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  • halfpint
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    Russia gives the Ukrainian Forces in Crimea a dealine to move out or face an all out assault

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    Russia's Black Sea Fleet has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 5:00 local time (03:00 GMT) on Tuesday to surrender or face an all-out assault, according to Ukrainian defence ministry sources quoted by Interfax-Ukraine news agency. "If by 5am tomorrow morning they do not surrender a real assault will begin on units and sections of the Ukrainian armed forces all over Crimea," defence ministry officials are quoted as saying. So far there is no further confirmation of the ultimatum from other sources.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26413953

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        • Markul
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          They are never going to give up access to the black sea and no-one will stop them.
          But.... I pulled out...

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                • GregE
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Markul
                  They are never going to give up access to the black sea and no-one will stop them.
                  Precisely.

                  The best overall solution is to partition the country along ethnic/language lines, or better yet (though less likely to happen) let the Ukrainian people themselves decide which side of the line they wish to live via regional plebiscites.

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                    • Ramirez
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by CAHEK
                      "where and when will be the war?"

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                        • brassmonkey
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                            • Rochard
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by GregE
                              Precisely.

                              The best overall solution is to partition the country along ethnic/language lines, or better yet (though less likely to happen) let the Ukrainian people themselves decide which side of the line they wish to live via regional plebiscites.
                              Really? Is that how it will work from here on out? Any country who believes it has a claim on land or people in another country will be able to invade?

                              Will the UK be willing to let of Northern Ireland?

                              Will France invade Canada to take Quebec?

                              Will Mexico attack the US and reclaim California, Arizona, and Texas?

                              Here's a good one - Will Japan invade Russia and reclaim the Kuril islands, and if so, will Russia just accept this?

                              No matter how you spin this, Russia has invaded another country with any valid reason. They aren't there to protect Russian citizens; They are not Russians at all but instead are Ukrainian citizens and have been since 1954. There was no violence going on, no threats, nothing, until the Russians invaded.
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                                • CDSmith
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                                  • May 2001
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                  Really? Is that how it will work from here on out? Any country who believes it has a claim on land or people in another country will be able to invade?

                                  Will the UK be willing to let of Northern Ireland?

                                  Will France invade Canada to take Quebec?

                                  Will Mexico attack the US and reclaim California, Arizona, and Texas?

                                  Here's a good one - Will Japan invade Russia and reclaim the Kuril islands, and if so, will Russia just accept this?

                                  No matter how you spin this, Russia has invaded another country with any valid reason. They aren't there to protect Russian citizens; They are not Russians at all but instead are Ukrainian citizens and have been since 1954. There was no violence going on, no threats, nothing, until the Russians invaded.
                                  A very reasoned argument. You should twitt your post directly to Putin, #fearlessleader.

                                  I'm sure he'll be receptive.
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                                    • Paul&John
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                      Really? Is that how it will work from here on out? Any country who believes it has a claim on land or people in another country will be able to invade?

                                      Will the UK be willing to let of Northern Ireland?

                                      Will France invade Canada to take Quebec?

                                      Will Mexico attack the US and reclaim California, Arizona, and Texas?

                                      Here's a good one - Will Japan invade Russia and reclaim the Kuril islands, and if so, will Russia just accept this?

                                      No matter how you spin this, Russia has invaded another country with any valid reason. They aren't there to protect Russian citizens; They are not Russians at all but instead are Ukrainian citizens and have been since 1954. There was no violence going on, no threats, nothing, until the Russians invaded.
                                      True....
                                      Btw there is a thing called Budapest Memorandum which states:

                                      According to the memorandum, Russia, the US, and the UK confirmed, in recognition of Ukraine becoming party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and in effect abandoning its nuclear arsenal to Russia, that they would:
                                      • Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders.
                                      • Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
                                      • Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
                                      • Seek United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine.
                                      • Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
                                      • Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.


                                      The first three are already ignored lol
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                                        • TheSquealer
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                                          • Oct 2004
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                                          #11
                                          At the end of it all, Putin out maneuvered the world. You were busy with Snowden, the Olympics and double toilets and stray dogs, gay rights, the oscars and whatever shitty reality show you love and he was busy executing his plan flawlessly. End of story. He won't be stopped and the world is full of pussies.

                                          The US and allies could place economic sanctions on Russia and shut them down financially, trade sanctions and cripple the economy and then flood the oil market with cheap oil (the only reason they climbed out of debt to begin with) and push Russia back into the Stone Age. Of course Putin calculates that each and every one of you are just a bunch of shiftless pussies too afraid to do anything and here he is. Why shouldn't they take a strategically important base back ? You have no answers other than wild fantasies about agreements that are never enforced or that are continually broken by all parties to begin with.

