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Sly 04-04-2014 10:55 AM

Congressman (D) says he is underpaid
 
Thoughts?

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"I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,? Moran said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...are-underpaid/

media 04-04-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20038437)

Kinda makes you wanna throat punch him to shut him up...

_Richard_ 04-04-2014 10:57 AM

well should really match CEO pay, no?

Sly 04-04-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20038440)
well should really match CEO pay, no?

Which CEO? Many make very little and are paid based on performance.

I would not object to public servants being paid based on performance at all.

JFK 04-04-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20038443)
Which CEO? Many make very little and are paid based on performance.

I would not object to public servants being paid based on performance at all.

A Lot of the fuckers would starve :1orglaugh:thumbsup

_Richard_ 04-04-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20038443)
Which CEO? Many make very little and are paid based on performance.

I would not object to public servants being paid based on performance at all.

:1orglaugh something tells me that would work poorly

i was mostly joking about the percentage increases over the average worker.. so if some ceos out there are getting 1700% percent more than the average worker.. you could say the government deserves the same!

onwebcam 04-04-2014 11:05 AM

If they actually worked 365 days a year thats $476 a day.. More than enough.. But considering they only worked 113 last year that's $1540 a day. Overpaid if you ask me.

Rochard 04-04-2014 11:06 AM

They have the lowest approval rating ever... They make plenty.

Vendzilla 04-04-2014 11:10 AM

Have to remember, once they leave office, they still get paid.
More millionaires in congress than you might think

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-04-2014 11:24 AM

Lemme see, the pay is $174k, so what does it cost to get elected (under the status quo)?

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The average price of winning or holding on to a six-year term in the U.S. Senate averaged $10,476,451 in the 2012 election cycle.

Slightly less pricey, obtaining or being re-elected to the U.S. House of Representatives cost an average of $1,689,580.

In effect, that means that the winning Senate candidates needed to raise an average of $14,351 every day between Jan. 1 2010 and election day, 2012 in order to pull of a win, while the victorious House members raised $2.315 per day.

?They?re spending more of their time fundraising than making actual laws,? MapLight President Daniel Newman told the Daily News. ?They?ve become high priced telemarketers.?
2008 Stats:

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In 93 percent of House of Representatives races, and 94 percent of Senate races that had been decided by mid-day Nov. 5, the candidate who spent the most money ended up winning, according to a post-election analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. The findings are based on candidates' spending through Oct. 15, as reported to the Federal Election Commission.

Continuing a trend seen election cycle after election cycle, the biggest spender was victorious in 397 of 426 decided House races and 30 of 32 settled Senate races. On Election Day 2006, top spenders won 94 percent of House races and 73 percent of Senate races. In 2004, 98 percent of House seats went to the biggest spender, as did 88 percent of Senate seats.
In light of the SCOTUS Citizens United ruling, which eliminated campaign reform laws designed to ensure that elections are not unduly influenced by wealthy individuals and special interest groups, and the most recent McCutcheon decision by the Supreme Court to further gut election campaign finance reform, I believe it is important to support publicly financed elections, with a level playing field for getting out the message/vote. :2 cents:

Some public campaign finance resource sites:

http://www.publicampaign.org/home

http://www.DemocracyIsForPeople.org/

http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=183

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L-Pink 04-04-2014 11:33 AM

Fucking money hungry Republicans

crockett 04-04-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20038465)
Have to remember, once they leave office, they still get paid.
More millionaires in congress than you might think

The amount they get paid, isn't why they are millionaires. To be far, most are usually well off already, but if they are t they will be by the time they leave. They have access to insider information and they made the rules so they can act on that information via the stock market.

Meaning if they know a company is going to get a big contract or funding from the govt, they can buy stock before anyone else knows about it. They have the ability to print their own money with this..

Sly 04-04-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20038514)
The amount they get paid, isn't why they are millionaires. To be far, most are usually well off already, but if they are t they will be by the time they leave. They have access to insider information and they made the rules so they can act on that information via the stock market.

Meaning if they know a company is going to get a big contract or funding from the govt, they can buy stock before anyone else knows about it. They have the ability to print their own money with this..

If they had to follow insider trading laws like citizens do, far too many of them would be in jail. There have been many many news programs straight out calling out Congressman for insider trading, and proving it, yet nothing can be done.

