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eipstudios 03-17-2014 07:31 AM

The Netherlands Tells Immigrants to Learn Dutch or Get Out
 
http://content.time.com/time/video/p...064551,00.html

Verbal 03-17-2014 07:54 AM

Hup Holland!

JuicyBunny 03-17-2014 07:58 AM

About fucking time. :thumbsup

Cherry7 03-17-2014 08:04 AM

If Spain does there will be a lot of poor Brits....

Verbal 03-17-2014 08:09 AM

It's gotta be one of the most difficult languages to learn.

Mr. Stiff 03-17-2014 08:20 AM

Thursday, Oct. 14, 2010

Great 'news' :P

Manfap 03-17-2014 08:55 AM

They offer free lesssons, or they used to. I learned a bit when I lived there for a year.

_Richard_ 03-17-2014 08:56 AM

reminds me of Quebec

iSpyCams 03-17-2014 09:26 AM

I thought they always did.

Struggle4Bucks 03-17-2014 09:34 AM

"I'm too old to learn it", "it's not fair" blablabla...

No matter where you place them... some people always will be victims... it's a role in life they learned and will apply in every situation they get in...

It's time for a victim-island where they can all cry and complain all day... UN will drop foodpackages everyday... they will be fine...

Antonio 03-17-2014 09:37 AM

meervoudigepersoonlijkheidsstoornissen

brassmonkey 03-17-2014 09:45 AM

united states does it learn the lango or you're out. learn enough to function there. :2 cents:

JFK 03-17-2014 10:05 AM

it's all about being integrated into the society you're in, its only fair:2 cents::thumbsup

Roald 03-17-2014 10:07 AM

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/gallery/pa...958__file__med

:thumbsup

Scott McD 03-17-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20018400)
united states does it learn the lango or you're out. learn enough to function there. :2 cents:

So does the UK.


































Yeah right... :1orglaugh

WDF 03-17-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20018400)
united states does it learn the lango or you're out.

That is why any correspondence I get from my city and state govt comes in 5 or 6 different languages.

brassmonkey 03-17-2014 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20018493)
So does the UK.


































Yeah right... :1orglaugh

look how fucked up the uk is :helpme

The following are subject to censorship in the UK: Sex Swearing 'Obscenity' ... anything 'glorifying' drugs, alcohol or smoking
source:censorship.wikia.com/wiki/United_Kingdom

swearing???? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sly 03-17-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20018400)
united states does it learn the lango or you're out. learn enough to function there. :2 cents:

Since when? Any phone call I make I am now greeted with English and Spanish. There are plenty of citizens that don't speak English.

Petra 03-17-2014 11:57 AM

Wow. Welcome to 2005.

mineistaken 03-17-2014 12:01 PM

Too late, it's dark country already.

Vendzilla 03-17-2014 12:02 PM

If you live in LA you have to learn Spanish, so I don't see where this in unfair. I grew up here!

Meloman 03-17-2014 12:03 PM

People should learn the language of the country they're in and assimilate.

My mother has lived in the USA for almost 40 years and can still barely speak English but somehow she got her citizenship 10 years ago. How the hell do you pass the citizenship test when you can't even read, write or understand the language???

"oh just let the poor old lady pass the test, she seems harmless enough and has more than earned her right to be here".. that's my guess.

Except she has ZERO respect for American culture, only likes America for it's "financial opportunities", still thinks Italy/Sicily is the best country, absolutely ONLY has Italian speaking friends (has never had American friends) and is pretty much a 100% socialist ant-capitalist.

People need to be fluent in the language of the country they live in. ESPECIALLY to pass the citizenship test!!

Tittytweaker 03-17-2014 12:27 PM

If I went to any country where the population didn't speak English, I'd be expected to learn. Hell, I'd -want- to learn. That way I could assimilate into their culture more easily.

It seems like that would be the ideal situation, instead of having a segment of the population that self segregates and makes no effort to connect with the people in their host country.

brassmonkey 03-17-2014 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20018588)
Since when? Any phone call I make I am now greeted with English and Spanish. There are plenty of citizens that don't speak English.

united states naturalization you need to pass it to become a citizen. those are illegals. companies have added products just for illegals.

The Porn Nerd 03-17-2014 12:36 PM

Everyone will be speaking Chinese one day anyway...

Meloman 03-17-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20018642)
united states naturalization you need to pass it to become a citizen. those are illegals. companies have added products just for illegals.

See my post above. Trust me, it doesn't take much to pass the citizenship test as long as you pass the eligibility requirements (live in US for XX years).

You show up in a group, answer some questions, put your hand up and recite the oath and bingo your in. Now if you don't actually speak English who can just mumble along with everyone else and they won't know.

Citizenship should require language fluency and actually PROVE you know it, lol.

There is absolutely NO way my mom got her citizenship without someone overlooking her wrong answers / language issue.

brassmonkey 03-17-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 20018663)
See my post above. Trust me, it doesn't take much to pass the citizenship test as long as you pass the eligibility requirements (live in US for XX years).

You show up in a group, answer some questions, put your hand up and recite the oath and bingo your in. Now if you don't actually speak English who can just mumble along with everyone else and they won't know.

Citizenship should require language fluency and actually PROVE you know it, lol.

There is absolutely NO way my mom got her citizenship without someone overlooking her wrong answers / language issue.

hahaha i have people in my family speak spanish only

Petra 03-17-2014 01:12 PM

Remind me to tell you guys how my "dutch integration" went last year. The dutchies in the office actually stole my study book at one time because it was so idiotic.

just a punk 03-17-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eipstudios (Post 20018211)
The Netherlands Tells Immigrants to Learn Dutch or Get Out

A very wise decision :2 cents:

Sly 03-17-2014 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20018642)
united states naturalization you need to pass it to become a citizen. those are illegals. companies have added products just for illegals.