                                          One thing the west just refused to accept about Russia is that for Russia and it's leadership, the Cold War never was lost. It never even fucking ended. The west proclaimed it to be over and they never stopped fighting. Today, again you see the price to be paid for being out maneuvered by a shrewd politician who is better at his job than anyone else in the developed world.
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                                            • TheSquealer
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                                              • Oct 2004
                                              • 26292
                                              #12
                                              You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you
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                                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                • qwe
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                                                  #13
                                                  that's a fouls statement, russia said it's not true... so stop making shit up
                                                  http://lenta.ru/news/2014/03/03/ultimate/

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                                                        • GregE
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                          Really? ...
                                                          Yes, really.

                                                          My first comment wasn't about whether Russia's action was right or wrong. It simply addressed the reality that Russia won't give up (or seriously risk losing) it's only Black Sea port under any circumstances. No way, no how.

                                                          As for the rest, I still maintain that Ukraine is irrevocably divided, not because Putin or any other outsider says so, but because it really is. Therefore, the most civilized solution would entail allowing the Ukrainians themselves to decide, region by region, which way they wish to go. Now, of course it won't actually go down like that because that would make too much sense after all.

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                                                            • qwe
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                                                              #16
                                                              it's funny how cnn, bbc, etc know that this news is not true, but they're still posting it on their website

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                                                                • TheSquealer
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                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 26292
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by qwe
                                                                  it's funny how cnn, bbc, etc know that this news is not true, but they're still posting it on their website
                                                                  http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...A221AI20140303
                                                                  .
                                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                  Rochard

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                                                                    • ZiggiZiggiCrew
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                                                                      • Dec 2012
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                      Will the UK be willing to let of Northern Ireland?
                                                                      Will France invade Canada to take Quebec?
                                                                      hmmm...how about Granada?
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                                                                        • Paul
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                          At the end of it all, Putin out maneuvered the world. You were busy with Snowden, the Olympics and double toilets and stray dogs, gay rights, the oscars and whatever shitty reality show you love and he was busy executing his plan flawlessly. End of story. He won't be stopped and the world is full of pussies.

                                                                          The US and allies could place economic sanctions on Russia and shut them down financially, trade sanctions and cripple the economy and then flood the oil market with cheap oil (the only reason they climbed out of debt to begin with) and push Russia back into the Stone Age. Of course Putin calculates that each and every one of you are just a bunch of shiftless pussies too afraid to do anything and here he is. Why shouldn't they take a strategically important base back ? You have no answers other than wild fantasies about agreements that are never enforced or that are continually broken by all parties to begin with.

                                                                          One thing the west just refused to accept about Russia is that for Russia and it's leadership, the Cold War never was lost. It never even fucking ended. The west proclaimed it to be over and they never stopped fighting. Today, again you see the price to be paid for being out maneuvered by a shrewd politician who is better at his job than anyone else in the developed world.
                                                                          Ironically your avatar seems to sum up the situation well

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                                                                            • Scott McD
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                                                                              • Nov 2002
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                              Will the UK be willing to let of Northern Ireland?
                                                                              Northern Ireland should be put out of it's misery...


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                                                                                • qwe
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                  http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...A221AI20140303
                                                                                  as I posted before, http://lenta.ru/news/2014/03/03/ultimate/ go translate it with google

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                                                                                    • ZiggiZiggiCrew
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul&John
                                                                                      True....
                                                                                      Btw there is a thing called Budapest Memorandum which states:

                                                                                      According to the memorandum, Russia, the US, and the UK confirmed, in recognition of Ukraine becoming party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and in effect abandoning its nuclear arsenal to Russia, that they would:
                                                                                      • Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders.
                                                                                      • Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
                                                                                      • Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
                                                                                      • Seek United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine.
                                                                                      • Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
                                                                                      • Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.


                                                                                      The first three are already ignored lol
                                                                                      USA promise USSR do not accept East European countrys in NATO and now...? double standarts
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                                                                                        • ZiggiZiggiCrew
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by qwe
                                                                                          that's a fouls statement, russia said it's not true... so stop making shit up
                                                                                          http://lenta.ru/news/2014/03/03/ultimate/
                                                                                          of course, 100% shit
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                                                                                            • Kolargol
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew
                                                                                              USA promise USSR do not accept East European countrys in NATO and now...? double standarts
                                                                                              You can't see the difference between admitting free country to military club and invading one? "Hey, east european countries, dont go to NATO, its bad for you, stick with us, we might even invade your territory once in a while. Sounds good?"

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                                                                                                • Rochard
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 75764
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by GregE
                                                                                                  Yes, really.

                                                                                                  My first comment wasn't about whether Russia's action was right or wrong. It simply addressed the reality that Russia won't give up (or seriously risk losing) it's only Black Sea port under any circumstances. No way, no how.

