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brassmonkey 08-05-2014 07:40 AM

Russia Is 'Ready' For Battle In Ukraine
 
bought fucking time :2 cents::2 cents:

Russia has significantly built up its troop presence along the Ukrainian border, making it ready for a potential large-scale invasion of southeastern Ukraine if Russian President Vladimir Putin so chooses.

The New York Times' Michael Gordon and Eric Schmitt report, citing Western officials, that Russia has nearly doubled its battalions along the Ukrainian border in recent weeks. Seventeen more battalions and an additional 19,000 to 21,000 troops now compose a " battle-ready force of infantry, armor, artillery, and air defense within a few miles of the border." They could theoretically strike with "little to no warning."

Western officials also told The Times that Russia has upped its number of surface-to-air units to 14 from eight, and it has deployed more than 30 artilleries.

Western intelligence officials told the paper it was unclear what Putin was planning, but it is clear they are worried about what would be, for all intents and purposes, an invasion under the guise of a "peacekeeping" operation.

"That?s a very real option," a senior Defense Department official told The Times. "And should Putin decide, he could do that with little or no notice. We just don?t know what he?s thinking."

The moves come as Ukrainian forces find themselves in increasingly good position on the battlefield against pro-Russian separatists, whom the West has accused Russia of supporting throughout the Ukrainian crisis. Western officials said Putin may be feeling pressure to intervene to tip the balance toward the separatists, but he could be worried about the uncertain repercussions that would come from such a radical escalation.

A "peacekeeping" operation is also something about which the White House has worried in recent weeks.

"Ukrainian forces are right now making major gains to regain sovereignty in the east, but at the same time, Russia is doubling down on its own efforts to support the separatists and destabilize the country," deputy national security adviser Tony Blinken said last week. "Indeed, it is cynically using all of the attention focused on the crash of MH17 as a cover and distraction for its own efforts. It?s increased the provision of heavy weaponry across the border. We?ve seen convoys of tanks, multiple rocket launchers, artillery, and armored vehicles. There?s evidence it?s preparing to deliver even more powerful multiple rocket launchers.

"It is firing from positions inside of Russia into Ukraine ? something that we documented this weekend. And we?ve seen a significant re-buildup of Russian forces along the border, potentially positioning Russia for a so-called humanitarian or peacekeeping intervention in Ukraine."

The U.S. and European Union last week leveled a new, more punishing round of sanctions on Russia in the wake of Russia's continued buildup of support for the separatists in the wake of the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.

When asked Monday if he thought the sanctions had at all changed Putin's calculus with respect to Ukraine, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said the White House had " not seen the kinds of actions that we would like to see."

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Sid70 08-05-2014 07:43 AM

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Sid70 08-05-2014 07:45 AM

"It is firing from positions inside of Russia into Ukraine ? something that we documented this weekend. And we?ve seen a significant re-buildup of Russian forces along the border, potentially positioning Russia for a so-called humanitarian or peacekeeping intervention in Ukraine."

Gotta have the balls to say this is war.

brassmonkey 08-05-2014 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20182302)
"It is firing from positions inside of Russia into Ukraine ? something that we documented this weekend. And we?ve seen a significant re-buildup of Russian forces along the border, potentially positioning Russia for a so-called humanitarian or peacekeeping intervention in Ukraine."

Gotta have the balls to say this is war.

a takeover :2 cents:

seeandsee 08-05-2014 07:51 AM

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Biggest is this:

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2,000,000
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upto 100 millions...

Sid70 08-05-2014 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20182308)
a takeover :2 cents:

in Oprah's Vagina terms.

brassmonkey 08-05-2014 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20182314)
in Oprah's Vagina terms.

russian terms :winkwink:

evy97 08-05-2014 07:57 AM

I would love to see this 'battle' but west propaganda machine erroneously forecast imminent Russia invasion of Ukraine for 5 months.

Mr. Bc Rich 08-05-2014 08:10 AM

Russia could attack a country where was a revolution? Cowards..Why don't you attack big countries like China or US? Idiots....

brassmonkey 08-05-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Bc Rich (Post 20182339)
Russia could attack a country where was a revolution? Cowards..Why don't you attack big countries like China or US? Idiots....

the fighters are russian. i say let russia fold them in :2 cents: kill the ones that dont like it :2 cents: :evil-laug:banana

Sid70 08-05-2014 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20182317)
russian terms :winkwink:

Out of the closet finally?

just a punk 08-05-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid70 (Post 20182302)
gotta have the balls to say this is war.

Не ссы в компот, истеричка. Солдат ребенка не обидит ;)

Rochard 08-05-2014 08:41 AM

Seems like the rebels are loosing and loosing badly....

It's very difficult for a small group of lightly armed / poorly trained people to go up against a well trained well armed government army.

brassmonkey 08-05-2014 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20182387)
Seems like the rebels are loosing and loosing badly....

It's very difficult for a small group of lightly armed / poorly trained people to go up against a well trained well armed government army.

you notice there are no more airstrikes? :)

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08...e-report-says/

Rikki-Nyx 08-05-2014 08:49 AM

Russian wont go in.. If he does then Russia's economy will collapse from even more sanctions..

