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megapower 07-11-2014 06:16 AM

Is TrafficShop scam?
 
We have created a test campaign on Trafficshop filtered by Country, Mobile and Carrier they show us 400+ delivered and charged Hits our tracking tool list 32 hits.

We buy from near all advertising companies but nowhere I see a difference of 90%+ all others are 0-3% (except Traffic holder who is around 10%).

As Trafficshop is here actively promoted, is this a known scam of them or do they have some technical Issues?

kittykatt 07-11-2014 06:19 AM

scammers don't give away awesome phone chargers...

megapower 07-11-2014 06:32 AM

I don't get one of them, but anyway it will not compesate the lost :)

Anyone more with some informations?

Lisa_trafficshop 07-11-2014 06:33 AM

Hey, we are not ripping off people, not our style of business. But if something went wrong with your campaigns we will find out. Hit me up on icq with your account name.

megapower 07-11-2014 06:37 AM

Lisa I will contact you later (don't have ICQ here now) to see what's wrong there.

Best-In-BC 07-11-2014 06:55 AM

If google Analytics is your tracker, enjoy tracking 40%

Best-In-BC 07-11-2014 07:10 AM

Oh, and Traffic Shop is the best broker out there right now with two very close seconds

xxxjay 07-11-2014 07:11 AM

All adult traffic brokers are a scam in some way shape or form, get used to it.

signupdamnit 07-11-2014 07:12 AM

They have always treated me right and seem liek one of the more ethical brokers.

adultmobile 07-11-2014 07:31 AM

I used trafficshop for years they're ok. I've tried a $50 buy last week after long time and it resulted in 1 pay user from sweden, so fair enough.

megapower 07-11-2014 07:37 AM

@Best-In-BC
No we don't use Google Analytics for this, we use a custom tracker that should work in near every case as long JavaScript or Images are loaded but this is today meet by 99% of mobile users.

BTW your opinion for Trafficshop would be for me more trustful if you don't have a Banner of them in your signature :-)

30SalesPlus 07-11-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megapower (Post 20154987)
@Best-In-BC
No we don't use Google Analytics for this, we use a custom tracker that should work in near every case as long JavaScript or Images are loaded but this is today meet by 99% of mobile users.

BTW your opinion for Trafficshop would be for me more trustful if you don't have a Banner of them in your signature :-)

If you are relying on javascript with mobile tracking that would be your problem. I've used Trafficshop over the years and never a issue. Chris and Lisa have also always bee helpful when needed.

CaptainHowdy 07-11-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20154947)
All adult traffic brokers are a scam in some way shape or form, get used to it.


Klen 07-11-2014 07:46 AM

Well when it come to traffic brokers,you need to forget about getting clicks which will match with your tracker,it will never match even if you send traffic back to them lol.
What you need to calculate is ration between invested and returned,so if you get your money back,if not then just ditch them and move to next broker.

seeandsee 07-11-2014 09:57 AM

Traffic shop is good broker!

megapower 07-11-2014 10:02 AM

@30SalesPlus
As I written JavaScript or Images means if no JavaScript is active on the mobile device the img tracker takes. Or do you will explain me that Trafficshop is specialized for Mobile users that block JavaScript and dont load Images? :-) And we talk about a country with mostly flat mobile usage.
BTW 8 other Advertising companies are 0-3% away from our Stats that seems legit.

I hope there is some technical Issue with the campaign.

@KlenTelaris
I don't talk about a few % we talk about 90%+ missing landings on our site :-) And with this high traffic lost it's impossible to get profit from it.

CurrentlySober 07-11-2014 10:05 AM

i lik mega-pooers...

fuzebox 07-11-2014 10:10 AM

A lot of places have trouble tracking redirects. One of the biggest issues with htaccess mobile redirects is that if someone is hotlinking your images, their mobile users will trigger a redirect on your end, resulting in a broken image on that site and a tracked mobile user who never saw anything on yours.

_Richard_ 07-11-2014 10:22 AM

Traffic Shop is good people!

~Ray 07-11-2014 10:39 AM

does your tracker work better with other traffic sellers? Are any of them close to 10% too?

xxxjay 07-11-2014 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20155174)
Traffic Shop is good people!

I honestly don't know them, I'm just lumping them up with all the people that stole content to get there traffic and now they're selling it back to you. The snake seems to be eating it's own tail.

edgeprod 07-11-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa_trafficshop (Post 20154909)
Hey, we are not ripping off people, not our style of business. But if something went wrong with your campaigns we will find out. Hit me up on icq with your account name.