                                                                                                  As for the rest, I still maintain that Ukraine is irrevocably divided, not because Putin or any other outsider says so, but because it really is. Therefore, the most civilized solution would entail allowing the Ukrainians themselves to decide, region by region, which way they wish to go. Now, of course it won't actually go down like that because that would make too much sense after all.
                                                                                                  Why does Russia need to have a Naval base in Crimea? They have coastline on the Black Sea without Crimea, so this isn't even a valid point to debate. If Russia wants a port and or a naval base on the Black Sea, well, build one. Soci is on the Black Sea, build one there.

                                                                                                  If Crimea wants to leave, do it legally. Not by force.
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                                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                    • qwe
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                      Why does Russia need to have a Naval base in Crimea? They have coastline on the Black Sea without Crimea, so this isn't even a valid point to debate. If Russia wants a port and or a naval base on the Black Sea, well, build one. Soci is on the Black Sea, build one there.

                                                                                                      If Crimea wants to leave, do it legally. Not by force.
                                                                                                      legally? Ukraine's new "government" is not legal, people did not choose them... as much as I dislike that idiot Yanukovich, he is LEGAL president CHOSEN by Ukrainians... Russia can't negotiate with ILLIGAL and NOT LEGIT Ukrainian "government" which forcefully took "power"... legal way should of been when Yanukovitch agreed to the new elections, when Yanukotivch signed papers with opposition AND with western countries, but somehow nobody talks about that

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                                                                                                        • qwe
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          it's like let's say USA population 300mill...

                                                                                                          10million protesters stormed white house in Washington, destroyed it, killed police and took power, would that be legal?

                                                                                                          10million protestors can't talk for whole 300million... same with Ukraine, 20,000 protestors can't talk for 50mill population, there has to be legit re elections for everyone to agree
                                                                                                          Last edited by qwe; 03-03-2014, 09:58 AM.

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                                                                                                            • Manfap
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Scott McD
                                                                                                              Northern Ireland should be put out of it's misery...
                                                                                                              You should have to take it with you when you leave.. hehe

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                                                                                                                • Rochard
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                  • 75764
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by qwe
                                                                                                                  legally? Ukraine's new "government" is not legal, people did not choose them... as much as I dislike that idiot Yanukovich, he is LEGAL president CHOSEN by Ukrainians... Russia can't negotiate with ILLIGAL and NOT LEGIT Ukrainian "government" which forcefully took "power"... legal way should of been when Yanukovitch agreed to the new elections, when Yanukotivch signed papers with opposition AND with western countries, but somehow nobody talks about that
                                                                                                                  What do do mean "new government"? The government of Ukraine voted and decided to remove the President, after months of their citizens protesting and calling for him to resign.

                                                                                                                  This is exactly how it works here in the US - Congress can remove a sitting president through a process called impeachment. It's not illegal and a new government is not installed; The next person in the line of succession takes charge.

                                                                                                                  Instead what's happened here is after months of protesting and calls for his resignation, the President was voted out of office by it's government, the president refused, and instead fled to Russia.

                                                                                                                  This is like Congress impeaching Obama and Mexico suddenly invading Texas saying "They need to protect Spanish speaking people".
                                                                                                                  Herschel Savage
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                                                                                                                    • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                      • 19841
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      something that you need to remember:

                                                                                                                      when ioulia timotchenko ruled the country, russia didn't invade ukraine while she is for europe. So i guess that problem is somewhere else for russia.

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                                                                                                                        • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                          • 19841
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                          This is like Congress impeaching Obama and Mexico suddenly invading Texas saying "They need to protect Spanish speaking people".
                                                                                                                          that's why they have guns there

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                                                                                                                            • SilentKnight
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                                                                                                                              • 24812
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                              Will France invade Canada to take Quebec?
                                                                                                                              1. Canada is perfectly willing to give Quebec to France - free. No invasion necessary. Hell, we'll even pay them.

                                                                                                                              2. France dislikes Quebec francophones...so no chance of that happening.

                                                                                                                              3. Using France and "invade" in the same sentence - too funny.

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                                                                                                                                • babymaker
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  The root of the town being CRIME is hilarious, condiering where it is. all the russian mod and internet scams that originate there lol. It's perfect

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                                                                                                                                    • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                      • 19841
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                                                                      2. France dislikes Quebec francophones...so no chance of that happening.
                                                                                                                                      not true

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                                                                                                                                        • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 19841
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SilentKnight

                                                                                                                                          3. Using France and "invade" in the same sentence - too funny.
                                                                                                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Serval


                                                                                                                                          sorry no english transalation
                                                                                                                                          http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Sangaris

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                                                                                                                                            • GregE
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                                                                              3. Using France and "invade" in the same sentence - too funny.
                                                                                                                                              Well, there was that little short guy who went by the name of Napoleon Bonaparte.

