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  • MrPopup
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    • Aug 2002
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    #1

    Hypothetical

    Can you repackage Windows XP and sell it as your own?

    Can I photocopy all the pages from Hustler and sell an abbreviated version with no ads?

    Can I legally tape a program, edit out the commericals and distribute it?

    Do you legally own a DVD in your DVD collection?

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    Don't get pissed at me, get pissed at the laws that say NO to all of the above.
    Last edited by MrPopup; 03-08-2003, 10:09 AM.
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  • Fletch XXX
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    • Jan 2002
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    #2
    What do these things have to do with your claims in the other thread?

    This is further proof as to you not having a clue.



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    • MrPopup
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      #3
      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
      What do these things have to do with your claims in the other thread?

      This is further proof as to you not having a clue.


      They don't.

      It's a different thread.

      Thats what MultiThreaded Messaging Systems like this are intended to do. Create "New" threads.

      I can send you some Internet 101 books if you want.

      Notice I've edited this thread?
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      • Fletch XXX
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        • Jan 2002
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        #4
        Yeah ok.

        Its obvious you didnt get your way in the other thread so you start another one.

        beyond obvious.

        keep stomping your feet, maybe youll get your way.

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        • Fletch XXX
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          • Jan 2002
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          #5
          this thread needs dancing chicken gifs.

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          • Fletch XXX
            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
            • Jan 2002
            • 60840

            #6
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            • MrPopup
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              #7
              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
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              A guy telling jokes to himself. He disses the thread and he can't even answer it.

              You still haven't answered the hypothetical questions above.

              Answer the questions...or don't whatever.

              But if you think the legal answer is YES to any of those you are mistaken.
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              • Fletch XXX
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                • Jan 2002
                • 60840

                #8
                Why answer a stupid question?

                yes you can repackage another persons product and sell it.

                hahah

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                • MrPopup
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                  Why answer a stupid question?

                  yes you can repackage another persons product and sell it.

                  hahah
                  touche

                  fucking touche

                  you rat.
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                  • cluck
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                    • Dec 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrPopup
                    Can you repackage Windows XP and sell it as your own?

                    Can I photocopy all the pages from Hustler and sell an abbreviated version with no ads?

                    Can I legally tape a program, edit out the commericals and distribute it?

                    Do you legally own a DVD in your DVD collection?

                    **************************************

                    Don't get pissed at me, get pissed at the government who says NO to all of the above.
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                    • X37375787

                      #11
                      fuck the dancing chicken ...

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                      • MrPopup
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by cluck


                        Can I save your layout, content and all your scripts and put it up on my own server?
                        That wasn't one of the questions I asked bro.
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                        • Fletch XXX
                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 60840

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Equinox
                          fuck the dancing chicken ...
                          'those dancing fuckers should all perish.'

                          the pig is gone.


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                          • cluck
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrPopup


                            That wasn't one of the questions I asked bro.
                            But what's the difference between that and distributing the TV show without commercials? What do you think is the only way that TV show generates revenue? Ads, the same as your site.

                            But hey, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I've got gigs of TV eps
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                            • MrPopup
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                              'those dancing fuckers should all perish.'

                              the pig is gone.

                              Do you remember the dancing soda cans that everyone had for awhile (or dancing plants or dancing whatever)

                              They were supposed to move with the music. Yah...right.
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                              • MrPopup
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by cluck


                                But what's the difference between that and distributing the TV show without commercials? What do you think is the only way that TV show generates revenue? Ads, the same as your site.

                                But hey, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I've got gigs of TV eps
                                And so do I. And I also am playing devils advocate which some of these pigfuckers just dont get.

                                But the point is, the law says it is illegal. Dont listen to me at all. Dont get mad at me. Get mad at the fucking laws that were passed that let this happen. Are you going to say "I thought it was legal"? Um, law enforcement doesnt care.

                                Watch what happens when those episodes of STRANGERS WITH CANDY on your hard drive makes you a "cyberterrorist" or a "cyberhacker". If you think the MPAA, and the RIAA arent lobbying for this to happen you have another thing coming.
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                                • cluck
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MrPopup


                                  And so do I. And I also am playing devils advocate which some of these pigfuckers just dont get.

                                  But the point is, the law says it is illegal.

                                  Watch what happens when those episodes of STRANGERS WITH CANDY on your hard drive makes you a "cyberterrorist" or a "cyberhacker". If you think the MPAA, and the RIAA arent lobbying for this to happen you have another thing coming.
                                  I'm sure they could already push for this if you have a dvdrip. They'd be able to claim that there is evidence that somewhere along the line DeCSS or something similar was used. As far as I know possession or use of DeCSS is illegal, and considered a hacking tool. Watch out for the feds

                                  I've been investigated by the feds for alot worse though, so eff them
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                                  • X37375787

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                    'those dancing fuckers should all perish.'

                                    the pig is gone.


                                    I know .... No worries, I'll find it... eventually...

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                                    • X37375787

                                      #19
                                      Speaking of which....


                                      [IMG]http://**********/pig.gif[/IMG]

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                                      • Fletch XXX
                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 60840

                                        #20
                                        alas the swine arise.

