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Porko 02-19-2014 03:32 PM

Facebook Buying Messaging App WhatsApp for $16 Billion
 
Facebook is buying the hugely popular WhatsApp for $16 billion according to a filing with the SEC. The purchase, $4 billion in cash plus $12 billion in Facebook shares and potential for an additional $3 billion in employee stock payouts, will see WhatsApp founder Jan Koum joining Facebook's board of directors.

WhatsApp Messenger is a hugely popular cross-platform messaging app that allows users to chat with individuals or groups, as well as sending files and pictures back and forth.

Back in December, the service bragged that it had 400 million active users, with 100 million of those added in the last four months of 2013. Back in April of 2013, it was rumored that Google was close to acquiring the company for $1 billion -- something WhatsApp denied. Today's sale price reflects the company's tremendous growth over the last several months.

According to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg:
WhatsApp will complement our existing chat and messaging services to provide new tools for our community. Facebook Messenger is widely used for chatting with your Facebook friends, and WhatsApp for communicating with all of your contacts and small groups of people. Since WhatsApp and Messenger serve such different and important uses, we will continue investing in both and making them each great products for everyone.
The service is one of many messaging services available on iOS and other mobile platforms, including Apple's own iMessage service integrated into iOS and OS X. Such services have become increasingly popular as users seek to avoid mobile carriers' SMS charges and expand their conversations to include devices not directly connected to cellular service. WhatsApp says that the Facebook and WhatsApp messaging apps will remain standalone for the foreseeable future, and WhatsApp will remain autonomous, operating independently of Facebook.

The company's app is currently the 35th most popular on the App Store. Facebook says WhatsApp's messaging volume is "approaching the entire global telecom SMS volume", roughly 7 trillion message a year.

In April 2012, Facebook purchased Instagram for $1 billion.

Source: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/19/facebook-buying-whatsapp/

sandman! 02-19-2014 04:17 PM

seems everyone is using that app nowdays even i have it installed lol

CaptainWolfy 02-19-2014 04:22 PM

viber is way better than whatsapp.. check it out ;)

DamianJ 02-19-2014 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy (Post 19988778)
viber is way better than whatsapp.. check it out ;)

the 'better' one is the one that your friends are on. whatsapp has 450 million monthly users and adding 1 million a month.

seeandsee 02-19-2014 04:59 PM

wow never expect this goes for that much money!

_Richard_ 02-19-2014 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy (Post 19988778)
viber is way better than whatsapp.. check it out ;)

i like it too :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19988782)
the 'better' one is the one that your friends are on. whatsapp has 450 million monthly users and adding 1 million a month.

actually id rather go with the option that doesn't have obvious CIA links :)

RyuLion 02-19-2014 05:02 PM

Very nice!!!

mineistaken 02-19-2014 05:05 PM

So what is the benefits of this app over skype (where all your friends actually are)?

dyna mo 02-19-2014 05:06 PM

fb sweetened the deal, it's $19b now

the social network will grant an additional $3 billion worth of restricted stock units to WhatsApp's founders, including Koum.

I remember when time-warner aol deal was a staggering $25b!

mineistaken 02-19-2014 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19988822)
actually id rather go with the option that doesn't have obvious CIA links :)

May be valid point, there will be lots of info to mine on that app. Would this be profitable investment under normal circumstances? How many years to recoup investment? 100?

_Richard_ 02-19-2014 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19988832)
May be valid point, there will be lots of info to mine on that app. Would this be profitable investment under normal circumstances? How many years to recoup investment? 100?

definitely an interesting discussion.

However, i am curious about the if/when regarding phones that are 'data only'

fogfever 02-19-2014 05:41 PM

does whatsapp only have 55 employees?
16 billion is a lot of money for those employees!

mineistaken 02-19-2014 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fogfever (Post 19988864)
does whatsapp only have 55 employees?
16 billion is a lot of money for those employees!

Why do you think that 16B will go to employees and not owners?

arock10 02-19-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19988832)
May be valid point, there will be lots of info to mine on that app. Would this be profitable investment under normal circumstances? How many years to recoup investment? 100?

Never. Just like Instagram it's a market share maneuver to draw more into the Facebook ecosystem

crockett 02-19-2014 06:00 PM

16 billion? Where do they even come up with these values? It's like these tech companies just throw ridiculous amounts of money at shit, just because...

Lykos 02-19-2014 07:25 PM

Some serious cash involved !

