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Mutt 09-14-2014 03:40 AM

Selling Apple Short A Good Idea?
 
Steve Jobs was the visionary and the face of Apple - I can't see the company maintaining the wave of trendsetting technology without him. So that eventually has to mean Apple returns to earth along with its stock value.

Yes? No?

AdultKing 09-14-2014 03:51 AM

While Johnny Ive and Tim Cook remain I would bet that Apple will still stay the brand that everyone else wants to be.

SBJ 09-14-2014 04:41 AM

no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered. :1orglaugh Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

Best-In-BC 09-14-2014 05:19 AM

lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

AdultKing 09-14-2014 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 20225079)
lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

So shitty that Apple is the worlds largest company by market capitalisation :2 cents:

BabeHunter 09-14-2014 05:49 AM

I think it's too early for shorting apple at least for long term.
but you can always gamble and buy some cheap PUT options for like 6 months from now.

ErectMedia 09-14-2014 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20225071)
I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered. :1orglaugh Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Smart kid, probably turn into a Scientist :1orglaugh

Famemonster 09-14-2014 07:41 AM

I would not short Apple. I have made a lot of money holding apple over the years, I have sold portions when it was high and bought back later when it was low. Unless you are putting a large sum of money in when it is really high and have read something in a press releases or somehwere that it is going to drop, i would hold IMO

VikingMan 09-14-2014 07:59 AM

Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock.

BabeHunter 09-14-2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20225156)
Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock.

How about GPRO? i did a short term short a while ago, paid off nicely, should have gone long when it fliped hehe could have double my money hehe

Jet Set Cat 09-14-2014 08:55 AM

Apple shorts are too rich and risky for my blood.

Rather just bet $200 on Delta Outlaw in the 4th at Monmouth today.

At least I know the risk both upside and downside.

Dvae 09-14-2014 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 20225079)
lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

Wow... So much hate, so little time!

Dvae 09-14-2014 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20225156)
Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock.

Good call. Panera has now declared itself a gun-free zone.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1932198

seeandsee 09-14-2014 10:18 AM

how the fuck they sell their story year after year?
iphone6 SUCKS, because it should be million years ahead, but no they want to sell phones every year...

edgeprod 09-14-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20225220)
how the fuck they sell their story year after year?
iphone6 SUCKS, because it should be million years ahead, but no they want to sell phones every year...

Clearly, it's the market that's wrong, not you. Blindly hating on Apple has become just as lame as blindly loving them. :2 cents:

AdultKing 09-14-2014 01:04 PM

Watching Bloomberg Mornings, they're reporting Apple may have underestimated initial demand for the iPhone 6.

So I guess it must really suck :2 cents:

MaDalton 09-14-2014 01:04 PM

i'm 30% up, i'll keep mine

slapass 09-14-2014 03:11 PM

You have to say it might be harder for them to grow from here.

mineistaken 09-14-2014 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20225071)

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

That is exactly their style - present some old technology and brainwash isheeple into thinking that it is revolution :1orglaugh

KillerK 09-14-2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20225409)
That is exactly their style - present some old technology and brainwash isheeple into thinking that it is revolution :1orglaugh

They still make the best laptops.

VikingMan 09-23-2014 08:46 PM

Ok I shorted Twitter TWTR today and since I usually lose money you guys should go long. :1orglaugh. If this turd falls to 35 I can make back all the money I lost this year shorting Facebook.

georgeyw 09-23-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20225086)
So shitty that Apple is the worlds largest company by market capitalisation :2 cents:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ies_by_revenue

Shoplifter 09-23-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20225052)
Steve Jobs was the visionary and the face of Apple - I can't see the company maintaining the wave of trendsetting technology without him. So that eventually has to mean Apple returns to earth along with its stock value.

Yes? No?

Not yet.

Although I do believe they are losing their interest in the expense of innovation and to some extent are flogging what will eventually be a dead horse.

However they did sell 10 million phones last week, and even I bought a 6+ and it is indeed the best phone that Apple has yet produced.

So not yet.

xxxjay 09-23-2014 10:49 PM

Apple is just barely carving out its niche in China. I say hold or buy... there is no way there is a short coming

Sid70 09-24-2014 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20225345)
i'm 30% up, i'll keep mine

Would you recommend a broker to get into the game?

VikingMan 09-24-2014 09:27 AM

Twitter is up over 1% today. Told you guys to bet against me. It is almost a sure thing :1orglaugh

PR_Glen 09-24-2014 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 20225079)
lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

i've always hated apple products, i just don't try to justify it with bullshit like how you just did...


oh and as for an investment? No, same reason why its risky to invest short term, tech stocks bounce all over the place and are very hard to predict, especially when 'cool' is a factor.

VSKevin 09-24-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20225071)
no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered. :1orglaugh Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lol iSheople. Pretty much as long as we have tech retarded people, Apple will be around. Teaching my mom to use an Android is much harder than just giving her an iPhone and telling her to figure it out.

xxxjay 09-24-2014 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSKevin (Post 20234336)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lol iSheople. Pretty much as long as we have tech retarded people, Apple will be around. Teaching my mom to use an Android is much harder than just giving her an iPhone and telling her to figure it out.

Primitive man was afraid of fire, till he explored it's many uses.

:2 cents:

NETbilling 09-25-2014 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20225071)
no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered. :1orglaugh Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

It goes far beyond the size of the screen. The ease-of-use, app quality, user flow, and overall user experience is awesome. Tat what makes people love their products, not the size of the screen or the speed of the processor.

