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  • C4W
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    • Jun 2005
    • 699

    #1

    De Indexed Of TGP

    I see one thatjust god de indexed.

    Has anyone else seen something?
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  • Klen
    • Aug 2006
    • 32234

    #2
    There is tons of sites de-indexed.Example: http://bravoerotica.com

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    • Markul
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      • Dec 2007
      • 12407

      #3
      Yup if you skim traffic in any way, you risk getting removed from google serps
      But.... I pulled out...

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      • aka123
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        • Jul 2014
        • 4450

        #4
        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
        There is tons of sites de-indexed.Example: http://bravoerotica.com
        I don't know about de-indexing, but the site seems to be down.


        EDIT: Now it worked.
        Last edited by aka123; 08-14-2014, 02:35 AM.

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        • C4W
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          • Jun 2005
          • 699

          #5
          Originally posted by Markul
          Yup if you skim traffic in any way, you risk getting removed from google serps
          Wouldent it be same same as its duplice content?
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          • wehateporn
            Promoting Debate on GFY
            • Apr 2007
            • 27176

            #6
            Originally posted by KlenTelaris
            There is tons of sites de-indexed.Example: http://bravoerotica.com

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            • aka123
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2014
              • 4450

              #7
              Originally posted by C4W
              Wouldent it be same same as its duplice content?
              What is duplicate content?

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              • Zeiss
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                • May 2012
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                #8
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                • Klen
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 32234

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Markul
                  Yup if you skim traffic in any way, you risk getting removed from google serps
                  That is not true at all.Problem is with TGP sites how they are thin content,an average TGP have 0 text/content,only pics so nothing unusual in that when they got de-indexed.

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                  • C4W
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 699

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                    That is not true at all.Problem is with TGP sites how they are thin content,an average TGP have 0 text/content,only pics so nothing unusual in that when they got de-indexed.
                    My trughts exactly it will mabey happen anyway?
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                    • Klen
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 32234

                      #11
                      Originally posted by C4W
                      Wouldn't it be same same as its duplicate content?
                      There are many things which can cause de-index,but you cant put them into same category.

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                      • Klen
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 32234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by C4W
                        My thoughts exactly it will maybe happen anyway?
                        If it happen,it will happen due other reasons.

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                        • aka123
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                          • Jul 2014
                          • 4450

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                          That is not true at all.Problem is with TGP sites how they are thin content,an average TGP have 0 text/content,only pics so nothing unusual in that when they got de-indexed.
                          Pics are content, although Google needs some text to determine what the pics represent and what the site represents for.

                          That Bravoerotica did host it's own galleries and pics, so at least it has content. They are not totally retarded in Google, they know that porn sites have much pictures and not so much "blaadi blaa".

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                          • Klen
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 32234

                            #14
                            Originally posted by aka123
                            Pics are content, although Google needs some text to determine what the pics represent and what the site represents for.

                            That Bravoerotica did host it's own galleries and pics, so at least it has content. They are not totally retarded in Google, they know that porn sites have much pictures and not so much "blaadi blaa".
                            Hard to speculate unless owner of site chime in,for example reason of de-indexing could be mobile redirect or something similar what is not strictly content related.

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                            • Markul
                              Likes Pie
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 12407

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                              That is not true at all.Problem is with TGP sites how they are thin content,an average TGP have 0 text/content,only pics so nothing unusual in that when they got de-indexed.
                              True, but so does pinterest and a ton of sites like it. TGPs are mainly built on tradescripts where - more often than not in these days - you click something and get to a page that's not what you expected = you were skimmed.

                              This causes bounce rates to increase and time on site to decrease and in turn, SE's will notice this and rank you lower. So the owners starts to add a million pops and ads to make up for that loss. This just makes it worse and eventually the big G will just de-index the site.

                              No unique content.
                              Lots of ads and pops.
                              Skimming visitors.

                              Those 3 together will not give you good results with search engines. I'm not saying it's a bad way to do business, just don't bet on SE's providing you traffic.
                              But.... I pulled out...

