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wehateporn 05-18-2014 06:07 AM

6 Months Jail for Anti-Semitic Posts on the Internet
 
On this basis some GFYers might be in jail soon. I wonder if it still 'OK' to hate Blacks, Gypsies and Muslims, surely there needs to be consistency here. :2 cents:

Geneva justice condemns anti-Semitic remarks on the internet

http://translate.google.com/translat...26channel%3Dsb

"Immediate release
The public prosecutor had requested four months in prison. The judges gave a custodial sentence of six months, but have suspended it for three years. They did not accept extenuating circumstances.

"The facts are very serious. You erect a victim and you reverse the roles," he told the president warned. However, the judge hopes that the man who has done 55 days of detention will take note of the judgment and it will stick. His immediate release was ordered.

A symbolic franc moral damages

Accordance with the wishes of the complainants, the accused must pay them a token sum for non-pecuniary damage. It will also pay defense costs and procedure and a fine of 200 francs. His lawyer does not know yet if his client intends to use against this judgment."

Rochard 05-18-2014 08:23 AM

I don't hate anyone. I don't hate any group, race, or religion. I don't care what people do in the bedroom because it can't be as freaky as what I do.

I believe that everyone has rights. Everyone should have the right to worship whatever god they wish, and that everyone should be able to get an education. However, if your religion comes into conflict with such basic human rights, we have some issues. Violence against women and children is never acceptable.

armysmoke 05-18-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20090807)
I don't hate anyone. I don't hate any group, race, or religion. I don't care what people do in the bedroom because it can't be as freaky as what I do.

I believe that everyone has rights. Everyone should have the right to worship whatever god they wish, and that everyone should be able to get an education. However, if your religion comes into conflict with such basic human rights, we have some issues. Violence against women and children is never acceptable.

Completed agree. :thumbsup

brassmonkey 05-18-2014 08:38 AM

there are racist on here that can get away with slurs. real life they would be 6 feet... no need for law dealt with on street level :2 cents::2 cents:

suesheboy 05-18-2014 10:05 AM

I hate people individually not groups.

Captain Kawaii 05-18-2014 11:19 AM

Ironic coming from the Suisse! :1orglaugh

deltav 05-18-2014 11:35 AM

Personally I've always felt GFY could do without some of the racist noise that pops up here on a daily basis. I belong to plenty of other quality forums where that crap is moderated out (and partially just enforced by other posters) and they don't seem to suffer from any authoritarian crushing of free speech.

GFY is a private venue and ultimately it's up to the mods of course, but IMO it would be a better place. So many hateful and bitter people on here full of grudges, it's kinda depressing.

Captain Kawaii 05-18-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20090807)
I don't hate anyone. I don't hate any group, race, or religion. I don't care what people do in the bedroom because it can't be as freaky as what I do.

I believe that everyone has rights. Everyone should have the right to worship whatever god they wish, and that everyone should be able to get an education. However, if your religion comes into conflict with such basic human rights, we have some issues. Violence against women and children is never acceptable.

I agree 100%. I wish people would come to terms with the fact there is no master race.

escorpio 05-18-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20090818)
there are racist on here that can get away with slurs. real life they would be 6 feet... no need for law dealt with on street level :2 cents::2 cents:

Feeling that every perceived slight requires a violent reaction is one of the reasons there are so many negroes in prison.

Just Alex 05-18-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 20091184)
Feeling that every perceived slight requires a violent reaction is one of the reasons there are so many negroes in prison.

Not this one. He had his chance at Phoenix Forum. But big gangsta dawg was too busy selling shoes at the mall :1orglaugh

notinmybackyard 05-18-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20090818)
there are racist on here that can get away with slurs. real life they would be 6 feet... no need for law dealt with on street level :2 cents::2 cents:

And there is the real problem. The little mouth pieces on the Internet would learn manners and the consequences of their actions if it was on the street. But tucked away in their little homes with no one to see them they decide they can be assholes.

Personally I personally I think more should be done to teach these creeps a lesson. Perhaps someone should figure out how to monetize going after internet douchebags.

brassmonkey 05-18-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 20091296)
And there is the real problem. The little mouth pieces on the Internet would learn manners and the consequences of their actions if it was on the street. But tucked away in their little homes with no one to see them they decide they can be assholes.

Personally I personally I think more should be done to teach these creeps a lesson. Perhaps someone should figure out how to monetize going after internet douchebags.


the two above you banned for racial slurs. never called them anything yet they want to go there. :Oh crap stalker racial trolls.

nico-t 05-19-2014 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20090954)
Personally I've always felt GFY could do without some of the racist noise that pops up here on a daily basis. I belong to plenty of other quality forums where that crap is moderated out (and partially just enforced by other posters) and they don't seem to suffer from any authoritarian crushing of free speech.