You're so hot, you could scam me anytime. :thumbsup

_Richard_ 07-11-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20155359)
You're so hot, you could scam me anytime. :thumbsup

me too :( she's a great dancer! i think anyway, mostly i was all :pimp

edgeprod 07-11-2014 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20155367)
me too :( she's a great dancer! i think anyway, mostly i was all :pimp

Haha, right? :1orglaugh

Zeiss 07-11-2014 02:29 PM

Never had that problem... Maybe your tracker sucks..

ravo 07-12-2014 05:20 AM

I've never had a problem with TrafficShop - they are good people (and this is speaking as one of their competitors).

NewOldPlayer 07-12-2014 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megapower (Post 20154900)
We have created a test campaign on Trafficshop filtered by Country, Mobile and Carrier they show us 400+ delivered and charged Hits our tracking tool list 32 hits.

We buy from near all advertising companies but nowhere I see a difference of 90%+ all others are 0-3% (except Traffic holder who is around 10%).

As Trafficshop is here actively promoted, is this a known scam of them or do they have some technical Issues?

I went to war with Trafficshop well over a year ago. After buying tons of skim traffic, I noticed my hit counts were way off. I ran some simple tests, and each test I purchased 1000 hits, and my hit counter would show 800 to 850 hits received. I ran multiple tests, with 2 different hit counters on 2 different pages and got almost the same results. Sometimes I would get close to 900 hits. But still, when you buy large volumes, that shave adds up quick. On very large orders I noticed 700 to 750 hits received per 1000 ordered. And of course, it would always show 1000 hits sent on their page.

I sent screen shots of all the evidence and I got the same dam reply every time, "Please install your hit counter at the top of the page to make sure it is working properly and counting every hit." Un fucking real. One time they said it was my counter's fault. I even contacted the counter creator from their site (stat counter) and the tech said there was no way their counter would "miss a few hits." It's impossible.

I ran more tests, put the counter at the top of the food chain, and nothing changed. I gave up. BTW, the landing page was a simple page, small, with small pics, super easy to load for surfers. Stat counter said no way somebody could visit the page and the counter wouldn't count it. Even if the surfer left after a 1/100 of a second.

Those fuckers at Traffic Shop are 100% skimming traffic orders. As the market declines, all the thieves start to emerge, stealing and shaving anything they can in order to make a profit. I doubt now if any of their traffic is even real. It's probably all bots by now set up in a sophisticated IP network all done with proxy servers. But hard to prove.

Fuck any broker that sells skim traffic. You don't know what you are getting, even if the IP says "USA" I personally think all the hits are coming from China and sent via proxy so the IPs are changed. You can buy 1000 China hits for about ten cents wholesale, that's where the money is in traffic brokering.

Zeiss 07-12-2014 09:04 AM

The most reliable "counters" are sever logs. Stop bitching around...

edgeprod 07-12-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 20156006)
The most reliable "counters" are sever logs. Stop bitching around...

Holy shit, right?

J. Falcon 07-12-2014 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 20154946)
Oh, and Traffic Shop is the best broker out there right now with two very close seconds

I second that. It's the main traffic broker we use; been using them for years.

Zeiss 07-12-2014 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20156029)
Holy shit, right?

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_ima...cking_shit.jpg

Klen 07-12-2014 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 20156006)
The most reliable "counters" are sever logs. Stop bitching around...

Heyyyyyyyy i wanted to say that.But if people leave trafficshop due this thread,better for me as then it will be less bidding competition.

Zeiss 07-12-2014 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20156052)
Heyyyyyyyy i wanted to say that.But if people leave trafficshop due this thread,better for me as then it will be less bidding competition.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

DBS.US 07-12-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 20154967)
Yep, the amount of Child Porn sites in Traffic Holder is appalling, not to mention its been going on for years now and they never have tried to stop it.

https://tips.fbi.gov

CPA-Rush 07-13-2014 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 20156049)

:repuke:throwup :thumbsup

NatalieMojoHost 07-14-2014 06:58 AM

TrafficShop is a good honest company.

seolinker 07-14-2014 09:03 AM

How people make skimming traffic work for example to dating sites ? Via lander ? That still wasn't worked for me

Klen 07-14-2014 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seolinker (Post 20157894)
How people make skimming traffic work for example to dating sites ? Via lander ? That still wasn't worked for me

Well there used to be some guy which was bragging how he spent 25k$ on trafficshop by sending traffic to it's own site so maybe that is a trick,to have your own dating site where you have full control over content and landing page.

ravo 07-14-2014 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seolinker (Post 20157894)
How people make skimming traffic work for example to dating sites ? Via lander ? That still wasn't worked for me

Many of our dating site customers send traffic to a special landing page, built for skimmed traffic. It's all about meeting the visitors' expectations, and giving them what they would anticipate seeing. You need to lead them to action...