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                              • Klen
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 32234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Markul
                                True, but so does pinterest and a ton of sites like it. TGPs are mainly built on tradescripts where - more often than not in these days - you click something and get to a page that's not what you expected = you were skimmed.

                                This causes bounce rates to increase and time on site to decrease and in turn, SE's will notice this and rank you lower. So the owners starts to add a million pops and ads to make up for that loss. This just makes it worse and eventually the big G will just de-index the site.

                                No unique content.
                                Lots of ads and pops.
                                Skimming visitors.

                                Those 3 together will not give you good results with search engines. I'm not saying it's a bad way to do business, just don't bet on SE's providing you traffic.
                                Yes it is a "one thing lead to another",if you skim too much bounce rate will be way way too low and that could be the reason for de-index.

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                                • aka123
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2014
                                  • 4450

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                  Yes it a "one thing lead to another",if you skim too much bounce rate will be way way too low and that could be the reason for de-index.
                                  No, bounce rate cannot be too low. But Google will just read and follow the links and see that those direct the users where it shouldn't. Or if it can't do that, that's bad too, as Google cannot figure what the hell is going on.
                                  Last edited by aka123; 08-14-2014, 03:09 AM.

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                                  • Zeiss
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                                    • May 2012
                                    • 5189

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                    That is not true at all.Problem is with TGP sites how they are thin content,an average TGP have 0 text/content,only pics so nothing unusual in that when they got de-indexed.
                                    Well they are galleries. On a gallery users expect to see pics, not SEO essays. When you go to the local gallery to see some paintings what do you see? Walls full of paintings... nothing else. Do you see 500-1000 words below each telling you what you see? No. You see the painting and draw your own conclusions. Seriously, Fuck Google-schmoogle on this one, too!


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                                    • Klen
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 32234

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by aka123
                                      No, bounce rate cannot be too low. But Google will just read and follow the links and see that those direct the users where it shouldn't.
                                      And that is where?How google can know what is the "right" url? Plus that is nature of 302 redirect - it is temporally,hence it can lead anywhere.Unless google remove 302 redirect as acceptable practice then this wont be bad.

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                                      • aka123
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2014
                                        • 4450

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                        And that is where?How google can know what is the "right" url? Plus that is nature of 302 redirect - it is temporally,hence it can lead anywhere.Unless google remove 302 redirect as acceptable practice then this wont be bad.
                                        Wrong place regarding users, it can be any place. Google will use context (on linking site and linked site) and other links, sites, etc. to figure this out.

                                        And if you don't already know, Google don't like that much 302 redirects, if they are actually permanent (same fucking redirect for months and years).
                                        Last edited by aka123; 08-14-2014, 03:13 AM.

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                                        • Klen
                                          • Aug 2006
                                          • 32234

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Zeiss
                                          Well they are galleries. On a gallery users expect to see pics, not SEO essays. When you go to the local gallery to see some paintings what do you see? Walls full of paintings... nothing else. Do you see 500-1000 words below each telling you what you see? No. You see the painting and draw your own conclusions. Seriously, Fuck Google-schmoogle on this one, too!
                                          Yes that is correct,but it still it need to be some real text on it,for example in pinterest style.I actually imagined pinterest style years ago before it occurred but there was never need for me to implement it.
                                          But yes that is what i find it most annoying about google,you need to "build site for users,not for search engines" which is complete bullshit,especially these days with latest algorithm updates.

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                                          • Klen
                                            • Aug 2006
                                            • 32234

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by aka123
                                            Wrong place regarding users, it can be any place. Google will use context (on linking site and linked site) and other links, sites, etc. to figure this out.

                                            And if you don't already know, Google don't like that much 302 redirects, if they are actually permanent (same fucking redirect for months and years).
                                            Yes 302 redirect then become permanent redirect if it stay for a while.And google does recommend to use 301 instead 302 in such cases,but dont think will penalize because of that.302 links were also reason why tgp sites were ranking good for somany years despise many of them not having a single backlink - simply because those 302 trade links were counted as backlinks.

