2257 question. turning 18
 

Can you photo / video a model on the day of her 18th Birthday, or do you have to wait a day? Yes, for adult nudes / porn.

You turn 18 in the day of your birthday so I assume it is OK...

On her birthday is fine yes.

Show me this one!

You can shoot her from the age of 16 but untill she turns 18 it must be under the supervision of her father...

oh wait... maybe i'm confused with getting a drivers license...

Yes, but if you were talking to her before her 18th birthday about adult related videos, that is a problem.
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It has been done before. Lucie wilde and tegan brady. Even tegan posed in a bikini before.. The contract between lucie/agent and some sites was done before her birthday

You can even deflorate her! Show us the girl, we'll tell you what to do.

I agree!!!

lolz...
Most girls start fucking at 14 some younger. (not on camera of course)

If there's a stand your ground law you can shoot them whenever you feel threatened.

Once she's 18, she's 18...and I like it! :winkwink:
{Blatant Alice Cooper reference!}

Yes you can shoot her on her birthday. You can shoot a girl before her 18th providing you're not shooting anything you shouldn't and you have parents consent. You can shoot clothed, swimwear etc before her birthday. Obviously you cant use the content before she's 18 for anything!

That was terrific.

Thank you. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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So it's ok to shoot 17yo girl in bikini wait till shes 18 and use the content on her adult site?

Sure, go for it. :thumbsup

HELL NOOOO!!!! whatever you shoot of her as a 17 year old can never be used on an adult site. Whether she's 18 or 48... you will never be able to use content of her from when she was 17

What's the point to shoot her in clothes? What do you do with the content?

Dude I am really tired of you. go fuck yourself and take more cialis you limp dick.

You are not even producing anything you fucking old fuck. why are you here? Fuck off already!!

Touchy this morning, your boyfriend stuffed it in without lube again didn't he.

Technically she's not 18 until the time of her birth passes on her birthday...

Legally that's irrelevant, but yeah.

useless thread without pic.

what time was shes Born? was it a leap year? summer, winter ? did the clocks go back or forward ?

your life could be depend on it

Yup! Fore sure!


Need to keep all business conversations PG prior to the shoot.


I have told models that we can talk business on or after her 18th B-day. No details or conversations anything adult related until then.


And I keep my email records to prove that.


Just Dave

I am not from US, but why in hell can't you talk about business to 17 years old girl? She can do contracts in there (US) as far as I know, like flip burgers or something (contract). Laws about nudity concern that what is the age of the subjects in the picture/video.

There are countless of underage models for regular business. Just take a normal clothing magazine on your hand and you will see underage models. For example for kids swimwear there are usually kids, not some 18 year old girls faking to be 8 years old (or some old pictures when they were 8 years old). :)

Porn (context) might be a bit different matter.

You can't talk anything sexual in orientation to any girl under the age of 18 in the US. Its a fucked up shade of gray that keeps sexual predators at bay.


If a father of an underage girl catches that, you could also get shot as well as prosecuted for CP.


Just better off playing it safe and not getting arrested.


Even if your a legit, pornographer, they will jail you 1st and let the judge sort it out later. You want that risk? You want to pay for the bail on that? You want to get an attorney for that? Have at it.


Just Dave

This is about age of consent in Europe (taking photos is different matter)

"Consent by age
Age Countries (links are to sections on this page)
13 Spain
14 Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Macedonia, Montenegro, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia
15 Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Faroe Islands, France, Greece, Iceland, Monaco, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden
16 Andorra, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Moldova, Netherlands, Northern Cyprus, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom
17 Cyprus, Ireland
18 Malta, Turkey"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

This USA:

"The ages of consent in North America for sexual activity vary by jurisdiction.

The age of consent in Canada is 16. All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of..._North_America

So, if the age of consent is under 18 (you can fuck her), I am pretty sure you can make a contract with 17 year old girl regarding some porn shooting when she is 18, or at least talk about it.

A 30 year old man talking to a 17 year old girl about shooting pornography could end up in trouble under 'authority' laws or similar, even if that girl is past the age of consent (he's an authority figure, not a similar aged peer). And as JustDaveXxx says any lawmen would immediately blame the dirty pornographer for corrupting a sweet young girl. Why would you even risk it?

Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but even 18 year olds look 'young' to me now. Easy to move on to the next girl who is of legal age.

What are the thoughts on girls < 18 who have appeared nude in mainstream movies and are peddled on celebrity porn sites? Examples include Thora Birch from American Beauty and Brooke Shields from The Blue Lagoon.

Personally, I wouldn't include any girl < 18 on my sites, clothed or not.

Whatever "thoughts" one would have about that...are totally irrelevant to shooting adult work these days, or guiding new models into the adult industry and siscussing that with them before they are 18.

