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lakerslive 03-03-2014 11:12 AM

Solution to Ukrainian Crisis
 
Lets liberate Russia and overthrow putin.

Rochard 03-03-2014 11:16 AM

If the people of Crimea want to be part of the Russian Federation - which may in fact be the case - this can be accomplished by legal means. If they want to leave Ukraine, have a vote - not a fucking invasion.

CAHEK 03-03-2014 11:22 AM

good luck some people allready tryed protects agains putin and most people ended up in jail for 4 yrs.

Lykos 03-03-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20002990)
If the people of Crimea want to be part of the Russian Federation - which may in fact be the case - this can be accomplished by legal means. If they want to leave Ukraine, have a vote - not a fucking invasion.

Yeah right, US and EU would never allow it, lol.... if they don't have interests...

Part of Bosnia want's to go to Croatia, part of it to Serbia and part to stay Bosnia... 3 ethnic parts there in "1 country" now... And no one would ever allow them to separate.. lol

It's all about what Mr USA says :)

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20002990)
If they want to leave Ukraine, have a vote - not a fucking invasion.

are you serious that they are free to vote for? after American taxpayers have paid $ 4 millirad to bring to power a modern Ukrainian leaders like this?

http://s020.radikal.ru/i722/1312/e5/14d22165cacd.jpg

if you can not translate Ukranian yourself - long as I live, I will fight with the Communists, Jews and Russians. It is my credo.

Rochard 03-03-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 20003007)
Yeah right, US and EU would never allow it, lol.... if they don't have interests...

Part of Bosnia want's to go to Croatia, part of it to Serbia and part to stay Bosnia... 3 ethnic parts there in "1 country" now... And no one would ever allow them to separate.. lol

It's all about what Mr USA says :)

This might be true.

So far as I am concerned, Crimea is part of Ukraine. It should remain there. If people in Crimea are unhappy about this, they can leave. Clearly it hasn't been that much of an issue since 1954; I'm not sure why it's so urgent now.

At the same time, I don't see any point in trying to keep Crimea part of Ukraine. If they are unhappy being part of Ukraine they will continue to be unhappy, and be more of a problem than an asset.

Either way, this wouldn't effect the natural gas pipelines in Ukraine (they don't go through Crimea), and either way both Russia and Ukraine would still have ocean access. Russia doesn't need a Naval base in Crimea - Russia already has coastline on the black sea without Crimea.

Lykos 03-03-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20003029)
This might be true.

So far as I am concerned, Crimea is part of Ukraine. It should remain there. If people in Crimea are unhappy about this, they can leave. Clearly it hasn't been that much of an issue since 1954; I'm not sure why it's so urgent now.

At the same time, I don't see any point in trying to keep Crimea part of Ukraine. If they are unhappy being part of Ukraine they will continue to be unhappy, and be more of a problem than an asset.

Either way, this wouldn't effect the natural gas pipelines in Ukraine (they don't go through Crimea), and either way both Russia and Ukraine would still have ocean access. Russia doesn't need a Naval base in Crimea - Russia already has coastline on the black sea without Crimea.

Problem is "double standards"....

They did allow Albanians from Kosovo (Serbia) to separate...
US and EU had interests there...

They should allow to Serbians in Bosnia or Russians in Ukraine etc etc

I mean , don't get me wrong, i really don't give a shit about this. I hope we can all be one calm place without bombs and shit... But it is in human nature to split blood :(
And all fucking evil comes from white man and mostly europe:)


P.S
I heard that citizens of Texas also want to separate ? You think US would allow that?:)

klinton 03-03-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20002990)
If the people of Crimea want to be part of the Russian Federation - which may in fact be the case - this can be accomplished by legal means. If they want to leave Ukraine, have a vote - not a fucking invasion.

there will be referendum on 30 th March

Rochard 03-03-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 20003193)
Problem is "double standards"....

They did allow Albanians from Kosovo (Serbia) to separate...
US and EU had interests there...

They should allow to Serbians in Bosnia or Russians in Ukraine etc etc

What about Poland? There are Russian speaking citizens in Poland right, lots of them? Let's just allow Russia to invade Poland. Again. Not to mention Hitler tried to protect all of the "German speaking" citizens in Poland once before.

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 20003193)
I heard that citizens of Texas also want to separate ? You think US would allow that?:)

I have not heard this. Texas is... Well, special. They seem to think they are their own nation anyhow. Would we let Texas leave? Most likely not... right up to the point where they took up arms. I don't see the US government sending in troops to open fire on Americans who don't want to be Americans.

Lykos 03-04-2014 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20003264)
What about Poland? There are Russian speaking citizens in Poland right, lots of them? Let's just allow Russia to invade Poland. Again. Not to mention Hitler tried to protect all of the "German speaking" citizens in Poland once before.



I have not heard this. Texas is... Well, special. They seem to think they are their own nation anyhow. Would we let Texas leave? Most likely not... right up to the point where they took up arms. I don't see the US government sending in troops to open fire on Americans who don't want to be Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements :)

Anyway, as i said, europe is fucked up :) That's why EU will be very hard to succeed :(

All evil mostly coming from here, lol so we can just hope for the best :winkwink:


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