Klen 07-14-2014 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo (Post 20157951)
Many of our dating site customers send traffic to a special landing page, built for skimmed traffic. It's all about meeting the visitors' expectations, and giving them what they would anticipate seeing. You need to lead them to action...

Yes i saw nice example where pornhub made a landing page for such traffic,and it called it "curated pick of videos"

edgeprod 07-14-2014 10:23 AM

Back to the more important topic: Alisya is pretty hot.

LeRoy 07-14-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20155359)
You're so hot, you could scam me anytime. :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20155367)
me too :( she's a great dancer! i think anyway, mostly i was all :pimp

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lisa_trafficshop 07-15-2014 01:06 AM

Hey, guys, thank you for your feedback! As i mentioned we are glad to look into each single case as long as there is enough information coming from the buyer (server logs included)

Lisa_trafficshop 07-15-2014 01:14 AM

Richard, EdgeProd, let's rock it once again very soon! Amsterdam and then Vegas :)

lock 07-15-2014 04:32 AM

Traffic shop actually sent me personal email to let me know my affiliate links were wrong on a few sites even though it had no effect on them so want a reference. I call them honest.

edgeprod 07-15-2014 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa_trafficshop (Post 20158661)
Richard, EdgeProd, let's rock it once again very soon! Amsterdam and then Vegas :)

You know it. Chris is buying! :1orglaugh

megapower 07-15-2014 01:05 PM

update:
We take the time do deeper look whats going on here. We extracted stats from Proxy server Logs.
The good news is we found some more hits (not the one we ordered), we're at around 75% regarding their Stats.
BUT we still got only 10% Traffic that meet our Carrier Filter (this traffic ask for $10+ CPM Popunder).

Now the question is: does Trafficshop send all Country Traffic as they use wonrg Carrier IP Ranges trough a mistake?

If yes, dear Traffic Shop please set correct IP Ranges for Mobile Carriers in Switzerland.

Anyway the first place on my "bad" Traffic List now takes Air Push... we fitlered by Swiss Mobile Carrier 3G/4G but 80% of Requests have IP's from India (50'000+ clicks by 3 same IP's from India, all with different User Agents) - biggest Shit I ever seen. The Customer Care of Air Push don't answer whats going on there. Probably they are a victim of Android Apps that simulate UID/Location/Network/Carrier.

_Richard_ 07-15-2014 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa_trafficshop (Post 20158661)
Richard, EdgeProd, let's rock it once again very soon! Amsterdam and then Vegas :)

http://i.imgur.com/x6Twkyl.gif

Klen 07-15-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megapower (Post 20159313)
update:
We take the time do deeper look whats going on here. We extracted stats from Proxy server Logs.
The good news is we found some more hits (not the one we ordered), we're at around 75% regarding their Stats.
BUT we still got only 10% Traffic that meet our Carrier Filter (this traffic ask for $10+ CPM Popunder).

Now the question is: does Trafficshop send all Country Traffic as they use wonrg Carrier IP Ranges trough a mistake?

If yes, dear Traffic Shop please set correct IP Ranges for Mobile Carriers in Switzerland.

Anyway the first place on my "bad" Traffic List now takes Air Push... we fitlered by Swiss Mobile Carrier 3G/4G but 80% of Requests have IP's from India (50'000+ clicks by 3 same IP's from India, all with different User Agents) - biggest Shit I ever seen. The Customer Care of Air Push don't answer whats going on there. Probably they are a victim of Android Apps that simulate UID/Location/Network/Carrier.

I think when it comes to specific carrier traffic,there is simply toosmall volume avalaible.

megapower 07-15-2014 02:25 PM

@KlenTelaris
But this should be not a reason to sell non Carrier Traffic for Premium prices. And if someone pay CPM of $5 - $50 he should get what he want.


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