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Harmon 03-04-2014 12:39 PM

Honestly, can somebody break down what the fuck is going on in Russia?
 
Seriously, somebody with some solid knowledge break it down simply for those of us that sit on the opposite side of the planet and don't give a fuck.

Make it quick. My drink is getting warm.

:glugglug

Scott McD 03-04-2014 12:41 PM

This is what's going on:


Magnetron 03-04-2014 12:44 PM

MrDiez started complaining about police brutality in the Ukraine.

To which Putin said, "Crimea River why dontcha, eh ."

Harmon 03-04-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20004452)
This is what's going on:


:36

Hot stuff

candyflip 03-04-2014 12:47 PM

There was a good explanation on Reddit yesterday. I can't find it today.

CAHEK 03-04-2014 12:50 PM

Basically Russia want to support their own people who live in Ukraine.

In Ukraine pretty much there is no police and no justice. Who ever hold an AK47 and group of bad people is in power. There is so fucked up shit going on there. If they don't like somebody they just kill them or set on fire.

Harmon 03-04-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20004470)
Basically Russia want to support their own people who live in Ukraine.

In Ukraine pretty much there is no police and no justice. Who ever hold an AK47 and group of bad people is in power. There is so fucked up shit going on there. If they don't like somebody they just kill them or set on fire.

So Russia is doing the right thing and putting an end to a wrong?

Ross 03-04-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20004465)
There was a good explanation on Reddit yesterday. I can't find it today.

I saw that, pretty much the guy was saying that they want to take Crimea because they would then control the major Port that is there, the old Ukraine Government were Pro-Russian and Russia believe that the next Government may not be, thus they want to secure that port before the new Government are sworn in and decide not to renew their lease or contract they had. That is cliffnotes version, I'm sure a quick search on reddit.com will find the better answer. It was in the explain like I'm 5 sub reddit, if that helps.

dehash 03-04-2014 01:09 PM

Regular politic games. As usually, nothing changed for hundreds years - divide and conquer/rule.

klinton 03-04-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott mcd (Post 20004452)
this is what's going on:


heheh......

CAHEK 03-04-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20004479)
So Russia is doing the right thing and putting an end to a wrong?

It's a first step but its not the end.

pornmasta 03-04-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 20004493)
the old Ukraine Government were Pro-Russian and Russia believe that the next Government may not be,.

wrong ioulia timotchenko was for europe and they hadn't this problem


here is my explanation:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20002059&postcount=265

_Richard_ 03-04-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 20004458)

To which Putin said, "Crimea River why dontcha, eh ."

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

atom 03-04-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 20004458)
To which Putin said, "Crimea River why dontcha, eh ."

best post yet on this board about what's happening. :thumbsup

Rochard 03-04-2014 01:34 PM

Here is my take....
  1. The President of Ukraine had a choice between loans from Europe or Russia. He choose Russia.
  2. The citizens protested, which turned violent.
  3. The Ukrainian Parliament impeached the President.
  4. The President fled to Russia.
  5. Russia invaded the Crimea claiming they had to "protect Russian speaking citizens"... Who have been Ukrainian citizens since 1954.

Correct me if I am missing something.

Emma 03-04-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20004448)
Seriously, somebody with some solid knowledge break it down simply for those of us that sit on the opposite side of the planet and don't give a fuck.

Make it quick. My drink is getting warm.

:glugglug

The Ukrainian crisis - Live updates

pornmasta 03-04-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20004530)
Correct me if I am missing something.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20002059&postcount=265

Antonio 03-04-2014 01:45 PM

In Russia? They went from normal to stupid in 24 hours, 99% of the Russians think that it's OK to invade another country, this is how retarded they are right now

In Ukraine, they went full retard there too - the new "government" decided to ban the Russian language and started speaking anti-Russian shit even though huge portion of their population is Russian or Ukrainian who's 1st language is Russian

Of course, the EU and the US have their (our) grabby hands there too, for $$$ (EU) and power (US) reasons


^^^ as good as it gets

Magnetron 03-04-2014 05:14 PM

Who would've thunk Putin spoke like a character straight out of Fargo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20004448)
Make it quick. My drink is getting warm.

:glugglug

Just grab another juice box from the fridge.

SilentKnight 03-04-2014 05:51 PM

Russia's just pissed a Ukranian contractor installed all the toilets side-by-side in Sochi.

signupdamnit 03-04-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20004479)
So Russia is doing the right thing and putting an end to a wrong?

It's kind of a slippery slope though. Hitler claimed much of the same thing when he invaded Poland.

Quote:

To provoke war with Poland in order to gain Lebensraum, Nazis used as a pretext a claim to Free City of Danzig and Polish territory that separated German exclave of East Prussia from the rest of the Reich.[23] The so-called Polish Corridor constituted land long disputed by Poland and Germany, and inhabited by a Polish majority. The Corridor became a part of Poland after the Treaty of Versailles. Many Germans also wanted the city of Danzig and its environs (together the Free City of Danzig) to be reincorporated into Germany. Danzig was a port city with a German majority.[24] It had been separated from Germany after Versailles and made into a nominally independent Free City of Danzig. Hitler sought to use this as reason for war, reverse these territorial losses, and on many occasions made an appeal to German nationalism, promising to "liberate" the German minority still in the Corridor, as well as Danzig.[25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasi...o_the_campaign

baddog 03-04-2014 06:48 PM

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/25/2...60.hq.jpg?2559

Tensions are running high between Ukraine and Russia following the ouster of Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych and the invasion of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula by Russian forces. Here is a primer to help understand the complex developments currently taking place in a region of the world that many Americans are unfamiliar with:

1. Key pipelines capable of transporting at least two or three wars’ worth of natural gas from Russia to Europe

2. Rampant overfishing problem—let’s not forget about that

3. You are here

4. Place that Mark stopped by when he did study abroad two years ago. He didn’t stay too long, but if you’re looking for a hostel I’m sure he’d be happy to recommend one to you. He loved it there.

