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  • EddyTheDog
    Just Doing My Own Thing
    • Jan 2011
    • 25433

    #1

    It Looks Like Ukraine Might Split?..

    Its all very confusing - It looks like the president is trying to form a government in the east while the opposition take over in Kiev...

    Have I got that right?....
  • femdomdestiny
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    • Apr 2007
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    #2
    yep and that is best scenario to avoid what happened in Yugoslavia since it is coming form same kitchen.
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    • LightscapeMedia
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      • May 2010
      • 828

      #3
      In the game of Risk, the Ukraine is a very important territory to have if you want to hold Asia.

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      • LightscapeMedia
        DirtyPeach.com
        • May 2010
        • 828

        #4
        But seriously.. I've only been following this situation casually.. what do they want? Who's right?

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        • EddyTheDog
          Just Doing My Own Thing
          • Jan 2011
          • 25433

          #5
          Breaking: President just sacked by parliament...

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          • EddyTheDog
            Just Doing My Own Thing
            • Jan 2011
            • 25433

            #6
            Originally posted by LightscapeMedia
            But seriously.. I've only been following this situation casually.. what do they want? Who's right?
            It seems to be a fight between pro Euro and pro Russian groups - Lots of other factors as well, but that seems to be what it boils down to...

            Who's right? - Depends on who you ask of course - I would rather be part of Europe - But that's just me.....

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            • LightscapeMedia
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              #7
              So it's basically over whether to join the EU or not?

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              • MaDalton
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                #8
                Originally posted by LightscapeMedia
                So it's basically over whether to join the EU or not?
                no

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                • EddyTheDog
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LightscapeMedia
                  So it's basically over whether to join the EU or not?
                  No, that wont happen for a long time if at all - More about ties to Europe or Russia...

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                  • CAHEK
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                    • Aug 2003
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                    #10
                    Private residence of president in the outskirts of Kyiv after protesters stormed the building.



                    They looted some gold



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                    • pimpmaster9000
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                      • Dec 2011
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                      #11
                      shit I hope they don't go splitting ukraine over bullshit politics hoping the next government will be better...such a waste of lives to fight over who you will pay tax to next...
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                      • adultmobile
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                        • Nov 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by CAHEK
                        Private residence of president in the outskirts of Kyiv after protesters stormed the building.
                        Experts estimate the cost of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych?s private residence at 100m dollars. It is decorated with imported natural marble, Italian crystal and precious woods. For most of his career he was a public servant or parliament deputy, where his salary never exceeded 2000 US dollars per month.




                        Yanukovych is the occupier of 137 hectares (340 acres) of land on the banks of the river Dnieper. This is an area a little smaller than the principality of Monaco, which occupies 195 hectares.



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                        • mineistaken
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                          • Apr 2007
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                          #13
                          Russian thugs/chavs in Krym (which is predominantly Russian) acts like it is Russia (flags and all).

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                          • just a punk
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                            • Jun 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                            It Looks Like Ukraine Might Split?..
                            O'rly? You have discovered that only today? Congrats then
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                            • EddyTheDog
                              Just Doing My Own Thing
                              • Jan 2011
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                              #15
                              Former President just been refused access to flight to Russia - He is not going to get away that easily...

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                              • just a punk
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                It seems to be a fight between pro Euro and pro Russian groups
                                Wrong again. All pro-Euro people have gone from Maidan right when the Western radical nationalists have started a real civilian war (the first blood was put). You might be deaf if you haven't heard the new statements from the "rebels". Now they literally say: "fuck Russia, fuck America, fuck the EU, we will build our own national independent country". Even the local GFY Ukrainians think that way (proof).

                                The "rebels" are already controlling all the government buildings in Kiev. E.g.:



                                The message under Hitler's portraits says: "Hitler savior". Welcome to the reality, dude
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                                • just a punk
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                                  • Jun 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mineistaken
                                  Russian thugs/chavs in Krym (which is predominantly Russian) acts like it is Russia (flags and all).
                                  Perhaps because it's always been Russia.. No?
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                                  • mineistaken
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                                    • Apr 2007
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                    Perhaps because it's always been Russia.. No?
                                    So how come it is Ukrainian territory on the map?
                                    Russia is not one of those to give away their lands.
                                    Question is rhetorical.

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                                    • femdomdestiny
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                                      #19
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                                      • just a punk
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mineistaken
                                        So how come it is Ukrainian territory on the map?
                                        Learn history, dude. Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev has joined Krym to the Ukrainian SSR (Ukrainian Soviet Socialistic Republic) which was not Ukraine, but just a part of the USSR. In 1991 a drunk-head Yeltsin said: "yeah let Krym will be in Ukraine too". Sorry but a mind-less alcoholic can not decide for all those people that lived in Krym. I have a lot of contacts there and all those people has never considered themselves as Ukrainians. Furthermore, you may get your face beaten if you call a random Kryme citizen an Ukrainian ;)
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                                        • just a punk
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                                          What a surprise
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                                          • PerfectGem
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                                            • Jan 2007
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                                            #22
                                            Ukraine will not split, guys.
                                            Sure the politics can do that, but they only.

