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Sly 07-01-2014 12:47 PM

What I've learned watching the World Cup...
 
Europe doesn't like immigrants... unless they play futbol!

mineistaken 07-01-2014 12:48 PM

Yes, that is disgrace.
FIFA's disgrace, countries disgrace. It is supposed to be country vs country, not club style competition when you hire whoever.

Klen 07-01-2014 12:53 PM

Yes just look on swiss,they have maybe like 5 players which are swiss,meaning born in swiss and having swiss parents,all other are from somewhere else.

mineistaken 07-01-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20143928)
Yes just look on swiss,they have maybe like 5 players which are swiss,meaning born in swiss and having swiss parents,all other are from somewhere else.

Disgrace...

MaDalton 07-01-2014 12:59 PM

but what about people born to immigrants that are legal citizens from birth?

or would you go german pre-1945 style and demand the "Arier Nachweis"?

;)

oppoten 07-01-2014 01:06 PM

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...mmigration-cup

Klen 07-01-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20143941)
but what about people born to immigrants that are legal citizens from birth?

or would you go german pre-1945 style and demand the "Arier Nachweis"?

;)

I wouldn't demand,but still it look so silly.Curious how Swiss would perform with having actual swiss players.And another funny thing,maybe this is because Swiss used to be mercenary nation so they play reverse role now.

mineistaken 07-01-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20143941)
but what about people born to immigrants that are legal citizens from birth?

or would you go german pre-1945 style and demand the "Arier Nachweis"?

;)

In the case os Swiss, they have 5 or 6 foreign born.
But yeah, I would agree on 45 style. If you are African couple and you come to Switzerland, have babies, that baby is still African, not Swiss.

The Porn Nerd 07-01-2014 01:18 PM

What I've learned watching the World Cup: the rest of the world has a pretty low standard as to what will amuse them for hours.

baddog 07-01-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20143973)
What I've learned watching the World Cup: the rest of the world has a pretty low standard as to what will amuse them for hours.

:1orglaugh

mineistaken 07-01-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20143973)
What I've learned watching the World Cup: the rest of the world has a pretty low standard as to what will amuse them for hours.

Says the guy who claims baseball, golf and all olympic sports are less boring :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MaDalton 07-01-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20143963)
In the case os Swiss, they have 5 or 6 foreign born.
But yeah, I would agree on 45 style. If you are African couple and you come to Switzerland, have babies, that baby is still African, not Swiss.

and 2-3 generations later?

maybe one parent being of foreign decent and the other being local?

there is no easy answer to this - you either go by passport or you go nazi-style

and i'm not up for the latter

it just becomes a bit comical when you push through immigration for someone who might have had a grandfather or something like that of said nation while normal people have to wait years for their passport

mineistaken 07-01-2014 01:33 PM

http://img.qz.com/2014/06/foreign-bo...der2.png?w=595

MaDalton 07-01-2014 01:38 PM

maybe it makes you more happy when they do teams with the same skin, hair and eye color instead...

mineistaken 07-01-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20144002)
maybe it makes you more happy when they do teams with the same skin, hair and eye color instead...

It makes me happy when teams play fair. This is nation VS nation, not club VS club.
And do not insinuate any bullshit about colors as this has nothing to do with it. For example Germany has at least two Polish dudes of the same color as Germans, so... Do not look for scandal.

slapass 07-01-2014 01:46 PM

I have to say that female soccer fans are hotter then other sports.

Ad-Min 07-01-2014 01:54 PM

so Amerindians should play for USA?

MaDalton 07-01-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ad-Min (Post 20144030)
so Amerindians should play for USA?

i wonder how many natives are in the current US team

seeandsee 07-01-2014 02:13 PM

Who cares, it's all biz now

slapass 07-01-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20143917)
Europe doesn't like immigrants... unless they play futbol!

Also how amazing would the African teams be if the players all payed for their national team? The Italian striker was from Ghana. The Spanish striker was from Brazil. Etc.

Klen 07-01-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20144055)
Also how amazing would the African teams be if the players all payed for their national team? The Italian striker was from Ghana. The Spanish striker was from Brazil. Etc.

Having a one or two foreign player is ok but when majority of team is composed of foreigners it makes you wonder who is crazy here

Ad-Min 07-01-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20144057)
Having a one or two foreign player is ok but when majority of team is composed of foreigners it makes you wonder who is crazy here

I think you are, this has nothing to do with imigration (OP), it has something to do with integration and where you get the best opportunity for your life ($+LifeStyle+belief)!
Imagine, there are 5 top foreign players (they are citizen but parents are from Ghana,Italy,Croatia,Brazil and who knows where from) in your country, why would you punish them and don't let them play FOR your country?
They are idols, pay tax, are against drugs...IMO they deserve to play like any other native players!
With that said, the team (Country) wants foreign players because they have no problem with identify themself with foreign players!
I think the immigration problem starts with people that don't want to integrate, they got troubles with citizens!
Most foreign players are idols, they live integration and that is the key!
But after all, seeandsee said it, it is all biz now!

Sly 07-01-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20144055)
Also how amazing would the African teams be if the players all payed for their national team? The Italian striker was from Ghana. The Spanish striker was from Brazil. Etc.

I don't know if there is an answer. Olympics are very similar. You'll have an athlete from some remote African country training their whole life in the United States, or France, or wherever, then they go home to represent their birth country or maybe even represent their new country, depending on what they choose.

As the world grows smaller, will there be different countries to represent?