DVTimes 02-19-2014 07:26 PM

Facebook to buy WhatsApp for $19bn

Facebook has bought messaging app WhatsApp in a deal worth a total of $19bn (£11.4bn) in cash and shares.

It is the social networking giant's biggest acquisition to date.

WhatsApp has over 450 million monthly users and is popular with people looking to avoid text messaging charges.

In a statement announcing the deal, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg described WhatsApp's services as "incredibly valuable".

WhatsApp allows users to send messages over internet connections, avoiding text messaging fees. The company claims it is currently registering one million new users a day.

It makes money by charging users a subscription fee of $1 per year, although it offers a free model as well.

More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26266689

L-Pink 02-19-2014 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19988877)
16 billion? Where do they even come up with these values? It's like these tech companies just throw ridiculous amounts of money at shit, just because...

I know, then they up the bid by 3 billion because 16 billion wasn't enough?


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mineistaken 02-19-2014 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19988873)
Never. Just like Instagram it's a market share maneuver to draw more into the Facebook ecosystem

But whatsapp plans to remain separate from FB ecosystem (just as it is now). Unless they have plans to integrate later.

slapass 02-19-2014 08:41 PM

40/ customer for something that some people pay $1/ hear for. I have it free though. Great dela for facebook. Doh!

Matt 26z 02-20-2014 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19988971)
But whatsapp plans to remain separate from FB ecosystem (just as it is now). Unless they have plans to integrate later.

It will no doubt be connected to FB and Instagram on the back end. The contents of your chats will influence the ads you see on Facebook.

Klen 02-20-2014 01:42 AM

Never heard for that app till now lol.And i though how 1bil for instagram was overkill

John-ACWM 02-20-2014 01:46 AM

It's a good app, I'm using it. Will make tons of money.

PornoMonster 02-20-2014 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 19988960)
Facebook to buy WhatsApp for $19bn

Facebook has bought messaging app WhatsApp in a deal worth a total of $19bn (£11.4bn) in cash and shares.

It is the social networking giant's biggest acquisition to date.

WhatsApp has over 450 million monthly users and is popular with people looking to avoid text messaging charges.

In a statement announcing the deal, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg described WhatsApp's services as "incredibly valuable".

WhatsApp allows users to send messages over internet connections, avoiding text messaging fees. The company claims it is currently registering one million new users a day.

It makes money by charging users a subscription fee of $1 per year, although it offers a free model as well.

More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26266689

I have never even heard of the app. Looks like it is already on my phone.
I also do not know what it does, and from what you posted, it allows people to send Messages over the Internet without Text Fees..

Umm who doesn't have unlimited texting these days? Unlimited anything?
I could see sending to another country maybe.

Only people I know that use wifi are people without a cell plan and No money...
Wonder how many adds they click on and buy, LOL.

Sure, there is prob some other things this app does, I am just going by the post I quoted..

SomeCreep 02-20-2014 02:47 AM

One word: bubble.

bloggerz 02-20-2014 03:18 AM

serious bizness

Porko 02-20-2014 03:49 AM

16,000,000,000 = About $35.50 per user..

TheDA 02-20-2014 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19989190)
I have never even heard of the app. Looks like it is already on my phone.
I also do not know what it does, and from what you posted, it allows people to send Messages over the Internet without Text Fees..

Umm who doesn't have unlimited texting these days? Unlimited anything?
I could see sending to another country maybe.

Only people I know that use wifi are people without a cell plan and No money...
Wonder how many adds they click on and buy, LOL.

Sure, there is prob some other things this app does, I am just going by the post I quoted..

Kids on PAYG for starters, it's huge with them.

DVTimes 02-20-2014 04:40 AM

i use it all the time.

i use the wifi at home as its much faster than using the mobile line.

slapass 02-20-2014 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porko (Post 19989246)
16,000,000,000 = About $35.50 per user..

They raised the price so closer to $40. They charge some people $1/year. So even if everyone paid it is 40 times revenue. Doh!

slapass 02-20-2014 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19989190)
I have never even heard of the app. Looks like it is already on my phone.
I also do not know what it does, and from what you posted, it allows people to send Messages over the Internet without Text Fees..

Umm who doesn't have unlimited texting these days? Unlimited anything?
I could see sending to another country maybe.

Only people I know that use wifi are people without a cell plan and No money...
Wonder how many adds they click on and buy, LOL.

Sure, there is prob some other things this app does, I am just going by the post I quoted..