                                        so cometh the yellow chicken.

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                                        • jimmyf
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                                          • Feb 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Can you repackage Windows XP and sell it as your own?
                                          Yes -- people are doing it-- Sure you will have 2 deal with Bill, he already thinks we are all fucking thieves anyways

                                          Can I photocopy all the pages from Hustler and sell an abbreviated version with no ads?
                                          Yes -- people are doing it -- but Larry will come after you're ass as you are cutting into his poker moneys.

                                          Can I legally tape a program, edit out the commericals and distribute it?
                                          Yes -- Check out eBay

                                          Do you legally own a DVD in your DVD collection?
                                          Yes -- fucking yes-- Just ask at least 99% of the people that have bought one.

                                          NOT my just what one hell of alot of people think and do.

                                          Hope I answered all correct, I would suggest you do some futher research, if you plan on using my advice.
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                                          • MrPopup
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jimmyf

                                            Do you legally own a DVD in your DVD collection?
                                            Yes -- fucking yes-- Just ask at least 99% of the people that have bought one.
                                            What people think and what the law is are completely different.

                                            You do the research, since you're the one who needs it.

                                            http://www.eff.org/IP/DVD/

                                            Although you may have DVD's on your shelf, you do not legally own them.
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                                            • Fletch XXX
                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 60840

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MrPopup


                                              What people think and what the law is are completely different.

                                              You do the research, since you're the one who needs it.

                                              http://www.eff.org/IP/DVD/

                                              Although you may have DVD's on your shelf, you do not legally own them.
                                              You legally own them.

                                              You just cant resell | repackage | redistribute blah blah them.

                                              But they are yours, c'mon.


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                                              • FATPad
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                                                #24
                                                Of course you own the DVD. You can throw it out, you can smash it, you can use it as a coaster, and if you have some way to overwrite the information on it, you can format it and use it to store backups of your word documents on it.

                                                You just don't own the intellectual property that came on the DVD.
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                                                • FATPad
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                                                  #25
                                                  You can even give it to your friend.

                                                  You can also sell the DVD to a used DVD store.
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                                                  • genomega
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                                                    #26
                                                    The answer to your question is yes!

                                                    The question was 'can you'...


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                                                    • MrPopup
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                      But they are yours, c'mon.

                                                      Thats not the way the MPAA sees things.

                                                      I swear.



                                                      As soon as they start busting the top porn guys for tax evasion, i bet a lot of the charges will be "rung up" with copyright theft charges when they find all the mp3's and kazaa downloads.

                                                      But then again, MrPopup is stupid right? Right. Everyone is completely free to act and believe what they want.
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                                                      • Fletch XXX
                                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 60840

                                                        #28
                                                        Youre also not supposed to tear the tags off of mattresses.

                                                        Can i do that?

                                                        Im not supposed to be smoking weed right now, but I am too.

                                                        im such the crimnal

                                                        criminal minded {{minded.}}

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                                                        • FATPad
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                                                          #29
                                                          What thread did this one spin off of?
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                                                          • MrPopup
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by FATPad
                                                            You can even give it to your friend.

                                                            You can also sell the DVD to a used DVD store.
                                                            Funny DVD stuff:

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                                                            http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,37059,00.html

                                                            http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

                                                            http://news.com.com/2100-1017-238556.html?legacy=cnet
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                                                            • Fletch XXX
                                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                              • 60840

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by FATPad
                                                              What thread did this one spin off of?
                                                              http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=113926

                                                              Most important post in there.

                                                              Originally posted by Mike69
                                                              Ok,

                                                              I have spoken with Lens and gornyhuy.

                                                              gornyhuy is cleared to move forward with this project if he wants.

                                                              I requested a couple of minor changes but other than that
                                                              it is fine.

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                                                              • MrPopup
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                Youre also not supposed to tear the tags off of mattresses.

                                                                Can i do that?

                                                                Im not supposed to be smoking weed right now, but I am too.

                                                                im such the crimnal

                                                                criminal minded {{minded.}}
                                                                You are 100% right.

                                                                But you are also involved in the porn industry.

                                                                Investigating authorities usually go by what is known as a "Constellation of Facts". They sniff around a build a case. One illegal thing usually leads to another.

                                                                As paranoid as it sounds, all these MP3's on all your office and company computers may come back to haunt you.
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                                                                • MrPopup
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                                  Fletch, you'll notice that Adult.com requested gornyHuy to contact them first.

                                                                  This is what smart people do. Dumb ones send a cease and desist letter (like Acacia)
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                                                                  • Fletch XXX
                                                                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                    • 60840

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MrPopup


                                                                    As paranoid as it sounds, all these MP3's on all your office and company computers may come back to haunt you.
                                                                    I dont have illegal mp3s on my computer.

                                                                    Over 2k of bought discs.

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                                                                    Speaking of, its not even noon, the tunes are cranked, its a beautiful day in Southern California, gonna drink and rock with some friends today.

                                                                    Cheers, another day in the life.


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                                                                    • MrPopup
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                                      I dont have illegal mp3s on my computer.

                                                                      Over 2k of bought discs.

