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edgeprod 08-26-2014 10:40 AM

What to pay a VERY GOOD Media Buyer?
 
I've been working with a media buyer for the past year, and this guy is VERY FUCKING GOOD. After some tuning, he's gotten my campaigns humming very smoothly. I'm always making more than I'm paying the guy, and that's the bar I measure media buyers by. Lots of pretenders in this industry, but this guy backs it up.

So, my question is, what do you guys pay your media buyers to keep them engaged? I don't have any illusions about this guy working only for me, but what types of things have you guys done to keep them on top of your account and interested in keeping things rolling?

edgeprod 08-26-2014 12:48 PM

Any advice at all?

nm_ 08-26-2014 12:56 PM

base salary + commission based on performance of campaigns? Seems like with a decent commission it would be an incentive to keep striving to improve campaigns (if theres something in it for him personally) ;]

edgeprod 08-26-2014 01:43 PM

Commission is something I'm exploring with him. Right now, it's priced on volume transacted, in dollars.

edgeprod 08-27-2014 10:50 AM

In the absence of other ideas, I'll just be blunt and ask him what it takes.

CurrentlySober 08-27-2014 10:53 AM

clever thread.. :winkwink:

BAKO 08-27-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20207050)
clever thread.. :winkwink:

:pimp:pimp

RummyBoy 08-27-2014 11:03 AM

Or you could ask him what it takes as you said. If he offers too low...... say you will think about it.

Then meet with him and say that "We felt you were asking too little considering what you've demonstrated you can do, so we are think we should offer you a higher rate".

Shows him that you've given a lot of thought behind what you're proposing as well as have understood his capabilities. People like that can expand your business in ways you didn't even think of - in those cases, I also rather pay more and secure them in place.

candyflip 08-27-2014 11:03 AM

I actually had my first exposure to adult buying ads for telephone dating services in the mid 90s.

The main sales guy got a percentage of sales generated for the territory he covered. He said that long term, it was the best option. He had NYC and Boston in his area, so that made sense I'm sure.

Small base plus commission and bonuses.

fuzebox 08-27-2014 11:40 AM

*insert comment about good media buyer working for himself here*

arock10 08-27-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20207100)
*insert comment about good media buyer working for himself here*

*insert comment agreeing with what was said in quotes here*

Tofu 08-27-2014 12:45 PM

Most of my clients pay me commission based on ROI or a percentage of profits generated.

:2 cents:

JA$ON 08-27-2014 12:49 PM

Anybody worth their salt should want commission. They will be bale to earn more than anyone will pay in salary.

If they are doing real number for you...say over 300k+ in media buys monthly...Id think 100k + 10% of the net PROFITS they generate

Also, Any good media buyer who can constantly make profits will realize very quickly they could be doing it for themselves and will bail, unless they are well taken care of

edgeprod 08-27-2014 01:36 PM

Excellent advice all, thanks!

The Porn Nerd 08-27-2014 01:54 PM

Keep him interested with new clients. It's what he wants anyway. :)

Nicky 08-27-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20207050)
clever thread.. :winkwink:

You don't say :upsidedow

edgeprod 08-27-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20207245)
Keep him interested with new clients. It's what he wants anyway. :)

I don't think he's gonna appreciate me getting in the middle, though, LOL.

CurrentlySober 08-27-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 20207258)
You don't say :upsidedow

As Judge Judy says... "Don't pee on my leg & tell me its raining"....

dillonaire 08-27-2014 03:06 PM

Depends on where they live.

Generally I would say 60 - 75k base and 5 - 10% of profits from media buys.

edgeprod 08-27-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20207338)
Depends on where they live.

Generally I would say 60 - 75k base and 5 - 10% of profits from media buys.

I'm not looking to hire him exclusively ... that rate is for part-time, right? And do you do 10% on the profits, or on the volume? He was pricing it on volume for me.

KickAssJesse 08-27-2014 03:16 PM

You uppercased VERY GOOD for a reason; You should pay him this way :2 cents::2 cents:

edgeprod 08-27-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KickAssJesse (Post 20207348)
You uppercased VERY GOOD for a reason; You should pay him this way :2 cents::2 cents:

I do; I want to make sure it's the right framework for us both to be happy long-term.

dillonaire 08-27-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20207346)
I'm not looking to hire him exclusively ... that rate is for part-time, right? And do you do 10% on the profits, or on the volume? He was pricing it on volume for me.


Part time maybe a monthly base of 2k - 3k. Always work on profit. If they arent buying quality traffic they are not getting paid.

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edgeprod 08-27-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20207363)
Part time maybe a monthly base of 2k - 3k. Always work on profit. If they arent buying quality traffic they are not getting paid.

Okay, I will shift the burden to the profit side. 20% in that case? 20% of profits, not gross, I mean.

TheSquealer 08-27-2014 03:59 PM

You have to pay whatever the higher payouts are for that type of offer. Otherwise, just a few links need to be switched for the one who will.

Anyone that is "very good" knows what the leads or joins are worth and knows what others are being paid or are paying for them.

edgeprod 08-27-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20207405)
Anyone that is "very good" knows what the leads or joins are worth and knows what others are being paid or are paying for them.

They likely only get paid once for their leads, and don't secondarily monetize them like I do ... so their campaigns might not be profitable without that technology. Not trying to be a jerk, just adding perspective. If they could do it without me, they probably would, yes ... but I don't suspect they can.

pornmasta 08-27-2014 04:09 PM

This guy deserve... some bitcoins !

TheSquealer 08-27-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20207410)
They likely only get paid once for their leads, and don't secondarily monetize them like I do ... so their campaigns might not be profitable without that technology. Not trying to be a jerk, just adding perspective. If they could do it without me, they probably would, yes ... but I don't suspect they can.

All adult, dating, cams, pickup etc etc etc monetize their leads many times over trough continued marketing via email, up sells etc etc.. Each lead is worth "x" to you. Each lead is with "x" to the media buyer. Each lead is worth "x" to a similar site with a similar offer. He who pays the most for them will ultimately win.

edgeprod 08-27-2014 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20207421)
All adult, dating, cams, pickup etc etc etc monetize their leads many times over trough continued marketing via email, up sells etc etc.. Each lead is worth "x" to you. Each lead is with "x" to the media buyer. Each lead is worth "x" to a similar site with a similar offer. He who pays the most for them will ultimately win.

The ultimate truth in last statement overrides everything else.

The Porn Nerd 08-27-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20207331)
I don't think he's gonna appreciate me getting in the middle, though, LOL.

True, but I meant recommending clients. As in, be a good source of new revenue for them and they will stay with you out of loyalty.

That's the theory anyway. LOL Good luck!

edgeprod 08-27-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20207486)
True, but I meant recommending clients. As in, be a good source of new revenue for them and they will stay with you out of loyalty.

That's the theory anyway. LOL Good luck!

Ha, maybe, but if I recommend someone who has more work for them, that may be counterproductive, no?


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