Incorrect. Not every non-English speaker is illegal. That's quite racist of you.

If you are born here, you are good to go.

Klen 03-17-2014 02:42 PM

Only word on dutch which i know is geslapen which means sleeping.Learned it from some silly dutch or belgium tv serie.

seeandsee 03-17-2014 03:29 PM

i love amsterdam yeah

The Hun 03-17-2014 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20018774)
Only word on dutch which i know is geslapen which means sleeping.Learned it from some silly dutch or belgium tv serie.

it means 'slept'... close though

brassmonkey 03-17-2014 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20018722)
Incorrect. Not every non-English speaker is illegal. That's quite racist of you.

If you are born here, you are good to go.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh added to ignore :) later

halfpint 03-17-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tittytweaker (Post 20018638)
If I went to any country where the population didn't speak English, I'd be expected to learn. Hell, I'd -want- to learn. That way I could assimilate into their culture more easily.

It seems like that would be the ideal situation, instead of having a segment of the population that self segregates and makes no effort to connect with the people in their host country.

:thumbsup

pornmasta 03-17-2014 05:39 PM

Buitenlanders uit!

Oh wait, i'm not dutch :/

oppoten 03-17-2014 10:05 PM

Interesting how Wilders seems to get sympathetic coverage in the Israeli press

http://www.timesofisrael.com/dutch-c...ilders-hitler/

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/brea...er/2014/03/17/

Pornopat 03-18-2014 12:07 AM

Let me be the alternative voice.
If people choose not to learn the language of a country they should not be forced to do so.
I fully agree that they would probably be more happy if they did so and could participate in society more actively but its not to other people to force them.
I am not sure what I lose out on if immigrants do not speak my language.

I have lived on the dutch antilles for over 3 years and choice not to learn the local language . The local language is only spoken by about 300k people and I was still able to communicate with everybody in either dutch, english or spanish. Why break my head over the local language when I had so much other things going on and knowing that my stay is only temporarely?

:2 cents:

Klen 03-18-2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hun (Post 20018899)
it means 'slept'... close though

Grammar nazi :1orglaugh

dirtymind 03-22-2014 05:39 AM

its not as been shown in the video. But yes you should learn the language if you would like to receive benefits from the government.

We welcome people to be safe but we don't need people to cripple the system. If you want to work you need to speak dutch. I have lots of Irish friends who are working here at tech companies and all of them are learning dutch as they would like to stay here. They are far in their twenties.

If you would like to stay here and work and get benefits then you should learn Dutch.

TheSquealer 03-22-2014 07:21 AM

If people want to immigrate to a country, there is no reason they should not fully assimilate themselves into and fully embrace that nation and culture. Anything else does nothing more than weaken that society.

baddog 03-22-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20018906)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh added to ignore :) later

Can't accept the truth? Sly is right and I have pointed out your racism numerous times. :2 cents:

baddog 03-22-2014 07:29 AM

I try to learn the basics: yes, no, thank you, please, where's the beer; but I have had Dutch people tell me not to bother.

Rochard 03-22-2014 09:44 AM

This sounds reasonable. You should learn the language of the country you want to live in.

Years ago I went to a swearing in ceremony for new US citizens. It was eye opening - how badly people wanted to come to the US and become citizens. Every last one of them spoke better English them myself.

CHMOD 03-23-2014 12:42 AM

Way to go!!
If you're not respectful enough to learn the language of the country and the people that is welcoming you, then you do not deserve to stay in that country.

brassmonkey 03-23-2014 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20023883)
Can't accept the truth? Sly is right and I have pointed out your racism numerous times. :2 cents:

im a racist grandpa:thumbsup

Cherry7 03-23-2014 02:46 AM

I think it should be you have to learn the language and history of a country before you invade it.

Would the Americans have invaded Vietnam if they had to learn Vietnamese first?


The Brits and Yanks never learn the language of the countries they occupy.

Or choose to live in...How many Brits living in Spain have learnt the language and culture?

How many schools and courses are there for immigrants to learn English? Free and at a time they can go?

CHMOD 03-23-2014 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20024357)
I think it should be you have to learn the language and history of a country before you invade it.

Would the Americans have invaded Vietnam if they had to learn Vietnamese first?


The Brits and Yanks never learn the language of the countries they occupy.

Or choose to live in...How many Brits living in Spain have learnt the language and culture?

How many schools and courses are there for immigrants to learn English? Free and at a time they can go?


I do not agree with you.
It seems to me that you are confused between invading a country -act of war- and immigrating -looking for a better life- It is not the same at all. As immigrant, the country that receives you has no depts towards you. You have to make the necessary efforts to adapt yourself to the country. Just for the record, I have lived in Denmark, Germany and Spain. I have learned all the languages of those countries without taking any courses. I am an adult and I am responsible for what I am doing. I do not need to be pampered by the governement.

Romainz 03-23-2014 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 20018609)
People should learn the language of the country they're in and assimilate.

My mother has lived in the USA for almost 40 years and can still barely speak English but somehow she got her citizenship 10 years ago. How the hell do you pass the citizenship test when you can't even read, write or understand the language???

"oh just let the poor old lady pass the test, she seems harmless enough and has more than earned her right to be here".. that's my guess.

Except she has ZERO respect for American culture, only likes America for it's "financial opportunities", still thinks Italy/Sicily is the best country, absolutely ONLY has Italian speaking friends (has never had American friends) and is pretty much a 100% socialist ant-capitalist.

People need to be fluent in the language of the country they live in. ESPECIALLY to pass the citizenship test!!

Dayum someone should had used contraceptive or just swallow it all..

Antonio 03-23-2014 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20023950)
Every last one of them spoke better English them myself.

You don't say


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