CAHEK 08-05-2014 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20182320)
I would love to see this 'battle' but west propaganda machine erroneously forecast imminent Russia invasion of Ukraine for 5 months.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 08-05-2014 08:55 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1892184


Ukraine carries out fresh air strikes, clashes with rebels on ground

I'm not reading anything about the rebels losing badly.

as long as they hold donestky, they are very much serious adversary. There is no chance in hell Ukraine can take back that city without rivers of blood and that's one of the bigger cities in the country, and I believe the biggest foothold the rebels continue to maintain.

just a punk 08-05-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20182387)
It's very difficult for a small group of lightly armed / poorly trained people to go up against a well trained well armed government army.

Seems you do not follow the news. About of 200 of those "poor trained" mercenaries from private armies were able to surround and block 1000's soldiers of the "government" Ukrainian army. Many of those (I mean the "government" Ukrainian army soldiers) simple crossed the Russian border and asked for a shelter and food: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1146925

brassmonkey 08-05-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20182418)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1892184


Ukraine carries out fresh air strikes, clashes with rebels on ground

I'm not reading anything about the rebels losing badly.

as long as they hold donestky, they are very much serious adversary. There is no chance in hell Ukraine can take back that city without rivers of blood and that's one of the bigger cities in the country, and I believe the biggest foothold the rebels continue to maintain.

damn they are trying to clean up?? :helpme:helpme its not over run!!

dyna mo 08-05-2014 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20182424)
damn they are trying to clean up?? :helpme:helpme its not over run!!

looks like Ukraine forces are preparing to take back donestk



Ukraine?s army positioning to move on rebels in Donetsk
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...5c4_story.html

that's gonna be a battle. ugh. Hope all the civilians clear out.

dyna mo 08-05-2014 09:04 AM

KIEV, August 5 (RIA Novosti) – Ukrainian troops have reached the eastern cities of Donetsk and Luhansk and are getting ready to take them by storm, Ukraine Security Council representative Andriy Lysenko said Tuesday.
“The main anti-terrorist operation forces, including territorial battalions, have reached these areas [outskirts of Donetsk and Luhansk]. It doesn’t mean that any storm has already started. We are preparing to free the cities,” Lysenko said.

brassmonkey 08-05-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20182429)
KIEV, August 5 (RIA Novosti) ? Ukrainian troops have reached the eastern cities of Donetsk and Luhansk and are getting ready to take them by storm, Ukraine Security Council representative Andriy Lysenko said Tuesday.
?The main anti-terrorist operation forces, including territorial battalions, have reached these areas [outskirts of Donetsk and Luhansk]. It doesn?t mean that any storm has already started. We are preparing to free the cities,? Lysenko said.

lets see if russia steps in

Rikki-Nyx 08-05-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20182420)
Seems you do not follow the news. About of 200 of those "poor trained" mercenaries from private armies were able to surround and block 1000's soldiers of the "government" Ukrainian army. Many of those (I mean the "government" Ukrainian army soldiers) simple crossed the Russian border and asked for a shelter and food: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1146925


Are you pro Putin Communist?

Rochard 08-05-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20182420)
Seems you do not follow the news. About of 200 of those "poor trained" mercenaries from private armies were able to surround and block 1000's soldiers of the "government" Ukrainian army. Many of those (I mean the "government" Ukrainian army soldiers) simple crossed the Russian border and asked for a shelter and food: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1146925

The last I had heard was that the Ukrainian military was moving into Donetsk.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...10c04683000dc5

I heard about the 300 troops crossing into Russia, but I'm not sure why. Original reports had it listed as being Rebels retreated into Russia, now Russia is saying it's Ukrainian troops that are defecting and Ukraine is saying something else. Either way, not really caring - 300 troops is a handful of platoons. Maybe they were fleeing shelling or hungry or maybe they just made a mistake and read a map wrong.

dyna mo 08-05-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20182468)
The last I had heard was that the Ukrainian military was moving into Donetsk.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...10c04683000dc5

I heard about the 300 troops crossing into Russia, but I'm not sure why. Original reports had it listed as being Rebels retreated into Russia, now Russia is saying it's Ukrainian troops that are defecting and Ukraine is saying something else. Either way, not really caring - 300 troops is a handful of platoons. Maybe they were fleeing shelling or hungry or maybe they just made a mistake and read a map wrong.

Ukraine forces are just going to "move in" to a fully held by the enemy urban sprawl? Come on now.

just a punk 08-05-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikki-Nyx (Post 20182444)
Are you pro Putin Communist?

Sure comrade. I'm a pro-Putin communist who gets paid 1000's dollars for every post here at GFY.

just a punk 08-05-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20182468)
I heard about the 300 troops crossing into Russia, but I'm not sure why.

Because of this:

https://visualsonline.cancer.gov/ret...fileformat=jpg

Man, you just don't understand the situation in the Ukraine. There is no economics, the country is totally devastated due to their constant revolutions. There is an AIDS epidemic etc. The guys simple want to eat (according to the "well-trained and well-equipped" Ukrainian soldier's posts in social networks, they are used to eat a one day ration within a week).

Even the "elite" soldiers are starving there (the official video of the new Ukranian president inauguration):



These are very poor people.

femdomdestiny 08-05-2014 11:05 AM

Ukrainians attackers are not doing it well. If Russians are organizing and helping militia ( and I believe they do), Russians are masters of defensive fighting. This is one of dozen video of results of Ukrainian "military".


Explicit video, dead soldiers, so don't watch it if you don't have a stomach :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgTnw6iAL7w


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