Mitch

BabeHunter 09-25-2014 07:18 AM

If apple will have to recall all those problematic "bending" iPhone 6, then we might see Apple go down to 85-90$ in the next few weeks

VikingMan 10-13-2014 06:45 PM

Thank you Jesus! Just another 14 points and I am out. Is TWTR the shittiest stock ever?

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/kaa...579&mocktick=1

Joshua G 10-14-2014 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabeHunter (Post 20225091)
I think it's too early for shorting apple at least for long term.
but you can always gamble and buy some cheap PUT options for like 6 months from now.

yes this company has way too much cash & sales to gamble on a long term short. much better to put a little hi-risk money on out-of-the-money puts then to tie up investment equity on a short.

good post. :)

VikingMan 12-08-2014 09:50 PM

TWTR closed at 36.29 today. Almost there:thumbsup What to short next?
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/kaa...579&mocktick=1

edgeprod 12-08-2014 10:24 PM

Price was $101.63 when you asked, it's $112.40 now (December 9th).

dicknipples 12-08-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20225337)
Clearly, it's the market that's wrong, not you. Blindly hating on Apple has become just as lame as blindly loving them. :2 cents:

:2 cents::thumbsup

TheStout 12-09-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20225156)
I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56982622.jpg

nico-t 12-09-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 20234492)
and overall user experience is awesome.

jesus, you do realise you are talking about just another fucking phone right? Keep that dick in your pants dude! :1orglaugh

hadden 12-09-2014 05:10 PM

Oh shares

seeandsee 12-09-2014 05:22 PM

I predict iphone will stay until version 10

edgeprod 12-09-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20317868)
I predict iphone will stay until version 10

What do you base this on, aside from pulling it out of your ass?

420 12-09-2014 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20317894)
What do you base this on, aside from pulling it out of your ass?

basically 10 is a nice number




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good thread, i just picked up some apple shorts
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1...ort-b-font.jpg

edgeprod 12-09-2014 07:45 PM

Sweet shorts. Where do they come from?

TheSquealer 12-09-2014 07:47 PM

A simple suggestion would be to use past performance to anticipate future performance. There is not near enough data, post Steve Jobs to suggest that Apple can or cannot succeed for another 20 years, without Jobs. So to bet on it is just gambling on chance... not meaningful data.

420 12-09-2014 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20317976)
Sweet shorts. Where do they come from?

china aliexpress.com

2MuchMark 12-10-2014 02:05 AM

Lol. I love how people who have never owned an Apple product spew hatred for something they know nothing about.

Here's some proof once again why Apple Rocks:

About 6 weeks ago I swapped the hard drive in my now 5 year old Apple iMac27" for an SSD drive and installed the latest Yosemite Operating System on it (Free upgrade, btw).

IT had been working well up until Tuesday when suddenly my computer started freezing up on me, about once a day or so. This had never happened before.

With nothing responding at all, I had to power it down and reboot it. Fortunately since it has an SSD Drive, boot time is about 15 seconds. And since its running Yosemite, all of my previous programs and files also open. Zero work is lost and I'm back and running fast.

But still, freezing...

So anyway last Saturday I contacted Apple. (notice: Saturday). I talk to an English woman who tells me what to do, step by step, to fix the problem. Cycle power, click click, cycle again, click, done.

The entire call took about 10 minutes. Total wait time was maybe 5 seconds. No credit card needed. No Fuss, no bullshit. Just answers and instructions. My phone call didn't even need to be transferred to someone else. The first person I talked to knew exactly what to do.

Apple makes amazing products, and their service is just as amazing. They helped me with my old computer which is way passed warranty, running a free operating system, and didn't charge me a dime.

MPGdevil 12-10-2014 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20318159)
Lol. I love how people who have never owned an Apple product spew hatred for something they know nothing about.

Here's some proof once again why Apple Rocks:

About 6 weeks ago I swapped the hard drive in my now 5 year old Apple iMac27" for an SSD drive and installed the latest Yosemite Operating System on it (Free upgrade, btw).

IT had been working well up until Tuesday when suddenly my computer started freezing up on me, about once a day or so. This had never happened before.

With nothing responding at all, I had to power it down and reboot it. Fortunately since it has an SSD Drive, boot time is about 15 seconds. And since its running Yosemite, all of my previous programs and files also open. Zero work is lost and I'm back and running fast.

But still, freezing...

So anyway last Saturday I contacted Apple. (notice: Saturday). I talk to an English woman who tells me what to do, step by step, to fix the problem. Cycle power, click click, cycle again, click, done.

The entire call took about 10 minutes. Total wait time was maybe 5 seconds. No credit card needed. No Fuss, no bullshit. Just answers and instructions. My phone call didn't even need to be transferred to someone else. The first person I talked to knew exactly what to do.

Apple makes amazing products, and their service is just as amazing. They helped me with my old computer which is way passed warranty, running a free operating system, and didn't charge me a dime.

We get it.
You are years late upgrading hardware.
You are dependent on online support.
You chose to pay for it.

Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be so excited.

slapass 12-10-2014 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 20318200)
We get it.
You are years late upgrading hardware.
You are dependent on online support.
You chose to pay for it.

Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be so excited.

The crazy thing is, he is the norm. That is why they are doing so well.

I have Samsung Galaxy S4 on my desk sitting next to an Iphone 5. I could understand the iphone right away. I am googling things on the Samsung to figure out how to do it.

Skeletorrrr 12-10-2014 05:45 AM

I don't like Apple

sebs.rar 12-10-2014 06:20 AM

i think apple is one of the big players and the answer is YES


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