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Nice_Nick 04-22-2014 01:34 PM

IP Addresses
 
I hate the way I feel I need to get a different IP to avoid G penalisation.

Anyway, I currently have maybe 20 sites all hosted through 1 add-on domain. so the sites look like mysite.mainsite.com

The hosting is through certified / naked hosting. I can access cPanel.

Are these add-on domains really just subdomains?
Can I get a fresh IP for each site or a few IP's for a block of sites.

I don't really want multiple hosts I just want more control over where my sites lie.

Is there an alternative to add-on domains?

Thanks

iSpyCams 04-22-2014 01:38 PM

I don't think your IP's matter as much as you think they do, obviously if you have a blacklisted IP it matters but Google is looking at a lot of things and the IP is not that important in the scheme of things, low cost hosts like bluehost and hostgator have thousands of sites on an IP and Google doesn't necessarily link and penalize them.

AnalProbe 04-22-2014 02:22 PM

I sell IPv6 for just a few grand

CurrentlySober 04-22-2014 02:27 PM

i kunt a4d a IP Address... :(

Nice_Nick 04-22-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnalProbe (Post 20059018)
I sell IPv6 for just a few grand

Sounds good, what is IPv6?

over38 04-22-2014 02:28 PM

I have tons of blogs with the same setup and they do just fine in google. All unique content/domains. Now if you are doing blackhat stuff or linking them together maybe not :(

Nice_Nick 04-22-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnalProbe (Post 20059018)
I sell IPv6 for just a few grand

Are you related to Anal Hobbit

directfiesta 04-22-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nice_Nick (Post 20058982)

Anyway, I currently have maybe 20 sites all hosted through 1 add-on domain. so the sites look like mysite.mainsite.com



Thanks

that looks more like a subdomain.

In Cpanel, on the same ip, you can add domains ( as long as the host activated the option ). They will look like :

mainsite.com
othersite.com
anotherfuckinglousysite.com

and so on .

AndrewX 04-22-2014 03:07 PM

It is not possible to set up cPanel to have multiple domains per IP, it is a cPanel limitation, it's an old panel. You have to create separate reseller accounts in WHM, assign a private IP to each of them them and add the domains in each of these cPanel accounts as addon domains.

Hope it makes sense. In our Virtualmin panel it's a piece of cake, you enter the domain name, a password and choose your IP through a drop-down list.

directfiesta 04-22-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewX (Post 20059063)
It is not possible to set up cPanel to have multiple domains per IP, it is a cPanel limitation, it's an old panel. You have to create separate reseller accounts in WHM, assign a private IP to each of them them and add the domains in each of these cPanel accounts as addon domains.

Hope it makes sense. In our Virtualmin panel it's a piece of cake, you enter the domain name, a password and choose your IP through a drop-down list.

I really don`t see what you are saying,.

Let`s not address the '' old'' panel versus the '' new '' panel as this could go on for ever.

I have clients, that in the same account on the same unique IP, have multiple sites :

site1.com
site2.com
site3.com
... etc

This is done by using addon domain , that creates a folder in public_html, as well as dns entries.
This is what I understood the OP wanted to do, instead if having :
site1.com
site2.site1.com
site3.site1.com

Here is a tutorial :

http://www.siteground.com/tutorials/...on_domains.htm

Maybe I use some Paul Markham magic Cpanel ... :)

brandonstills 04-22-2014 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewX (Post 20059063)
It is not possible to set up cPanel to have multiple domains per IP, it is a cPanel limitation, it's an old panel. You have to create separate reseller accounts in WHM, assign a private IP to each of them them and add the domains in each of these cPanel accounts as addon domains.

Hope it makes sense. In our Virtualmin panel it's a piece of cake, you enter the domain name, a password and choose your IP through a drop-down list.

Since when? I'm doing that right now. Have been for years.

Nice_Nick 04-22-2014 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20059222)
I really don`t see what you are saying,.

Let`s not address the '' old'' panel versus the '' new '' panel as this could go on for ever.

I have clients, that in the same account on the same unique IP, have multiple sites :

site1.com
site2.com
site3.com
... etc

This is done by using addon domain , that creates a folder in public_html, as well as dns entries.
This is what I understood the OP wanted to do, instead if having :
site1.com
site2.site1.com
site3.site1.com

Here is a tutorial :

http://www.siteground.com/tutorials/...on_domains.htm

Maybe I use some Paul Markham magic Cpanel ... :)

This is exactly what I am talking about, so is it possible?

AndrewX 04-23-2014 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nice_Nick (Post 20059369)
This is exactly what I am talking about, so is it possible?

Not possible with cPanel.

The concept in cPanel is to have one main shared IP address. Every other IP address is dedicated. The only way to have more than one shared IP address is to create a reseller, and designate one IP address as that reseller's shared IP address. Only that reseller can use that IP address as a shared IP address; no one else can add accounts to that reseller's shared IP address.