I think there largest user base is in "Emerging Markets". It is huge in Brazil and sort of a status symbol as only smart phones have it.

lagcam 02-20-2014 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19988877)
16 billion? Where do they even come up with these values? It's like these tech companies just throw ridiculous amounts of money at shit, just because...

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19988964)
I know, then they up the bid by 3 billion because 16 billion wasn't enough?

Valuation and revaluation carried out by GFY user Cam_girls using his "how much money do Live Jasmin make?" logic and basis of calculation.

freecartoonporn 02-20-2014 06:19 AM

thats a lot money.

djroof 02-20-2014 06:20 AM

this called real biz and serious cash...

Klen 02-20-2014 07:19 AM

Well this give me idea-i could create a site where i would pay 1$ each user for registration,so once i get 500 million users,i'l pay that 500 mil but i'l earn 16 bil so that's still profit.

MaDalton 02-20-2014 07:23 AM

sometimes being denied is a good way to start something new

https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/...03902618_n.png

19 billion dollars later he's probably quite happy about that

inabon 02-20-2014 07:37 AM

android skype sucks ass. whats app is very popular down here and in many countries other than USA. Hopefully it will gain more popularity and they add video and audio realtime capabilities.

J. Falcon 02-20-2014 08:03 AM

Can't believe there are so many people who aren't familiar with WhatsAP. I think it's not very popular in the states, as almost none of my American friends have heard of it.

notinmybackyard 02-20-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19988877)
16 billion? Where do they even come up with these values? It's like these tech companies just throw ridiculous amounts of money at shit, just because...

Without a doubt.
This is all a ponzi scam and sooner or later this will come crashing to an end.

mineistaken 02-20-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inabon (Post 19989427)
android skype sucks ass. whats app is very popular down here and in many countries other than USA. Hopefully it will gain more popularity and they add video and audio realtime capabilities.

I never ever had been asked about whatsapp, everybody asks about skype. Take this forum as well - did anyone post their whatsapp number instead of skype etc?
I am no sure where are you pulling that big popularity of whatsapp in comparison to skype.

_Richard_ 02-20-2014 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19989416)
sometimes being denied is a good way to start something new

https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/...03902618_n.png

19 billion dollars later he's probably quite happy about that

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

nicely done

SykkBoy 02-20-2014 11:02 AM

I, like apparently others here, had never heard of it until this news...and now will probably have to download it...

good on them to stick with their dream and then turn it into billions.

redbusiness 02-20-2014 01:18 PM

So I will leave whatsapp... Dont want to have that all my datas are in the net...like facebook

mineistaken 02-20-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy (Post 19989707)
I, like apparently others here, had never heard of it until this news...and now will probably have to download it...

If you never heard about it it means you have no need for it (otherwise at least one of your friends would have suggested to connect there).

xNetworx 02-20-2014 01:25 PM

The NSA loves this deal :2 cents:

Porko 02-22-2014 03:48 PM

WhatsApp gone down for hours days after Facebook purchase

http://www.express.co.uk/news/scienc...ebook-purchase

Roald 02-23-2014 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19989642)
I never ever had been asked about whatsapp, everybody asks about skype. Take this forum as well - did anyone post their whatsapp number instead of skype etc?
I am no sure where are you pulling that big popularity of whatsapp in comparison to skype.

Your WA number is your phone number.

WA is huge over here in Holland, I use it myself a lot too.

babymaker 02-23-2014 12:41 AM

Never heard of it in US either. Even ghetto fone services have unlimited text. They should have got paid in bitcoins :)

notinmybackyard 02-23-2014 07:32 AM

From their wikipedia page :
Quote:

Upon installation, it creates a user account using one's phone number as the username (Jabber ID: [phone number]@s.whatsapp.net). WhatsApp software automatically compares all the phone numbers from the device's address book with its central database of WhatsApp users to automatically add contacts to the user's WhatsApp contact list.
This is about the United States being able to "Social Media Manipulate" the Ukranian unrest to their own best interests.

The first clue something stinks is paying 16(19) billion for a cell phone application that can be easily replaced with an unlimited text message plan.

The second clue just happens that this one was designed by a Ukrainian and it is popular in nations where Facebook never got a firm hold in.

The third is there is certainly other applications that can do similar that would have been a lot cheaper.

Antonio 02-23-2014 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19989168)
Never heard for that app till now lol.And i though how 1bil for instagram was overkill

Its probably the only app that I've heard of, never used it though


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