a slavery question...
 

as far as i know, the black people were literally pulled from africa (primarily) and were made slaves...

a friend here is telling me that black people from africa sold their own??

i was under the impression that they didn't have a choice?

which is true

Your friend is right, and so are you. They didn't have a choice, but the ones who did have a choice sold their own.

and also, he said that only 3% of slaves were treated really bad...

Most of them were sold into slavery by their own chieftans/village leaders, in most cases against their own will.

Of course history from that period was fairly vague so its hard to pinpoint every instance.

That doesn't sound right.

also, i belive most of the slave ships were owned by jews.

Also correct, most plantation owners treated their servants with respect, teaching them english, how to read & write, providing medical assistance etc.

But of course these people were slaves, so they couldn't just take a month off & go into town for hookers & 40's. But overall they were treated very humanely, about as humane as you can get having slaves.

Being a slave is being treated really badly.

Strange coincidence. They control the media, entertainment industy, all the banks, and Oprano as well. Its enough to make you think some sort of conspiracy is going on!

In many instances slave families were almost treated as if they were extended family, invited to dinner on holidays, played with their masters children etc. etc.

If you want to see a parrallel to 1800's slavery, take a look at mexican immigration & field workers, basically the same thing.

The owner of the orange grove won't pay them shit, but has a vested interest in his workers safety, health & general well being.

This is all historical fact, i'm not pulling this out of my ass :1orglaugh

No shit?

Where did you hear/read this? If it's true, I've been brainwashed by the public school system! Ahh! Imagine that.

wahahaha....what fairy tale book were u reading from? the whole slavery bit came from the initial plan of having indentured servants (they would be slaves for only seven years and set go) but the law became they could own slaves as long as they wanted to..


also at that time America was blossoming from the reaps of slavery (cotton etc..) so why in the hell would some plantation owner teach someone a new language when they were ripped from their homeland,stripped of their family,beaten to a pulp daily, and worked from sunup to sundown for the prividledge of living to be a slave?

Your wrong. It was against the law to teach a black person to read in most southern states. If they were found with a book they would get whipped in public.

Slaves were purchased from Africans and the treatment they got from American buyers was far better than what was in store for them otherwise. Most that remained in Africa were either worked to death or slaughtered.

The history of slave trading in Africa isnt vague at all. Its well documented. You really think ship crews went into the jungles and rounded people up? No way. The real slave traders were the Africans themselves.

Imagine that! :1orglaugh

Yes sir, all correct information, i'll be happy to give you some sources to check out.

Well... a sick or injured slave would be worthless. As would a slave that couldn't speak English.

I don't buy the read and write part though...

:1orglaugh quote of the day my friend

btw, the plan for indentured servants weren't planned for blacks, they were actually used for whites...but alas the africans were tricked into believing they would be weened into society after their tenure was up( how ironic)

White indentured servants came from all over Great Britain. Men, women, and sometimes children signed a contract with a master to serve a term of 4 to 7 years. In exchange for their service, the indentured servants received their passage paid from England, as well as food, clothing, and shelter once they arrived in the colonies. Some were even paid a salary. When the contract had expired, the servant was paid freedom dues of corn, tools, and clothing, and was allowed to leave the plantation. During the time of his indenture, however, the servant was considered his master?s personal property and his contract could be inherited or sold. Prices paid for indentured servants varied depending on skills.

While under contract a person could not marry or have children. A master?s permission was needed to leave the plantation, to perform work for anyone else, or to keep money for personal use. An unruly indentured servant was whipped or punished for improper behavior. Due to poor living conditions, hard labor, and difficulties adjusting to new climates and native diseases, many servants did not live to see their freedom. Often servants ran away from their masters. Since they often spoke English and were white, runaway servants were more difficult to recapture than black slaves. If runaway servants were captured, they were punished by increasing their time of service.

Since indentures were not recorded, information about indentured servants at Stratford is scarce. Most information has been taken from advertisements for runaway servants and court records. Some of the male indentured servants were highly skilled laborers, holding such jobs as bricklayer, joiner, plasterer, cook, clerk, gardener, coachman, butcher, blacksmith, and musician. Female indentured servants performed domestice chores like laundry, sewing, and housekeeping.

There's propaganda on both sides of the slavery debate. Obvious it was not a walk in the park being a slave. By the same token, it seems very unlikely that most slaves were beaten to a pulp daily. Since slaves were rather expensive, it wouldn't make sense to risk damaging one without good reason.

hence the term 'slavedriver'

Only a relative small percentage of the Southern and Northern populace owned slaves. Most people were to poor to own slaves. Those that did own slaves, generally speaking, treated them at least as well as they treated their livestock, in the sense that it was to their benefit to keep them healthy and fed well enough to perform a good day of work. Treating a human at least as well as a good mule...well make your own judgement.

Tribal wars in africa led to people being captured. People captured were sold as slaves.

Of course whitey captured a few himself. But the blackey's sold whitey quite a few slaves, too.

i wonder if ANY of my ancestors were treated THIS good..

WTF do you think happen to them here. :321GFY

And most slave owners were jews too. And most slaves were jews too, and most horses were jews too. Yup jews always ran the world. Keep your ignorance under control.

That doesn't make sense though.

With all the money invested into the slave, they needed to be able to communicate at a fairly good level, and the slave also needed to be fairly healthy in order to perform the work properly.

I see two sides of the story slowly opening up.

From what I understand, this is true.

Someone already said it...they took good enough care of the slaves to allow them to do the work. You don't buy an ox to plow your fields and whip the thing to death for shits and giggles.

Some of the slave owners probably did take good care of their slaves and treat them like extended family (sort of). The large plantations most likely treated them like livestock.

Beaten to a pulp daily? Come on dude thats bullshit, you've watched too many movies.

Funny how most people here would say yes.:eek7

Bro you need to go do some reading, very few were taught anything besides how to do their duties. Most white people back then barely finished 5th grade they did not want their slave to feel like an equal.

also considering black people were considered 3/5ths of a person by law..which means we werent even considered a whole person

Dude they were treated like animals. Someone fed you a load of shit and you ate it up.:helpme

Was it even that much i tought it was less than that.

I think the real question that should be asked here is how many do what they want and not what they feel. We are a slave to our own feelings and not wants my friends.