                                            And one more thing. I have no glue why russians so angry about the Ukraine?
                                            Personally, CyberSEO, you are totally wrong and see only what you want.
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                                            • mineistaken
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                              Learn history, dude. Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev has joined Krym to the Ukrainian SSR (Ukrainian Soviet Socialistic Republic) which was not Ukraine, but just a part of the USSR. In 1991 a drunk-head Yeltsin said: "yeah let Krym will be in Ukraine too". Sorry but a mind-less alcoholic can not decide for all those people that lived in Krym. I have a lot of contacts there and all those people has never considered themselves as Ukrainians. Furthermore, you may get your face beaten if you call a random Kryme citizen an Ukrainian ;)
                                              It is somehow very strange that 1954 Soviets were in business of giving away its territories
                                              They were iron fist and aspiring for expansion and yet they did the opposite with Krym? very strange.

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                                              • just a punk
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                                                • Jun 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PerfectGem
                                                Personally, CyberSEO, you are totally wrong and see only what you want.
                                                Let's wait for a few months and will see who was right. Ok?
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                                                • just a punk
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                  It is somehow very strange that 1954 Soviets were in business of giving away its territories
                                                  It's not just my personal opinion. It's a history. Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea. Educate yourself.

                                                  As about the Soviets and their imperial ambitions. The Soviet Union was the only crazy country that didn't use the controlled countries to get their resources (slaves, gold, natural resources etc as the Euro countries and USA did for 100's of years). On the contrary, the Soviets gave away their money, food, weapon and natural resources (oil and natural gas) to the "controlled" countries for free. Do you know how much of goods the Soviets gifted to Cuba, African countries and Eastern European ones (Poland, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, West Germany etc) for free? What the USSR got in return? Nothing but hate and anger.

                                                  This is why I was never supported commies that were always ready to give away wealth of the country to some foreign aborigines. Fuck commies and fuck their "imperial" politics.
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                                                  • MaxCandy
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                                    It seems to be a fight between pro Euro and pro Russian groups - Lots of other factors as well, but that seems to be what it boils down to...

                                                    Who's right? - Depends on who you ask of course - I would rather be part of Europe - But that's just me.....

                                                    Russia wants to keep control and does allot of shit to keep it.
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                                                    • mineistaken
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO

                                                      As about the Soviets and their imperial ambitions. The Soviet Union was the only crazy country that didn't use the controlled countries to get their resources (slaves, gold, natural resources etc as the Euro countries and USA did for 100's of years). On the contrary, the Soviets gave away their money, food, weapon and natural resources (oil and natural gas) to the "controlled" countries for free. Do you know how much of goods the Soviets gifted to Cuba, African countries and Eastern European ones (Poland, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, West Germany etc) for free? What the USSR got in return? Nothing but hate and anger.

                                                      This is why I was never supported commies that were always ready to give away wealth of the country to some foreign aborigines. Fuck commies and fuck their "imperial" politics.
                                                      Wow, just wow... Soviet occupants were god sent angels to give their resources to occupied countries. Why did they occupy them if they only lost money/resources and gained nothing?

                                                      You are seriously brainwashed product of Soviet/Russia propaganda.

                                                      By the way speaking of aborigenes - most of the occupied countries were close to countries like Finland in terms of ecconomy before they were occupied and after they regained independence they were lagging behind so much it was not even funny. Soviets only deminished and destroyed occupied territories and not the other way around like in your fantasies...

                                                      unbelievable...

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                                                      • Kolargol
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                                                        yep and that is best scenario to avoid what happened in Yugoslavia since it is coming form same kitchen.
                                                        there have never been separate east and west ukrainian nations in east and west Ukraine and definitely there have never been separate west and east Ukraine countries.
                                                        Not good comparison with yugoslavia.

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                                                        • PerfectGem
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                                                          • Jan 2007
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                          Let's wait for a few months and will see who was right. Ok?
                                                          Time is going ahead anyway, so we have no choice.
                                                          But for now please stop telling a one-side-true.
                                                          Every country has radicals, don't you think?
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                                                          • PerfectGem
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                            there have never been separate east and west ukrainian nations in east and west Ukraine and definitely there have never been separate west and east Ukraine countries.
                                                            Not good comparison with yugoslavia.
                                                            True.
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                                                            • just a punk
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                              Wow, just wow... Soviet occupants were god sent angels to give their resources to occupied countries. Why did they occupy them if they only lost money/resources and gained nothing?
                                                              You didn't know that? Please tell me what exactly Soviets git buck from Cuba, African countries, Poland, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, West Germany etc? Surprise me please, professor
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                                                              • Kolargol
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                Do you know how much of goods the Soviets gifted to Cuba, African countries and Eastern European ones (Poland, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, West Germany etc) for free? What the USSR got in return? Nothing but hate and anger.
                                                                East Berlin in 1953, Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968 - loads of "gifts" from USSR.