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                                            • aka123
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2014
                                              • 4450

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                              Yes 302 redirect then become permanent redirect if it stay for a while.And google does recommend to use 301 instead 302 in such cases,but dont think will penalize because of that.302 links were also reason why tgp sites were ranking good for somany years despise many of them not having a single backlink - simply because those 302 trade links were counted as backlinks.
                                              What? Trade links counted as backlinks? There is no fucking way how outbound link can change to be inbound link. Or do you mean trade links from other sites?

                                              Google rarely penalizes based on a single thing, but multiple things gives it a "full picture" and then BOOM. If everything in your site looks like shitty, it probably is shitty.
                                              Last edited by aka123; 08-14-2014, 03:29 AM.

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                                              • Klen
                                                • Aug 2006
                                                • 32234

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by aka123
                                                What? Trade links counted as backlinks? There is no fucking way how outbound link can change to be inbound link. Or do you mean trade links from other sites?

                                                Google rarely penalizes based on a single thing, but multiple things gives it a "full picture" and then BOOM. If everything in your site looks like shitty, it probably is shitty.
                                                Yes trade links from other sites to your site it is counted as backlink.It is even visible in google webmaster tools

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                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                  • Sep 2005
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                                                  #25
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                                                  • brassmonkey
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                                                    #26
                                                    oh boy they have the same issue as the other sites ive looked at
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                                                    • faxxaff
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                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 2134

                                                      #27
                                                      So many TGPs and babelogs have been giving shit about their visitor's experience that they just can't complain about being whacked off of Google's index. I think a lot of big sponsors are happy about that.
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                                                      • TheMaster
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 2734

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                        oh boy they have the same issue as the other sites ive looked at
                                                        which is?

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                                                        • just a punk
                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 32385

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Markul
                                                          Yup if you skim traffic in any way, you risk getting removed from google serps
                                                          Yep. Skimming = cheating.
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                                                          • PornDiscounts-V
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                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 5745

                                                            #30
                                                            Google does not like skimming. If a user clicks on a link they should be taken to that link and to that link only. Google does not like endorsements for sites when there should not be any. Most babelogs send you to a gallery on another babelog. Google would prefer that be a nofollow link.

                                                            The true bummer is that sites like Bravo optimize their pics and often use pics from inside the members area that are not available via FHG dumps. So they didn't have duplicate content and the content that was duplicated was elevated.

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                                                            • javbucks
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                                                              #31
                                                              finally google did that, and we are lucky it happening now and not 3-4 years ago
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                                                              • Klen
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 32234

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by vvvvv
                                                                Google does not like skimming. If a user clicks on a link they should be taken to that link and to that link only. Google does not like endorsements for sites when there should not be any. Most babelogs send you to a gallery on another babelog. Google would prefer that be a nofollow link.

                                                                The true bummer is that sites like Bravo optimize their pics and often use pics from inside the members area that are not available via FHG dumps. So they didn't have duplicate content and the content that was duplicated was elevated.

                                                                Google isn't always the smartest book in the stack.
                                                                For the xxx time,google doesn't care about skimming.Unless you have matt cutts saying how it is bad or mentioned it on webmaster guidelines ,it is just a pure speculation.And while i dont know what exactly caused problem with bravoerotica,they do have duplicated content,either repeated paysites details,and they also used sponsor provided description,which is also a duplication.Google watch only text as content,not pics or videos.
                                                                Last edited by Klen; 08-27-2014, 03:55 AM.

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                                                                • Marshal
                                                                  Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                  • 15229

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I guess the real problem here was that sites sending traffic to them used scripts with 302 redirection. More than half of links pointing to their site are those with redirection, which is somewhat fishy to search engine bots. I suppose this is the main reason most of the TGP's lost their SERPS.

                                                                  Add the fact that they suddenly lost 1/3 of their links couple of months ago, and the equation is clear...
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