GFY is a private venue and ultimately it's up to the mods of course, but IMO it would be a better place. So many hateful and bitter people on here full of grudges, it's kinda depressing.

you can categorize 99% of the so called racism on this board as forms of humor - it's used alot to rile someone up, just to get a reaction. I never seen anyone on this forum who I would categorise as a real racist. Maybe grow some thicker skin instead of calling for petty rules, because any authority acting as your mother protecting you from the outside world is not the real world.

escorpio 05-19-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20091305)
the two above you banned for racial slurs. never called them anything yet they want to go there. :Oh crap stalker racial trolls.

Suck a dick, Rufus. I have never been banned for racial slurs. You, on the other hand have called me a "frijolero" (beaner). I didn't cry to the mods like a little bitch. That's your style.

seeandsee 05-19-2014 09:22 AM

free internet and free speach

sperbonzo 05-19-2014 09:33 AM

As a Jew I have to say that I'm COMPLETELY against this. There is no way that speech should be against the law, no matter how stupid or hateful. Making anti-semitic, or holocaust-denial speech specifically against the law is an even worse idea. It simply makes Jews in the EU seem somehow worthy of a higher level of protection, and causes more resentment against Jews over there. I just pray that this kind of stupid anti-free speech laws do not come to the US.





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Klen 05-19-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20091847)
As a Jew I have to say that I'm COMPLETELY against this. There is no way that speech should be against the law, no matter how stupid or hateful. Making anti-semitic, or holocaust-denial speech specifically against the law is an even worse idea. It simply makes Jews in the EU seem somehow worthy of a higher level of protection, and causes more resentment against Jews over there. I just pray that this kind of stupid anti-free speech laws do not come to the US.





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Perhaps instead jail time better penalty would be to carry a banner in public with words like "i am stupid ass which denies holocaust" :)

escorpio 05-19-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20091859)
Perhaps instead jail time better penalty would be to carry a banner in public with words like "i am stupid ass which denies holocaust" :)

:thumbsup We should build special camps to send people that disagree with us.

deltav 05-19-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20091384)
you can categorize 99% of the so called racism on this board as forms of humor - it's used alot to rile someone up, just to get a reaction. I never seen anyone on this forum who I would categorise as a real racist. Maybe grow some thicker skin instead of calling for petty rules, because any authority acting as your mother protecting you from the outside world is not the real world.

Come on man, if I had thin skin I wouldn't even be here. Thing is, this ain't the "real world" - it's a privately owned online business forum where the owners/mods can and do implement whatever rules they want. GFY is indeed unique for a business forum in that they allow a pretty huge range of non-business related (and arguably unprofessional) stuff, though when certain lines are crossed they do indeed bring the hammer down quick.

Not really a big deal anyhow, my point was more that when times were good in the biz all the endless shit talking and trolling was kind of funny. Now that times are a little more grim for many it just comes across a little bit pathetic. Again, lotta bitter folks. Maybe I'm in the minority thinking that. Just my opinion, it is what it is....

pornmasta 05-19-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20091847)
As a Jew I have to say that I'm COMPLETELY against this. There is no way that speech should be against the law, no matter how stupid or hateful. Making anti-semitic, or holocaust-denial speech specifically against the law is an even worse idea. It simply makes Jews in the EU seem somehow worthy of a higher level of protection, and causes more resentment against Jews over there. I just pray that this kind of stupid anti-free speech laws do not come to the US.


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now wrote the same idea here and you are already labeled as antisemit

Just Alex 05-19-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 20091826)
Suck a dick, Rufus. I have never been banned for racial slurs. You, on the other hand have called me a "frijolero" (beaner). I didn't cry to the mods like a little bitch. That's your style.

He's the BIGGEST crybaby and snitch on this board. Had Eric on speed dial until got uber bitch slapped crying over Duke's comments :1orglaugh
DeMarcus, so what DID you say to Duke at Phoenix Show. We all know you were there with your 404 street gang bros, right? :1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 05-20-2014 02:24 AM

Freedom of speech or expression? What's that?

http://news.msn.com/pop-culture/mack...ensive-costume

There's no double standard here...we are all local people!

druid66 05-20-2014 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20091169)
I agree 100%. I wish people would come to terms with the fact there is no master race.

actually i believe that japanese are a bit better and advanced than any other race, they work harder, they are inventive and japan always appears to me as a country from the future (talking about cities) means: technologically much more advanced than rest of the world andsince we are living in technological world they are on very top.

my2c

Captain Kawaii 05-20-2014 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by druid66 (Post 20092945)
actually i believe that japanese are a bit better and advanced than any other race, they work harder, they are inventive and japan always appears to me as a country from the future (talking about cities) means: technologically much more advanced than rest of the world andsince we are living in technological world they are on very top.

my2c

I totally understand and agree with you. I just wish the under 25 crowd here would put down their damn iphone for a second and do something. :1orglaugh

Almost daily there are HIA's on the train lines (human involved accidents) which almost always used to mean 'suicide'. Now its a question of whether the idiot walked off the platform while checking their mail. In the street, they are glued to them. When I see one coming in my direction I stop and wait to see if they will run into me. I usually make a sudden noise at last second. Scares the shit out of and embarrasses them. for a second or less.

