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ING82 02-20-2014 06:04 PM

Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
 
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Supporters of a plan to divide California into six sates can begin collecting signatures to get the proposal on the ballot.

Secretary of State Debra Bowen announced that the proposed ballot initiative ? known as Six Californias ? could move forward Tuesday.

Under the plan, from venture capitalist Tim Draper, most of the Bay Area would be considered ?Silicon Valley.? Napa, Sonoma and Marin Counties would become part of ?North California.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...er-signatures/

:banana shits gettin real

crockett 02-20-2014 06:13 PM

You know how much that will cost in new flags...

fitzmulti 02-20-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19990259)
You know how much that will cost in new flags...

...and business cards, stationery, post office restructuring, etc, etc...LOL!

Bourke 02-20-2014 06:22 PM

This is my argument against Australia becoming a Republic. Cost vs benefit. What is the real benefit of becoming six individual states? Vs the cost of drafting all the new paperwork, forming new state govts, elections for them, re printing every single official state document a state has, reprinting all law books etc etc etc.
The cost must be huge.

Due 02-20-2014 06:23 PM

It gets an ok to collect signatures? I thought anyone could collect signatures for anything.

Grapesoda 02-20-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourke (Post 19990271)
This is my argument against Australia becoming a Republic. Cost vs benefit. What is the real benefit of becoming six individual states? Vs the cost of drafting all the new paperwork, forming new state govts, elections for them, re printing every single official state document a state has, reprinting all law books etc etc etc.
The cost must be huge.

some of it's about water rights and some of it is about working people in small communities supporting stuff in the big city they don't like or give a shit about

Bourke 02-20-2014 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19990289)
some of it's about water rights and some of it is about working people in small communities supporting stuff in the big city they don't like or give a shit about

If splitting into 6 smaller states fixes those issues, are those things being fixed worth that cost?

I don't know anything about the situation over there, but here in Australia the fight to be a republic is for nothing more than the ability to say we no longer are tied to the past and to Britain. Which has no real value. We dont pay them anything, they dont have any control over us, so why the need? The pay off does not outweigh the cost, not in the least.

Joshua G 02-20-2014 07:49 PM

pointless. dems in the beltway will never ever ever ever ever come even close to supporting this. Its DOA in congress.

Grapesoda 02-20-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourke (Post 19990295)
If splitting into 6 smaller states fixes those issues, are those things being fixed worth that cost?

I don't know anything about the situation over there, but here in Australia the fight to be a republic is for nothing more than the ability to say we no longer are tied to the past and to Britain. Which has no real value. We dont pay them anything, they dont have any control over us, so why the need? The pay off does not outweigh the cost, not in the least.

in a way yes, the split will address some issues... it will separate the agriculture from the cities.... California is basically a bunch or small farms and communities, not the 2 strip cities most associated with California, Ventura down to San Diego, and the 'bay area'... being supported by farming communities ... and the water is being directed from farms to the cites as well..

Bourke 02-20-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19990361)
in a way yes, the split will address some issues... it will separate the agriculture from the cities.... California is basically a bunch or small farms and communities, not the 2 strip cities most associated with California, Ventura down to San Diego, and the 'bay area'... being supported by farming communities ... and the water is being directed from farms to the cites as well..

Sure, but couldn't water rights laws be drafted, and most likely passed, for much less money and far easier than splitting one state into six?

Matt 26z 02-20-2014 08:53 PM

What will they do about existing state debt? How is that divided among the newly formed states?

brassmonkey 02-20-2014 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ING82 (Post 19990252)

http://www.jeffgothelf.com/blog/wp-c...04/unicorn.jpg

a kid could draw that map its fantasy. smaller cities have higher taxes

arock10 02-20-2014 09:20 PM

Make the senate reflect the population more?

blackmonsters 02-20-2014 09:23 PM

I hope they get what they want.
People deserve to live through the fucked up shit they dream up sometimes.

All but 3 of the states will go broke building prisons.

L-Pink 02-20-2014 09:26 PM

They're just one really good earthquake from having most of the state fall in the ocean anyway.

deltav 02-20-2014 09:40 PM

Jesus christ, it's just a petition written by some rich tech guy who wants to be an attention whore and get media coverage for his little West Coast fantasy. Each year there are state petitions circulated for all sorts of crazy shit. It means nothing. It's the sketchy dreadlocked guy on the streetcorner who accosts you asking if you'll sign the thing on his clipboard because he gets paid per signature.

And as usual it gets posted on GFY presented as something that might happen, and discussed like people are taking it seriously.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-20-2014 09:49 PM

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We, of the great State of Silicon Valley, hereby call for the liberation and unification with our brothers to the north in wine and weed country (we welcome them both, since we're their biggest consumers).

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Silicon Valley Uber Alles!!! :smokin

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Rochard 02-20-2014 10:44 PM

This will never happen. Ever.

Congress would have to approve it too.

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19990289)
some of it's about water rights and some of it is about working people in small communities supporting stuff in the big city they don't like or give a shit about

I don't think it's about water. The water flows from the hills and the lakes in Northern California, through Central California, and down to SoCal. The new "top states" (NorCal and "Jefferson") would have the water and control it, and would have little interest in sending it to the new lower states.


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