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                                                                                                                                                • TheSquealer
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                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 26292
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by GregE
                                                                                                                                                  Well, there was that little short guy who went by the name of Napoleon Bonaparte.
                                                                                                                                                  Let's not forget about one of their greatest military hero's ... a young teen schizophrenic girl, dressed as a boy.
                                                                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                                                                                                    • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 19841
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                      Let's not forget about one of their greatest military hero's ... a young teen schizophrenic girl, dressed as a boy.
                                                                                                                                                      lol

                                                                                                                                                      napoleon 3 won some wars too

                                                                                                                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War

                                                                                                                                                      (excepted against germany)
                                                                                                                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War

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                                                                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 75764
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                                                                                          1. Canada is perfectly willing to give Quebec to France - free. No invasion necessary. Hell, we'll even pay them.

                                                                                                                                                          2. France dislikes Quebec francophones...so no chance of that happening.

                                                                                                                                                          3. Using France and "invade" in the same sentence - too funny.
                                                                                                                                                          Oh shit, that was funny!

                                                                                                                                                          You just made my day!

                                                                                                                                                          Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                            • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 46234
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by GregE
                                                                                                                                                              Precisely.

                                                                                                                                                              The best overall solution is to partition the country along ethnic/language lines, or better yet (though less likely to happen) let the Ukrainian people themselves decide which side of the line they wish to live via regional plebiscites.
                                                                                                                                                              that's a great idea.. in fact let's break the entire plant into 20 acre plots with different and diverse cultures

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                                                                                                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 46234
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                  What do do mean "new government"? The government of Ukraine voted and decided to remove the President, after months of their citizens protesting and calling for him to resign.

                                                                                                                                                                  This is exactly how it works here in the US - Congress can remove a sitting president through a process called impeachment. It's not illegal and a new government is not installed; The next person in the line of succession takes charge.

                                                                                                                                                                  Instead what's happened here is after months of protesting and calls for his resignation, the President was voted out of office by it's government, the president refused, and instead fled to Russia.

                                                                                                                                                                  This is like Congress impeaching Obama and Mexico suddenly invading Texas saying "They need to protect Spanish speaking people".
                                                                                                                                                                  don't say that to loud pls

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                                                                                                                                                                    • wehateporn
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Smells of Western propaganda, not realistic

                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by halfpint
                                                                                                                                                                      Breaking News

                                                                                                                                                                      Russia's Black Sea Fleet has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 5:00 local time (03:00 GMT) on Tuesday to surrender or face an all-out assault, according to Ukrainian defence ministry sources quoted by Interfax-Ukraine news agency. "If by 5am tomorrow morning they do not surrender a real assault will begin on units and sections of the Ukrainian armed forces all over Crimea," defence ministry officials are quoted as saying. So far there is no further confirmation of the ultimatum from other sources.



                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26413953

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jman
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 22834
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                                                                                                          1. Canada is perfectly willing to give Quebec to France - free. No invasion necessary. Hell, we'll even pay them.

                                                                                                                                                                          2. France dislikes Quebec francophones...so no chance of that happening.

                                                                                                                                                                          3. Using France and "invade" in the same sentence - too funny.
                                                                                                                                                                          France dislikes Quebec Francophone... LMAO make it the other way around. You obviously have NO clue what you talking aboot The amount of french immigrant to Quebec for work is on the rise.

                                                                                                                                                                          Also Canada does NOT want Quebec to go again the other way around. Quebec as ressources Canada NEEDS we call it Hydro Electricity.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Sid70
                                                                                                                                                                              Downshifter
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 16413
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                              Really? Is that how it will work from here on out? Any country who believes it has a claim on land or people in another country will be able to invade?

                                                                                                                                                                              Will the UK be willing to let of Northern Ireland?

                                                                                                                                                                              Will France invade Canada to take Quebec?

                                                                                                                                                                              Will Mexico attack the US and reclaim California, Arizona, and Texas?

                                                                                                                                                                              Here's a good one - Will Japan invade Russia and reclaim the Kuril islands, and if so, will Russia just accept this?

                                                                                                                                                                              No matter how you spin this, Russia has invaded another country with any valid reason. They aren't there to protect Russian citizens; They are not Russians at all but instead are Ukrainian citizens and have been since 1954. There was no violence going on, no threats, nothing, until the Russians invaded.
                                                                                                                                                                              QTF, thanks.
                                                                                                                                                                              Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                                                                                                                                • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jman
                                                                                                                                                                                  The amount of french immigrant to Quebec for work is on the rise.
                                                                                                                                                                                  this is an ethnic invasion !

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jman
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                                                                                                                                      this is an ethnic invasion !
                                                                                                                                                                                      They actually call Quebec the El Dorado for French Europeans
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Did anyone think that the possibility now exists for us to have our very own Cold War?

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