Those are WAY different circumstances. :2 cents:

The authority means teachers, polices and so on. And maybe Hugh Hefner. I doubt that any of you would have such authority over a strange girl, that it would be any issue. I would stick up with 18 year old girls and over, but that doesn't change the case. Law is what it is, and we are discussing about the law, right?

Lawmen blaiming is not the same thing as sentence. And if your system is so fucked up that talking to some 17 year old girl (in this case) would lead to jail time, maybe you should vote some other party than either one from the two.

If you are a pornographer, with provable porn credits and you live in the US, you would be a complete idiot talking anything adult with a minor.


I have a daughter who is 6 years old. I came to one absolute decision: My daughter and son will never have sleep overs and they will never sleep over at anyones house.


Why? Because the 2nd it comes out that I shoot Porn, I don't need some fabricated story getting me put in jail. Paranoid?? Maybe. But parents with nothing to do, will find shit to do. A little girl who is in high school who dislikes my daughter finds out what i do, can lay out claims, etc. Better safe than sorry.


You need to understand when you shoot porn and you have any negative interaction with a minor, you get put in jail 1st, judge sorts it out later.


I had a friend get put in jail because a woman he was friends with only, had a jealous Ex who had his 8 year old daughter make shit up to get him put in jail.


50K later and attorneys fees later it came out that the little girl and her father fabricated the story. My friend did not get his money back.


Cops searched, my friends, cell phones, PCs, checked his phone records, even confiscated his parents and sisters computers to look for evidence. Nothing found to support the allegations made. It sucked!



Yes the law is on your side. And my buddy was considered "innocent" until proven guilty, but he still paid 50K that he will never get back.


Yes you can try and vote anyone out you think is bad, but when it comes to anything CP, everyone is gonna have the same "Hang them all by the neck' Attitude.



So knowing all of the above you can be "Legally correct" talking to a 17 year old, but if it comes to light with parents and the police, I promise you, that you will get your "Innocent until proven guilty ass" put in jail until a judge sees you.


Your choices while in jail: Stay until you can be seen by the judge, which is a week or two. Where you will absolutely get beaten daily by everyone in jail. The good thing is if your story is good and clean, you you may get released on 1st apperence save some money on bail.

Or get out ASAP by putting up a million dollar property and paying 5% of a 500K bond. You do not get that 5% back and you can tell everyone on GFY, you were legally right.




Or you can be smart like the majority of the regular professional adult shooters and avoid any conversation with any minor about shooting porn when he or she turns 18.


Its up to you.



Just Dave

Okay, if something came to be clear, it is to never to move in USA. It seems that you have better chance getting justice in Somalia.

Ohhhh you would be absolutely correct with that statement!!:thumbsup


Even when we do things legally and pay our outrageous taxes, we still get looked at like criminals and Cps, and Pedos.


Its just how it is around here. Sucks!!!


Just Dave

Plz stop this bullshit, everybody waitin for the pics!

Watch an episode of "To Catch a Predator" and you'll know all the laws involved with talking about sex with someone younger than 18. Even if it's via the internet and not in person.

As I have. She keeps saying she wants to do porn, and be a stripper and so on.

Funny part is, I believe it is What State you are in...

The age of consent is 16 here, so I can bang her but not talk about doing porn???

We must keep quiet, I can not tell her what I am going to do to her, what we are doing, and if I have a Photo Graphic memory I am Fucked..... LOL

Oh, just a FYI, I didn't go to her, she came to me. I think she is "OK" looking, I wouldn't shoot her for a solo site.
She just wants to be a stripper, cam girl and shoot some stuff to promote all of that.

Thanks for all the answers, I just thought I heard it had to be the day after her birthday, but who knows...

Maybe the "catch a predator" is filmed in some religious nut state where talking to a women who is not wearing a burqa is illegal? Also, I don't think that they sentence in the program too. Filming something and saying "busted" is far from being sentenced in a court. Or at least I surely hope so.

LOL,

That is agreeing to have sex right then with a person under the age of consent.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

18 years of age is 18 years of age. Day of day, after, there is no difference. You would be fine.


But if its in a state that shooting porn is not legal in, and the girls father, boyfriend, or ex-boyfriend has a "hard-on' for you, good luck with that.


I have never been a fan of trying to recruit young girls into porn. To much shit around it that can go wrong.


Shot a girl 1st scene who's dad intercepted the emails between her and her agent. Was not good! He had the location, time and address of the shoot. Was told the agent he was showing up to the location with a gun.


This was 8 years ago. I thought it was funny back then, but i don't now. I just changed the shoot time and location. The new location had had gates.


Either way anything I do now, I think it out carefully weighing out the consciences of my actions.



Good luck with what ever you choose to do.:thumbsup


Just Dave