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Grapesoda 07-01-2014 09:48 AM

the ugly truth about slavery
 

VikingMan 07-01-2014 10:39 AM

Real slavery still exists but the lovely people in the media do not want really care to expose it. They just keep making movies about how evil white people are because of what plantation owners did in the USA. I am fine with making movies about what happened in the USA which I agree was inexcusable but you would think the focus would be on STOPPING slavery that is happening right now. But of course it is not the RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE enslaving people at the moment so no want or need to demonize them.

L-Pink 07-01-2014 10:41 AM

Interesting video.

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20143734)
Interesting video.

4.4% of blacks sent to north America while almost 1/2 the population of Ireland was sold off.... very interesting... also interesting the black/white mix is Irish and African slaves .. not the master banging the maids.. 1.4% of whites had slaves while 34%? freed blacks had slaves... very interesting video as you say :2 cents:

PR_Glen 07-01-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20143732)
Real slavery still exists but the lovely people in the media do not want really care to expose it. They just keep making movies about how evil white people are because of what plantation owners did in the USA. I am fine with making movies about what happened in the USA which I agree was inexcusable but you would think the focus would be on STOPPING slavery that is happening right now. But of course it is not the RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE enslaving people at the moment so no want or need to demonize them.

is there human trafficking coming in hoards by the thousands and used in an open slave market? no, then no you can't compare the two...

Caldo 07-01-2014 12:04 PM

Thanks for this great post ! Everyone should know this !

Captain Kawaii 07-01-2014 12:04 PM

I read some of the plantation records maintained by my family in early 1700's. They tried using Irish, funny, we are Irish as well, but the Irish being sent were weak and or drunken and lazy. Also, not made for Georgia and South Carolina heat. He regretted making the switch but had no choice. Once productivity shot through the roof because Africans were stronger and prepared for the environment there was no turning back.

Interesting how slaves in turn bought slaves. People were chattle. People are chattle today just not owned but enslaved by debt and a system bent on keeping them that way.
:2 cents:

mineistaken 07-01-2014 12:13 PM

Liberal, anti white and white guilter scum rules the media and enforces double standards.

Example:

In Dubai they have slaves even now, they are locked in the country so they MUST work as they can not leave. And wages are bellow minimum. Nobody cares because it is not whites who enslaved them.

rogueteens 07-01-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20143830)
is there human trafficking coming in hoards by the thousands and used in an open slave market? no, then no you can't compare the two...

what? So you mean that there is good slavery and bad slavery?

mineistaken 07-01-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20143890)
what? So you mean that there is good slavery and bad slavery?

Yep, bad is the one where whites are involved in doing it. And less bad when otherwise.
White guilter disgrace :)

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20143844)
I read some of the plantation records maintained by my family in early 1700's. They tried using Irish, funny, we are Irish as well, but the Irish being sent were weak and or drunken and lazy. Also, not made for Georgia and South Carolina heat. He regretted making the switch but had no choice. Once productivity shot through the roof because Africans were stronger and prepared for the environment there was no turning back.

Interesting how slaves in turn bought slaves. People were chattle. People are chattle today just not owned but enslaved by debt and a system bent on keeping them that way.
:2 cents:

black slaves cost 10x as much so the Irish were used for the dangerous work ... and it was big business that instituted slavery... it was against the law to set a slave free and they also made the whites go on patrol looking for runaways and other misbehaving slave for no pay as a 'civic duty' ... lot's of bullshit involved for sure...

Cherry7 07-01-2014 02:59 PM

For people who can't read it is really useful to have some one read to you.

Even if he is a right wing nutter.

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20144109)
For people who can't read it is really useful to have some one read to you.

Even if he is a right wing nutter.

so facts change according to political views... thanks :thumbsup

dyna mo 07-01-2014 03:33 PM

I'll wait for the pretty truth about slavery video. :-)

mineistaken 07-01-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20144155)
I'll wait for the pretty truth about slavery video. :-)

Pretty true:
Whites are bad slave owners, other races poor victims.
:2 cents:

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20144155)
I'll wait for the pretty truth about slavery video. :-)

pretty interesting stuff...

vegasbobby 07-01-2014 06:49 PM

Some of what this guy talks about happen over 400 years ago. All races had salves.

But here is something important about us in American. Over 640,000 soldiers died or wounded to end slavery. A new party was found on the idea to end it. And another 390,000 died trying to keep it. 2,000,000 Union soldiers won the war. And one of our greatest presidents died over it.

http://www.swords-to-plowshares.org/...k-soldiers.jpg
See this pic, they where freemen. and willing to kill to stay they way.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...veFree1821.gif
80 years before the war there was free states. So for more then 200 years in this country there was people fighting slavery. Later they where called the Union army or, Republicans.

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegasbobby (Post 20144322)
Some of what this guy talks about happen over 400 years ago. All races had salves.

But here is something important about us in American. Over 640,000 soldiers died or wounded to end slavery. A new party was found on the idea to end it. And another 390,000 died trying to keep it. 2,000,000 Union soldiers won the war. And one of our greatest presidents died over it.

http://www.swords-to-plowshares.org/...k-soldiers.jpg
See this pic, they where freemen. and willing to kill to stay they way.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...veFree1821.gif
80 years before the war there was free states. So for more then 200 years in this country there was people fighting slavery. Later they where called the Union army or, Republicans.

FYI blacks fought for the south as well http://www.scv.org/documents/genwork...derateArmy.pdf

vegasbobby 07-01-2014 09:50 PM

from what I've read about the Civil War the majority of any slave that was in the Civil War action on the south. Mostly were servants. I haven't read any where were they were actually soldiers., but considering if they were slaves. I'm sure they weren't Freemen on the battlefield.

But you're missing my point. Millions of people in this country were involved in ending slavery. at least a million people died on the battlefield. we know Abraham Lincoln got shot. Because of his role in the Civil War. but don't think I don't get your point. Liberals progressives love to try to score points by saying the country is racist. Here's a surprising fact up until the 1960's the Democrat Party with support from the KKK. Were the ones who put the Jim Crow laws in effect. they were upset that they had lost the Civil War and couldn't have slaves anymore. And it took up until the 1960s they had to finally give up their ideas of blacks. it's kind of ironic. many of the progressives try to say that the parties switch sides. Course that's a lie. Democrats finally had to abandon the idea that they could gain votes by being such a racist. they're full of such shame. they tried to hide it. But the philosophy is still the same even in Europe. a left wing progressive is the same here and over there. But they just having one here completely yet

DerekMister33 07-02-2014 08:26 PM

I still can't believe how recent slavery in the US (particularly the south) was prominent. Seems like it wasn't that long ago!

kane 07-02-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20144168)
Pretty true:
Whites are bad slave owners, other races poor victims.
:2 cents:

I would argue that in the US the attitude is more: US slavery was bad and is now gone. Slavery outside the US is mostly out of sight therefor out of mind and we don't care.

Just Alex 07-02-2014 08:57 PM

The ugly truth is that it fucked all of us over in a long run. If it wasn't for slavery, we would have this prison population and ghettos in every big city.

Amputate Your Head 07-02-2014 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20144168)
Pretty true:
Whites are bad slave owners, other races poor victims.
:2 cents:

Fact #1: Blacks were sold into slavery to Whites by their own kind. Other blacks.
Fact #2: It was the Whites that ENDED slavery in the US.
Fact #3: All races have experienced slavery.

DerekMister33 07-04-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20145770)
The ugly truth is that it fucked all of us over in a long run. If it wasn't for slavery, we would have this prison population and ghettos in every big city.

Interesting perspective. :1orglaugh


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