

:2 cents:

Tom_PM 10-03-2014 09:31 AM

156 pounds of sugar consumed per capita in the USA. 29 pounds of that from actually adding sweetener to things, the rest is in the processed food we eat! So.. good luck to us all because we need it.

stopitbrrruce 10-03-2014 10:47 AM

Depends who you get your Stevia from

http://i.imgur.com/mgTNMqL.jpg

EddyTheDog 10-03-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20242512)
** From someone with hypoglycemia here.

Any sugar substitute is exactly the same as sugar to your body. Caloric intake wise, of course, these sweeteners are really not much better. Your brain is trained to release insulin when you ingest sugar. When you ingest stevia your brain still thinks your ingesting sugar, so it releases insulin. When there is no sugar for the insulin to work on it goes to work on the sugar(glucose) in your blood. This will cause low blood sugar and you won't feel well at all. These substitutes are also linked to obesity and other diseases because they trick your body's learned natural functions. Some studies report clinical testing results of weight gain due to the fact that the body attempts to store the sugar when your brain tells your body that you've eaten sugar. The body then stores whatever it can as fat. There are several research studies on natural substitutes. Google is your friend. Basically, I've been diagnosed with blood sugar issues, so I know more than I want to about the subject. My advice is to educate yourself and don't believe anything you read. Do what works for you and what makes you feel well.

:2 cents:

If you suffer from 'Hypoglycemia' you are likely taking too much insulin or have a rare form of Pancreatic cancer - Either way you should see a doctor...

:2 cents:

Tam 10-03-2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20242490)
I really dislike the after taste of Stevia :(

Oh boy, me too - it's not SO bad in a cold drink, but put that shit in coffee (hot coffee) and it is just plain damn nasty!! It's got a very strange after taste in it - it doesn't seem to be as nasty if it is cold - but put any type of heat to it and it starts getting very weird.

I use Splenda in my tea and coffee and rarely ever drink cokes or anything carbonated anymore because most use aspartame which I am deathly allergic to - but if you don't mind the after taste, I guess Stevia is better than most as far as being natural goes

But like someone else said - natural doesn't always mean better, especially if you have an allergy to it... just pay attention just like you would anything else you put in your body you've never had before.

iFriends 10-03-2014 10:59 AM

I don't know, but some powdered raw stevia flew up my nose once and sent me to the hospital, lol.

EddyTheDog 10-03-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iFriends (Post 20242612)
I don't know, but some powdered raw stevia flew up my nose once and sent me to the hospital, lol.

I know the nice man told you it was Stevia - However...

iFriends 10-03-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20242619)
I know the nice man told you it was Stevia - However...

Lol! I was making coffee with it, had never done it before. I opened the bag and it came out in a big pooof! And I also dipped my finger in and tasted it, my lip was the first to swell, then my nose completely closed off, NO AIR would go in or out. :(

PornDiscounts-V 10-03-2014 11:11 AM

It comes out in your poo

SuckOnThis 10-03-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20240422)
I tried the Coke version the other day - Not bad, although it does have an after taste - I don't dislike it but will stick to Diet Coke...

You do realize by now that diet soda leads to weight gain, diabetes, and a number of other health issues, don't you? It literally is poison.

Choopa_Pardo 10-03-2014 11:21 AM

Stevia tastes like ass.

I prefer Vermont maple syrup over any sweetener.

PR_Glen 10-03-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20242512)
** From someone with hypoglycemia here.

Any sugar substitute is exactly the same as sugar to your body. Caloric intake wise, of course, these sweeteners are really not much better. Your brain is trained to release insulin when you ingest sugar. When you ingest stevia your brain still thinks your ingesting sugar, so it releases insulin. When there is no sugar for the insulin to work on it goes to work on the sugar(glucose) in your blood. This will cause low blood sugar and you won't feel well at all. These substitutes are also linked to obesity and other diseases because they trick your body's learned natural functions. Some studies report clinical testing results of weight gain due to the fact that the body attempts to store the sugar when your brain tells your body that you've eaten sugar. The body then stores whatever it can as fat. There are several research studies on natural substitutes. Google is your friend. Basically, I've been diagnosed with blood sugar issues, so I know more than I want to about the subject. My advice is to educate yourself and don't believe anything you read. Do what works for you and what makes you feel well.