5. Future site of memorial dedicated to hundreds of massacred Ukrainians

6. Region that, in an ideal world—and we’re speaking totally hypothetically here—Putin would like to annex and control

7. Arbitrary, haphazard line drawn in 1954 that will almost certainly cause the deaths of thousands

8. Size of Texas

9. Appleton, Ukraine: Largest ethnic Midwest population outside Wisconsin

10. Dying embers of the Olympic spirit

11. Location of most plentiful ukrainium reserves

12. Besarabsky Market: This vibrant, tourist-friendly hub in Kiev is likely what most of the fighting is about

13. Crimean city currently caught in crossfire between uninformed commenters on CNN.com

Ross 03-04-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20004517)
wrong ioulia timotchenko was for europe and they hadn't this problem


here is my explanation:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20002059&postcount=265

I wasn't saying my post was correct, I was merely summizing the redditors point of what he said was the reason. Lots of different opinions on why Russia are doing this.

bronco67 03-04-2014 08:00 PM

Nikita Khruschev gave The Ukraine control of Crimea decades ago. Putin, being the bastard he is, saw a weakness in Ukraine and decided to take Crimea back. Not much more than that.

artwilliams 03-04-2014 08:12 PM

Here is Russia's problem in a nut shell:

- Ukraine, which borders Russia, has been in it's sphere of political influence for many years. It was once part of the Soviet Union.
- Crimea, which is part of the southern most Ukraine, was part of Russia until 1954 when it was given to the Ukraine.
- There is a Russian naval base in Crimea which is it's only warm water port and it's only access to the Mediterranean.
- In the Southern and Eastern Ukraine there are millions of people who identify and/or support Russia. some consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian.
- Russia is not about to let a close neighbour, which it sees as a cousin if you will, and has strategic importance become part of the EU. Imagine if the Mexico decided it wanted to align with Cuba. Would Obama and the military / industrial complex of the USA allow that? No way!

AaronM 03-04-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20004859)
Russia's just pissed a Ukranian contractor installed all the toilets side-by-side in Sochi.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Jim_Gunn 03-04-2014 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20004910)
8. Size of Texas

I don't know if this map was supposed to be humorous, but Texas is pictured here as much smaller than the smallish country of Moldova when it is in fact over twenty times larger just for comparison. Texas would actually fill up this whole map space and beyond at the correct scale.

clickhappy 03-04-2014 11:52 PM

I dont give a fuck what goes on over there either

jimmycastor 03-05-2014 01:19 AM

i think this brings it to the point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 20004992)
Here is Russia's problem in a nut shell:

- Russia is not about to let a close neighbour, which it sees as a cousin if you will, and has strategic importance become part of the EU. Imagine if the Mexico decided it wanted to align with Cuba. Would Obama and the military / industrial complex of the USA allow that? No way!


just a punk 03-05-2014 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 20004493)
the old Ukraine Government were Pro-Russian

Yanukovich was pro-Russian? Huh, don't make me laugh please :1orglaugh

P.S. Do you know why Yanukovich has sent Timoshenko to prison? Because she made an a deal with Putin, which was considered by as anti-Urkainian one :2 cents:

adultchatpay 03-05-2014 01:53 AM

Russia is trying to be the "police", just like US is doing.

just a punk 03-05-2014 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20004530)
Here is my take....
  1. The President of Ukraine had a choice between loans from Europe or Russia. He choose Russia.
  2. The citizens protested, which turned violent.
  3. The Ukrainian Parliament impeached the President.
  4. The President fled to Russia.
  5. Russia invaded the Crimea claiming they had to "protect Russian speaking citizens"... Who have been Ukrainian citizens since 1954.

Correct me if I am missing something.

Sure, I'll correct you.
  1. He didn't. He said they will work on agreement on Euro-integration to make it profitable for Ukraine (the initial version was just a death sentence to a whole Ukrainian economics).
  2. It was a peaceful protest while Ukrainian national radicals have taken it under their control and started the violence.
  3. As far as I know there was no official procedure of impeachment.
  4. True.
  5. They were Ukrainian citizens only since 1991. Before then they were citizens of Soviet Socialistic Ukrainian Republic as a part of USSR. The majority of Crimea citizens still consider themselves Russian and want a full autonomy to the Crimea as they had it in 1991-1992. There will be a democratic referendum on that. BTW, the new "government" in Kiev has already notified that it will not accept the results of any referendums (yes these guys are so democratic).

just a punk 03-05-2014 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20004546)
In Russia? They went from normal to stupid in 24 hours, 99% of the Russians think that it's OK to invade another country

Where did you get these numbers? Please share your sources with me, because as a Russian I can't see any serious support of invasion here.

Thank you in advance!

smashits 03-05-2014 01:56 AM

What's wrong in it,Rave Parties are quite common not only in Russia, but in US, UK and even India too.

Although it is unhealthy, but what can we do most of teenagers enjoy taking them.

I blame Hollywood movies for spreading this culture.

just a punk 03-05-2014 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashits (Post 20005171)
What's wrong in it,Rave Parties are quite common not only in Russia, but in US, UK and even India too.

LOL, that's an old video which was viral in 2007 or so :)


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