If they want to play the game, fine, so be it. How dare they bitch about not getting enough perks. Know when to stop holding out greedy hands, just might get chopped off.

Tom_PM 04-04-2014 12:31 PM

Some might say that he's underpunched.

Magnetron 04-04-2014 01:01 PM

boo fucking hoo

Socks 04-04-2014 01:09 PM

Maybe he can get a second job. I heard some people had to do that.

Klen 04-04-2014 01:11 PM

Yikes that is even more then salary of euro parliament member where they get 7000 euros monthly.They also complain aboutt being "underpaid",apparently Brussels is very expensive city but i bet they bullshit same as this one.

JFK 04-04-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20038485)
Fucking money hungry Republicans

OH Puhleeeze , they are are the fucking same :2 cents:

arock10 04-04-2014 04:33 PM

Makes sense to me

_Richard_ 04-04-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 20038797)
OH Puhleeeze , they are are the fucking same :2 cents:

http://i.imgur.com/eZDbTDE.gif

Robbie 04-04-2014 04:53 PM

They shouldn't get paid ANYTHING.

They should all have to keep their "real job" (most of them are attorneys and have working law practices anyway)

If a person wants to be a public "servant" then that's what it really should be.

It wasn't meant to be a full-time job. They should only be in Washington D.C. to vote for a few important things each year. Instead they are there all their lives making new laws every goddamned day to prove how much they are doing.

crockett 04-04-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20038521)
If they had to follow insider trading laws like citizens do, far too many of them would be in jail. There have been many many news programs straight out calling out Congressman for insider trading, and proving it, yet nothing can be done.

If they want to play the game, fine, so be it. How dare they bitch about not getting enough perks. Know when to stop holding out greedy hands, just might get chopped off.

Well one thing you have to look at.. even though they are only in congress 3 days a week, it's not like they are sitting by the pool the other 4 days. They are still out doing shit be it if they have to fly back to their own states or what ever. So it's a little unfair when people say they only worked X amount of days, but they damn sure shouldn't bitch about the pay or the benefits..

Granted a good part of that is them doing fund raising for their next campaign.

Black All Through 04-05-2014 03:15 AM

They make a lot less than MP's in most of the European countries, but keep in consideration that "corruption" funding is legal in the US, so at the end of the day, their making a lot more.

OldJeff 04-05-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20038450)
:1orglaugh something tells me that would work poorly

i was mostly joking about the percentage increases over the average worker.. so if some ceos out there are getting 1700% percent more than the average worker.. you could say the government deserves the same!

Not even the slightest hint of a connection between what a PRIVATE corporation pays people, and what a PUBLIC SERVANT is given off the government teat.

CEO pay comes from a companies profit, Congress gets paid from taxes taken from people

Robbie 04-05-2014 09:10 AM

Good post OldJeff.

I agree 100%.
Little by little over the decades the "public servants" have become the RULING class.

I couldn't believe that people were cheering on Obama giving Federal employees a raise in the minimum wage!
It's like living in "bizarro world" where people are cheering and screaming: "Yes! We are in 17 trillion dollars debt! Please take MORE of my money and give it to public 'servants'!"

lucas131 04-05-2014 09:28 AM

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Klen 04-05-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20038842)
They shouldn't get paid ANYTHING.

They should all have to keep their "real job" (most of them are attorneys and have working law practices anyway)

If a person wants to be a public "servant" then that's what it really should be.

It wasn't meant to be a full-time job. They should only be in Washington D.C. to vote for a few important things each year. Instead they are there all their lives making new laws every goddamned day to prove how much they are doing.

That actually exist,but in communism :1orglaugh But there is one thing common with any parliament - they have toomany members,most of them never say anything or they dont even come there.

Robbie 04-05-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20039245)
That actually exist,but in communism :1orglaugh But there is one thing common with any parliament - they have toomany members,most of them never say anything or they dont even come there.

As I understood it...when The Soviet Union existed their politicians were also RULING class and had the best of everything while the people suffered.

Supz 04-05-2014 09:50 AM

a lot of people in the US are underpaid.

pimpmaster9000 04-05-2014 10:08 AM

if it costs 10m$ to get elected then you pretty much have to be corrupt to pay off the campaign money, let alone make bank...from that perspective 1500$ per day is not much LOL...wanna do politics? get ready to get dirty LOL

idolbucks 04-05-2014 07:36 PM

"Moran"

4char :1orglaugh


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