:2 cents:

i would start by not believing most of what you just said...

if any of that first part were true people with type1 diabetes would be dropping dead in epidemic proportions from drinking it, which is certainly not the case. The whole purpose of diet cola originally stemmed more for their market base as opposed to people with weight issues. All those 'studies' you are referring to were mostly all done in non controlled environments and never took into account sugar intake from other sources ie breads, pastas, fruits, which would basically overlook how much those can effect obesity. 'believe me' you aren't the only one here who has read up on this. I suggest you read further if your health is at risk..

start here http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/glycemic.html

lists all foods and their glycemic index's its a little crude for a list but it is a useful guide. Oh, diet cola or sweeteners not listed, because they are zero...

seeric 10-03-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20242658)
i would start by not believing most of what you just said...

if any of that first part were true people with type1 diabetes would be dropping dead in epidemic proportions from drinking it, which is certainly not the case. The whole purpose of diet cola originally stemmed more for their market base as opposed to people with weight issues. All those 'studies' you are referring to were mostly all done in non controlled environments and never took into account sugar intake from other sources ie breads, pastas, fruits, which would basically overlook how much those can effect obesity. 'believe me' you aren't the only one here who has read up on this. I suggest you read further if your health is at risk..

start here http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/glycemic.html

lists all foods and their glycemic index's its a little crude for a list but it is a useful guide. Oh, diet cola or sweeteners not listed, because they are zero...

Suit yourself. I can give a fuck. I get my information from very expensive specialists in the field. You all keep GFY doctoring yourselves to health. :thumbsup

EddyTheDog 10-03-2014 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20242741)
Suit yourself. I can give a fuck. I get my information from very expensive specialists in the field. You all keep GFY doctoring yourselves to health. :thumbsup

I love you - You know that - However, if anyone charged you to tell you that you are 'Hypoglycemic' you are being ripped off...

Paul&John 10-03-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20242611)
Oh boy, me too - it's not SO bad in a cold drink, but put that shit in coffee (hot coffee) and it is just plain damn nasty!! It's got a very strange after taste in it - it doesn't seem to be as nasty if it is cold - but put any type of heat to it and it starts getting very weird.

Tried it only in coffee and tea sofar.. it sucked ass in both.. however we got a stevie plant at home, and chewing it is pretty good.. maybe will try to make a homemade extract out of it.

EddyTheDog 10-04-2014 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20242747)
I love you - You know that - However, if anyone charged you to tell you that you are 'Hypoglycemic' you are being ripped off...


LOL - Why do I always 'love' everyone when I have had a few too many?..

seeandsee 10-04-2014 05:26 AM

I dont like any "natural" sweetener used in big industry

PornDude 10-04-2014 06:02 AM

Marketing.

L-Pink 10-04-2014 06:52 AM

Have water or a beer if you're thirsty.

jigg 10-04-2014 07:37 AM

Much better than aspartame and the rest of the fake sweetners that cause hormonal and metabolic changes

ErectMedia 10-04-2014 07:51 AM

I drink mad Pepsi, dig when they bring the "Real Sugar" ones back which is happening currently. Only time I ever drank diet is when I ended up at someones house and that's all they had. Haven't tasted any diet in my limited experience as I need to gain weight not lose it where I was like like fuck yeah this tastes great.

beerptrol 10-04-2014 07:58 AM

Just another marketing ploy for the unhealthy to keep on drinking large quantities of pop.

pornmasta 10-04-2014 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20242422)
why not simply don't drink sodas and use natural sugar responsibly?

it would be too easy :winkwink:

timmyc38 10-04-2014 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stopitbrrruce (Post 20242596)
Depends who you get your Stevia from

http://i.imgur.com/mgTNMqL.jpg

exactly, don't get it from Heisenberg


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