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                                                                • just a punk
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                                  East Berlin in 1953, Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968 - loads of "gifts" from USSR.
                                                                  Yes, loads of them. Google for Comecon, you clown. I'm getting tired of your stupidity.
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                                                                  • just a punk
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    More links for a clueless ones:

                                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba%E2...nion_relations
                                                                    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...i-economic-aid
                                                                    http://www.asj.upd.edu.ph/mediabox/a...-aid-india.pdf
                                                                    http://216.12.139.91/docs/DOC_000050...0000500543.pdf
                                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign...e_Soviet_Union

                                                                    Need more links, or find them by yourself, clown?
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                                                                    • Kolargol
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                      Yes, loads of them. Google for Comecon, you clown. I'm getting tired of your stupidity.
                                                                      We didn't want your oil in exchange for our coal. We wanted USSR army to get the fuck out but you didn't want to for 50 years or so. When we wanted to get rid of your "help" you came in with your tanks and shot or imprisoned everyone who had doubts about how lovely communism is.

                                                                      Also, try to limit your insults in this conversation if you can.

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                                                                      • just a punk
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                                        We didn't want your oil in exchange for our coal.
                                                                        Who are you? I have no idea who you are and what hole are you from. I've just told you a fact: Soviet Union has spent a lot of OUR OWN resources to various useless countries. I DO NOT support that ugly commie "imperial strategy". Those idiots were thinking to make happy everybody in the World but not its own citizens. Fuck Soviets, fuck commies, fuck their "commie allies".

                                                                        Even stupid Putin's thief regime is much better that commies that gave away everything to other countries and make its own people starving.







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                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          lol - i dont blame them - but the Russians emptied eastern Germany after 1945 - they took whole factories and even train tracks with them

                                                                          but the whole discussion on here is useless anyways - there are many Ukrainians here in Brno and all but one i spoke to tend towards west/EU

                                                                          right now it's more important that the democratic parties in the Ukraine find a common goal and not start fighting among each other on top of that.

                                                                          you cant turn history backwards - Yanukovitch is gone
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                                                                          • just a punk
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                            but the Russians emptied eastern Germany after 1945
                                                                            For no reason, of course

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                                                                            • Kolargol
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                              Those idiots were thinking to make happy everybody in the World but not its own citizens.
                                                                              USSR was buying machines and other goods from Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary paying 0.65 ruble for 1 dollar. Amazing deal isn't it? But you were fed with communist propaganda for years and you still don't know were the truth is. It was not PL, Cz and Hu armies who invaded USSR or was it? Or maybe it was not USSR that was Hitler's ally in 1939 invading Poland two weeks after german army?
                                                                              USSR loved us so much that when we wanted to liberate from soviet domination the tanks came in to change our minds.
                                                                              Thank you so much for making half Europe happy in this way.

                                                                              On the other hand - thank you for going away peacefully in the 90s, you could have slaughtered us but you didn't. That I appreciate.

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                                                                              • just a punk
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                                                USSR was buying machines and other goods from Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary paying 0.65 ruble for 1 dollar.
                                                                                LOL. Did you google for Comecon already, clown?
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                                                                                • just a punk
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                                                  On the other hand - thank you for going away peacefully in the 90s, you could have slaughtered us but you didn't. That I appreciate.
                                                                                  I could??? Are you sure? Perhaps a drunk-head Yeltsin had, but me? I was a young guy at those times who was not able to do anything about the foreign relations. Do you think I was giving a single fuck about your country? Maybe you think I give it today? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm too far away from that shit. I haven't invaded you in the middle of 20's century and I was unable (I had no intention for) to do something to you in 90's. I want to live my own life in my own country. Fuck commies and fuck their slippery "allies". I like to live in a country what doesn't care about you and other countries anymore. Business is business, everything else is a secondary thing
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                                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Ukraine's customs office boss.

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                                                                                    • Paul&John
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                      As about the Soviets and their imperial ambitions. The Soviet Union was the only crazy country that didn't use the controlled countries to get their resources (slaves, gold, natural resources etc as the Euro countries and USA did for 100's of years).
                                                                                      Yes you are right, they invaded every Eastern EU country with their army and they stayed here till 1989+ when the USSR ran out of money. Those fuckers brainwashed big part of the population and we are still suffering from that. So yes "big thanks" for that!
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                                                                                      • CAHEK
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                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • Grapesoda
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                          no

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                                                                                          other than natural resources and ethnic disparity and anger what is it ma?

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                                                                                          • Cyber Fucker
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Who knows, but that would be the worst scenario there. It would result in serious bloodshed on the scale that this what is now there would be nothing compared to what would happen there. Let's hope it won't happen.

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                                                                                            • mineistaken
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I am pretty sure it would not happen.

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                                                                                                #48
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                                                                                                • oppoten
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Kerch, Crimea

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                                                                                                  • just a punk
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                                                    Kerch, Crimea

                                                                                                    This is exactly what I was talking about. And this is what happens when Western Ukrainians try to declare their values to Eastern/Southern ones.

                                                                                                    Westerns speak Ukrainians and carry pro-Nazi Galizien flags (praising those who fought for Hitler). Easterns and Southerns speak Russian and carry flags with so-called Guardian colors (praising victory over Nazi Germany).

                                                                                                    They are too different too live together. You may accept it or not, but it's a fact.
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