It is an amazingly high tech city/country and I love it. Wish I came 20 years ago.

Tam 05-20-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20090807)
I don't hate anyone. I don't hate any group, race, or religion. I don't care what people do in the bedroom because it can't be as freaky as what I do.

I believe that everyone has rights. Everyone should have the right to worship whatever god they wish, and that everyone should be able to get an education. However, if your religion comes into conflict with such basic human rights, we have some issues. Violence against women and children is never acceptable.

That's how I am, I always tell people I am the least judgmental and/ racist they'll ever meet - let them do as they please as long as what they believe isn't hurting anyone else, that's when it crosses a line. When you strike at a group of people, women, children, men or whatever, over what they believe in or color of their skin or anything, that is then crossing lines to me...

I won't get into a big long discussion about this, just wanted to get that out there... I just don't like people who judge people based on anything other than their personal .... person. Judge by who that person is, not by what you think they represent based on something so silly as color of skin, sexual preference or whatever

DerKramer 05-20-2014 06:02 AM

Don't if high technology is always good

Rumbledog 05-20-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20091847)
As a Jew I have to say that I'm COMPLETELY against this. There is no way that speech should be against the law, no matter how stupid or hateful. Making anti-semitic, or holocaust-denial speech specifically against the law is an even worse idea. It simply makes Jews in the EU seem somehow worthy of a higher level of protection, and causes more resentment against Jews over there. I just pray that this kind of stupid anti-free speech laws do not come to the US.





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Here we have a very smart Jewish person.

I do not dislike Jews, because of race... and this just goes to show just how ignorant the world is really becoming.

I do not like the religions, especial Jews and Muslims for all the hate they spew against those who are not worshiping their god!

I know many American Jews and Muslims that are very nice people and hate the religion aspect of their culture as well.

Muslims and Jews are not a race..... It is religions and many people in the world abroad are so ignorant they are brainwashed into thinking they are a race.
They are both Arabic, both sides are from the middle east. Divided by fairy tales.

CarlosTheGaucho 05-20-2014 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20091847)
As a Jew I have to say that I'm COMPLETELY against this. There is no way that speech should be against the law, no matter how stupid or hateful. Making anti-semitic, or holocaust-denial speech specifically against the law is an even worse idea. It simply makes Jews in the EU seem somehow worthy of a higher level of protection, and causes more resentment against Jews over there. I just pray that this kind of stupid anti-free speech laws do not come to the US.





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:2 cents:

Well said!

DamianJ 05-20-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20090807)
Violence against women and children is never acceptable.

But violence against men is OK?

Why?

Rumbledog 05-20-2014 07:27 AM

Here is pure racism at its finest for ya delt out by interracial porn lover producers.

Seems to be ok to use the N word if it praises or benefits them.

http://www.xvideos.com/video1785757/...ing_the_n-word

Adam-clickpapa 05-21-2014 04:24 AM

i hate racism and i don't like hatespeech, but i think free speech is far more important to be restricted.

Barry-xlovecam 05-21-2014 05:21 AM

Freedom of speech is not absolute.

What value is gained by the espousing of some form of hate speech?

The Swiss Court's ruling might very well be applied toward anti-gay or nationalistic speech in demonization of another nation in prelude to hostilities or warfare.

The fact that this ruling is about antisemitism perhaps arouses the wrong emotions -- the subject matter should not be specific and limiting. Europe has their recent Nazi past to live with and that is what was probably behind the Swiss Court's ruling.

For those of you that think that free speech is absolute, that is a childish as reciting:
''Sticks and stones will break my bones
But words will never harm me."
Tell that to victims of genocide; Jews, Armenians, Tutsi and many others.

Adam-clickpapa 05-22-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20094310)
Freedom of speech is not absolute.

What value is gained by the espousing of some form of hate speech?

The Swiss Court's ruling might very well be applied toward anti-gay or nationalistic speech in demonization of another nation in prelude to hostilities or warfare.

The fact that this ruling is about antisemitism perhaps arouses the wrong emotions -- the subject matter should not be specific and limiting. Europe has their recent Nazi past to live with and that is what was probably behind the Swiss Court's ruling.

For those of you that think that free speech is absolute, that is a childish as reciting:
''Sticks and stones will break my bones
But words will never harm me."
Tell that to victims of genocide; Jews, Armenians, Tutsi and many others.

You may be true, but let me reverse your question. what real demage is caused by few people's unacceptable opinion? won't make any difference. society has to keep those people in quarantine, not the authorities. and i smell the stench of double standards here. telling hateful things about jewish people is strictly persecuted, while no one gives a shit about other minorities in this level.


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