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                                                                      Speaking of, its not even noon, the tunes are cranked, its a beautiful day in Southern California, gonna drink and rock with some friends today.

                                                                      Cheers, another day in the life.

                                                                      That is a fucking awesome collection.

                                                                      There is something to be said for music when you can enjoy liner notes and whatnot.
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                                                                      • Fletch XXX
                                                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 60840

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Thats a little more than half.

                                                                        As you can see a few of the towers are still brown. I am in the process of getting something big enough for the whole damn collection.

                                                                        I have a habit of painting everything i own black.

                                                                        anyhow, I have nearly as much scattered in other things and a ton of very rare import CDs I dont play, but I do jam the mp3s.

                                                                        As an extensive music collector, I appreciate being able to rip a copy of a disc instead of fucking it up.

                                                                        I have discs I have paid over 50 bucks for.

                                                                        Damn Japanese imports are always 40 +


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                                                                        • MrPopup
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                          Thats a little more than half.

                                                                          As you can see a few of the towers are still brown. I am in the process of getting something big enough for the whole damn collection.

                                                                          I have a habit of painting everything i own black.

                                                                          anyhow, I have nearly as much scattered in other things and a ton of very rare import CDs I dont play, but I do jam the mp3s.

                                                                          As an extensive music collector, I appreciate being able to rip a copy of a disc instead of fucking it up.

                                                                          I have discs I have paid over 50 bucks for.

                                                                          Damn Japanese imports are always 40 +

                                                                          You're the guy whose gonna go ballistic when CD's are dumped in favor of some more updated technology.

                                                                          Doubt it will be DVD Audio but.....
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                                                                          • Fletch XXX
                                                                            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 60840

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I have access to DAT, ADAT, 2 inch analog, vinyl pressing, ProTools, AVID, ... theres not a media out there I couldnt keep up with.

                                                                            But yeah itll suck, but shit, I got a couple hundred DVDs now, so let em move to DVD audio, ill just start buying those.

                                                                            Maybe theyll finally get into my prediction.

                                                                            Audio dics with full band discographies on em.

                                                                            Insteads of buying 6 Doors discs. Get the DVD with all 6 on them. Multilayered, for like 25 bucks.

                                                                            Ive seen some recent bands like Tom Petty have his DVD version out for 16 bucks. Instead of regular CD.

                                                                            And the DVDs are cooler because you get videos too.

                                                                            More stuff to trade I suppose.

                                                                            hahah

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                                                                            • MrPopup
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX

                                                                              hahah
                                                                              Let me just clarify that you suck for burning me earlier in this thread.

                                                                              The "touche" moment was genuine because i think i shouted out FUCK YOU at the screen.

                                                                              I'm waiting 7 minutes before I begin todays journey into non-sobriety.

                                                                              Gotta have some dignity and begin after lunch....

                                                                              Cheers

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                                                                              • Dildozer
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                i love DVDs so i own all of them legally
                                                                                as for the rest
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                                                                                • stocktrader23
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                                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by MrPopup


                                                                                  Fletch, you'll notice that Adult.com requested gornyHuy to contact them first.

                                                                                  This is what smart people do. Dumb ones send a cease and desist letter (like Acacia)
                                                                                  I take it if I link to a specific thread on GFY rather than the main page it's illegal? Cause that's all this program that has your panties in a bunch does, LINKS TO FUCKING TOPICS. It's A Url the same ones you see posted on every adult message board daily.


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                                                                                  • MrPopup
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                    I take it if I link to a specific thread on GFY rather than the main page it's illegal? Cause that's all this program that has your panties in a bunch does, LINKS TO FUCKING TOPICS. It's A Url the same ones you see posted on every adult message board daily.
                                                                                    "stocktrader"

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                                                                                    • stocktrader23
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                                                      i love DVDs so i own all of them legally
                                                                                      as for the rest
                                                                                      But your sig is another story.


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                                                                                      • Fletch XXX
                                                                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                        • 60840

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        'I get stoned in the morning, and get drunk in the afternoon' - Charlie Daniels.

                                                                                        Learn it.

                                                                                        Love it.

                                                                                        Live it.

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                                                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 18781

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by MrPopup


                                                                                          "stocktrader"

                                                                                          And?


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                                                                                          "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                                                                          • MrPopup
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 3783

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                            'I get stoned in the morning, and get drunk in the afternoon' - Charlie Daniels.

                                                                                            Learn it.

                                                                                            Love it.

                                                                                            Live it.
                                                                                            Jesus you're right. Be back in 10 minutes...
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                                                                                            • MrPopup
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 3783

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                              And?


                                                                                              whoops.
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                                                                                              • foreverjason
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 1452

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                What people think and what the law is are completely different.
                                                                                                Good point!

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                                                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                                                  lol
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 15969

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  non sobriety

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                                                                                                  • stocktrader23
                                                                                                    Let's do some business.
                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                    • 18781

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by MrPopup




                                                                                                    whoops.
                                                                                                    You truly are brilliant dipshit. Really, you are in a class all your own. You do know you can make money regardless of which way the stockmarket goes right? And by the way, I trade forex more now than stocks.


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                                                                                                    "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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