Edit:

You can add an unlimited amount of (addon) domains on your shared IP. But only 1 domain per dedicated IP. To have multiple domains on your other dedicated IPs, you need to create a new cPanel account in WHM with a unique shared IP, then add addon domains to it.

It is not possible to have:

1.1.1.1 (shared IP) - domain1.com domain2.com domain3.com
1.1.1.2 - domain4.com domain5.com domain6.com
1.1.1.3 - domain7.com domain8.com domain9.com

For this you need multiple cPanel accounts (so you need WHM), or another panel or you will break cPanel operations, it will not know how to handle them.

AndrewX 04-23-2014 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 20059334)
Since when? I'm doing that right now. Have been for years.

You are doing it the hard way, using tools not ment for the job. cPanel is messy when you distribute domains between multiple IPs.

Nice_Nick 04-23-2014 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewX (Post 20059549)
Not possible with cPanel.

The concept in cPanel is to have one main shared IP address. Every other IP address is dedicated. The only way to have more than one shared IP address is to create a reseller, and designate one IP address as that reseller's shared IP address. Only that reseller can use that IP address as a shared IP address; no one else can add accounts to that reseller's shared IP address.

Edit:

You can add an unlimited amount of (addon) domains on your shared IP. But only 1 domain per dedicated IP. To have multiple domains on your other dedicated IPs, you need to create a new cPanel account in WHM with a unique shared IP, then add addon domains to it.

It is not possible to have:

1.1.1.1 (shared IP) - domain1.com domain2.com domain3.com
1.1.1.2 - domain4.com domain5.com domain6.com
1.1.1.3 - domain7.com domain8.com domain9.com

For this you need multiple cPanel accounts (so you need WHM), or another panel or you will break cPanel operations, it will not know how to handle them.

Ok, thanks for the info.

mybadass 04-23-2014 06:01 AM

Fuck IP, make clean sites :thumbsup

directfiesta 04-23-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewX (Post 20059549)
Not possible with cPanel.

The concept in cPanel is to have one main shared IP address. Every other IP address is dedicated. The only way to have more than one shared IP address is to create a reseller, and designate one IP address as that reseller's shared IP address. Only that reseller can use that IP address as a shared IP address; no one else can add accounts to that reseller's shared IP address.

Edit:

You can add an unlimited amount of (addon) domains on your shared IP. But only 1 domain per dedicated IP. To have multiple domains on your other dedicated IPs, you need to create a new cPanel account in WHM with a unique shared IP, then add addon domains to it.

It is not possible to have:

1.1.1.1 (shared IP) - domain1.com domain2.com domain3.com
1.1.1.2 - domain4.com domain5.com domain6.com
1.1.1.3 - domain7.com domain8.com domain9.com

For this you need multiple cPanel accounts (so you need WHM), or another panel or you will break cPanel operations, it will not know how to handle them.

I do not understand why you always come back with different or multriple IPs ... The OP just wants to have many sites on the same IP .

That is possible and is a normal standard of Cpanel.

Seems that you have an issue/opinion and agenda about CPanel :2 cents:

AndrewX 04-24-2014 05:26 AM

Quote:

Can I get a fresh IP for each site or a few IP's for a block of sites.
2 Questions. First question = yes. Second question = not exactly. Gave detailed information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20059705)
I do not understand why you always come back with different or multriple IPs ... The OP just wants to have many sites on the same IP .

That is possible and is a normal standard of Cpanel.

Seems that you have an issue/opinion and agenda about CPanel :2 cents:

I wouldn't be here if I did not like to argue. Learn Linux.

signupdamnit 04-24-2014 06:01 AM

Additional IPs these days are mainly needed if you are doing blackhat [to limit the damage if a penalty is applied or to help avoid being banned by other services] and even then the truth is unless you are very slick Google has other ways of associating your sites.

anexsia 04-24-2014 07:58 AM

You don't need different IPs, you'll be just fine hosting as many sites as you want on 1 IP.

directfiesta 04-24-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewX (Post 20060925)




Learn Linux.

WOW ... pretentiuous little princess, aren`t you ?

OP should do as you say as you are the one with the sole way of doing it .

I am out of here , and fuck trying to help posters here ... no more...

Will just troll the trollable threads.

:321GFY

kacy 04-24-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nice_Nick (Post 20058982)
I hate the way I feel I need to get a different IP to avoid G penalisation.

Anyway, I currently have maybe 20 sites all hosted through 1 add-on domain. so the sites look like mysite.mainsite.com

The hosting is through certified / naked hosting. I can access cPanel.

Are these add-on domains really just subdomains?
Can I get a fresh IP for each site or a few IP's for a block of sites.

I don't really want multiple hosts I just want more control over where my sites lie.

Is there an alternative to add-on domains?

Thanks

Yes , they are real add on domains. cPanel sets up sub domain we well, it's just a function of cPanel that cannot be changed. I don't know what people are talking about, my eyes started to hurt, but YES you can get an add on IP address for each domain. They are $2/mo if you have our NERD plan. If not you can upgrade. Contact our support team for assistance with this ;)


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