MaDalton 07-01-2014 03:01 PM

When you use Balotelli as example: he is born in Italy, he grew up in Italy, he has an italian passport... will you go tell him to play for Ghana because he's black or because his (original) parents once came from there? Thats absurd.

MrBottomTooth 07-01-2014 03:08 PM

Sounds like hockey. How many Canadians were on the la kings?

Ad-Min 07-01-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20144111)
When you use Balotelli as example: he is born in Italy, he grew up in Italy, he has an italian passport... will you go tell him to play for Ghana because he's black or because his (original) parents once came from there? Thats absurd.

100% true, if you don't let him play then you punish him and reduce him to his color and origin and that is racism!
It is not his fault that his parents or grandparents came to that country (Balotelli is a different story)!

Ad-Min 07-01-2014 03:10 PM

oh, by the way, go USA, it is not too late!!

dehash 07-01-2014 03:33 PM

Don't worry, as per Darwin and Bible we are all relatives.

dyna mo 07-01-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ad-Min (Post 20144030)
so Amerindians should play for USA?

they wee immigrants as well. Not to mention most, 99%, were dead before the USA was the USA/country.

RazorSharpe 07-01-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20144002)
maybe it makes you more happy when they do teams with the same skin, hair and eye color instead...

Not sure what you are trying to achieve with this bigot! He's quite possibly one of the most ignorant people trying to persuade people around him that he's clever, that I have ever come across on this board.

mineistaken 07-01-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20144164)
Not sure what you are trying to achieve with this bigot! He's quite possibly one of the most ignorant people trying to persuade people around him that he's clever, that I have ever come across on this board.

Sorry, mate.

MaDalton 07-01-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20144164)
Not sure what you are trying to achieve with this bigot! He's quite possibly one of the most ignorant people trying to persuade people around him that he's clever, that I have ever come across on this board.

dunno - i've been arguing with racists since i'm 12 or so...

mineistaken 07-01-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20144176)
dunno - i've been arguing with racists since i'm 12 or so...

Are you calling me a racist? You must be kidding me.
How is that related to race? Swiss has players from white countries such as Croat and other Balkan players. Germany has Polish players. How the fuck the fact that I am against foreigners makes me racist?
You liberal disgraces see racism everywhere where topic even remotely involves people from other races...

mineistaken 07-01-2014 04:04 PM

If you called me nationalist, that would be going the right direction. Yes, I am against one country world and pro different countries with their own identity.

RazorSharpe 07-01-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20143973)
What I've learned watching the World Cup: the rest of the world has a pretty low standard as to what will amuse them for hours.

And yet, we find it hard to be amused by your inability to understand a simple sport ... go figure

MaDalton 07-01-2014 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20144181)
If you called me nationalist, that would be going the right direction. Yes, I am against one country world and pro different countries with their own identity.

ok, sorry, i'll call you a nationalist then :2 cents:

for me an equally absurd way of thinking anyways

RazorSharpe 07-01-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20144181)
If you called me nationalist, that would be going the right direction. Yes, I am against one country world and pro different countries with their own identity.

So why exactly do YOU not want to share the same space with someone who is not indigenous to your country? This is a serious question since many other posts I have seen from you paint you out to be quite racist.

CyberHustler 07-01-2014 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20143963)
In the case os Swiss, they have 5 or 6 foreign born.
But yeah, I would agree on 45 style. If you are African couple and you come to Switzerland, have babies, that baby is still African, not Swiss.

Wildest shit I read in while

mineistaken 07-01-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20144204)
So why exactly do YOU not want to share the same space with someone who is not indigenous to your country? This is a serious question since many other posts I have seen from you paint you out to be quite racist.

I am not against any people from any race. All people are equal to me despite their color. That is as clear as I can say. And I have never said anything that implies otherwise.
This is a problem of liberals and guilters - they see something posted about arabs or africans and they automatically claim racism :1orglaugh Quite ignorant and brainwashed thinking.
Most of my posts are against double standards.
For example:
When blacks says "I voted for Obama because I am black" it is all good and calm.
Imagine that same thing said by a white man - media outburst, bashing and so on.
Double standards. I call on it.

Another example:
In most us states there are sentence enhancements for white on black hate crimes.
There are no such enhancements for black on white hate crimes.
Double standards (against in favor of blacks) - I call on that.

Another example:
Some white GFY'ers were not accepted by fire department in US because they were white. Yes, black people with LOWER scores were accepted instead of them with HIGHER scores just because they were black. OFFICIAL discrimination against whites. Again - OFFICIAL. And nobody cares about this anti white racism.
I call on that.

And so on and on. Double standards and anti white agenda at its finest. These are just few of the many examples of what is happening. So I call on that. Not sure how does it make me racist.
To be honest only a moron or brainwashed liberal scum could see my posts as racist while in fact they are FOR EQUALITY and AGAINST DOUBLE STANDARDS.

So in fact even liberal scum are more racist than I am because they are anti white and I am for equality.

Now to answer your question - I like when countries have own identity. Like Pakistan is Pakistani people, UK is British people and Nigeria is African people. I do not want to see all countries losing their identity. Like Britain with minority of Britons and Nigeria with minority with Nigerians. So that is why I am anti "one country" world.
And again - only a moron could call that racist because I have this sentiment towards any country - white, brown or black.
As simple as that.

Dvae 07-01-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20143973)
What I've learned watching the World Cup: the rest of the world has a pretty low standard as to what will amuse them for hours.

...and still 13 days to go. Thats a lot of hours.

Please make it stop!

dyna mo 07-01-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20144280)
...and still 13 days to go. Thats a lot of hours.

Please make it stop!

and the anti-americans think football games are stretched out!

I see.


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