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brassmonkey 02-03-2014 11:36 AM

Philip Seymour Hoffman Had 50 Bags of Heroin, Police Say
 
Investigators found roughly 50 bags of heroin and used syringes in Philip Seymour Hoffman's West Village apartment, police told ABC News.

This information comes one day after the Oscar-winning actor was found inside his New York apartment. Hoffman was 46 years old.

Police sources say Hoffman was found unconscious at around 11:15 a.m. Sunday on the bathroom floor of his apartment by friend and screenwriter David Bar Katz, who called 911. Hoffman was pronounced dead at the scene.

He was supposed to pick up his three children Sunday, but never showed.

He was last seen at 8 p.m. Saturday night.

The cause of death has not yet been determined, but should be coming later today. The New York City Police Department is continuing to investigate.

A law enforcement official told ABC News that investigators found 50 bags of heroin along with used syringes in Hoffman's apartment along with drug paraphernalia and prescription drugs.

Hoffman's family released a statement following his death.

"We are devastated by the loss of our beloved Phil and appreciate the outpouring of love and support we have received from everyone," the statement reads. "This is a tragic and sudden loss and we ask that you respect our privacy during this time of grieving. Please keep Phil in your thoughts and prayers."

Hoffman was known as an actor's actor, a performer who embraced the acting craft while shirking much of the celebrity surrounding his success. His early career was marked by supporting roles ? snotty student George Willis, Jr. in "Scent of a Woman"; brown-nosing assistant Brant in "The Big Lebowski"; smarmy boom operator Scotty in "Boogie Nights."

His success in "Boogie Nights," directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, served as his breakout, and from there he continued to churn out powerful performances. In "Magnolia," Hoffman shined as Phil, a nurse caring for a dying patient. "The Talented Mr. Ripley" showcased Hoffman's scene-stealing abilities alongside Matt Damon, Gwyneth Paltrow and Jude Law.

In "25th Hour," Hoffman brought haunting depth to a high school teacher enamored by one of his students.

And in 2004's "Along Came Polly," Hoffman showed off his humorous side as Sandy, a child star turned middle-aged schlub.

Hoffman didn't look like an A-list star. Too doughy, too normal-looking. Those looks allowed him to slink into his roles, to bring unique, genuine touch to his characters.

By 2005, the actor's actor became a leading man. His performance in "Capote" ? which detailed Truman Capote's experience penning the book "In Cold Blood" ? earned Hoffman the Best Actor Academy Award and the Golden Globe Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture Drama.

Three additional Best Supporting Actor Oscar nominations followed ? for "The Master," "Doubt," and "Charlie Wilson's War."

As his career built, Hoffman struggled with the trappings of fame, a topic he addressed in a 2011 interview with Britain's Guardian newspaper.

"I think that's pretty much the human condition, you know, waking up and trying to live your day in a way that you can go to sleep and feel OK about yourself," he said.

Hoffman battled addiction as well ? receiving treatment for drug and alcohol addiction in his early 20s, not long after graduating from New York University.

"I went [to rehab], I got sober when I was 22 years old," he revealed during a 2006 interview with CBS News' "60 Minutes." "You get panicked ? and I got panicked for my life."

Hoffman said he was lucky he got sober before becoming famous and had the money to feed his addiction.

"I have so much empathy for these young actors that are 19 and all of a sudden they're beautiful and famous and rich," he said in the interview. "I'm like, 'Oh my God, I'd be dead.'"

The actor said he kicked the habit for 23 years and remained sober until May 2013, when he briefly relapsed ? after admitting to snorting heroin ? and returned to rehab, spending 10 days in a detox program.

The second of four children, Hoffman was born on July 23, 1967 in Fairport, N.Y., to mother Marilyn O'Connor (née Loucks), a lawyer, and father Gordon Stowell Hoffman who worked for Xerox.

He graduated with a BFA in drama from New York University's Tisch School of the Arts in 1989 and began his film career in 1991, starring in his debut role in the indie production "Triple Bogey on a Par Five Hole."

Beyond movies, Hoffman also shined on Broadway, receiving two Tony nominations for Best Actor in 2000 for a revival of Sam Shepard's "True West" and again in 2003 for a revival of Eugene O'Neill's "Long Day's Journey into Night."

In 2012, Hoffman starred as Willy Loman in the Broadway revival of Arthur Miller's "Death of a Salesman," receiving rave reviews from critics and his third Tony Award nomination as Best Leading Actor in a Play.

He made his film directorial debut in 2010 with "Jack Goes Boating."

Hoffman's passing comes amid a flurry of new and upcoming projects. He appears in the 2014 movies "God's Pocket" and "A Most Wanted Man," along with "The Hunger Games: Mockingjay" Part 1 and 2, scheduled for release in the coming years.

He was also slated to star in the Showtime series, "Happyish."

Showtime executives released a statement Sunday, describing Hoffman was "one of our generation's finest and most brilliant actors."

Hoffman is survived by his girlfriend, costume designer Mimi O'Donnell, their son, Cooper, 10 and two daughters, Tallulah, 7, and Willa, 5.

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JockoHomo 02-03-2014 11:52 AM

Maybe he shopped at Costco.

nikki99 02-03-2014 12:00 PM

how many bags has Floyd Mayweather ?

slapass 02-03-2014 12:05 PM

How do you ever convince yourself to try it the first time? "Here is a really addictive and dangerous substance. I think I will give it a go."

JockoHomo 02-03-2014 12:17 PM

http://31.media.tumblr.com/53505ee3e...ick5o1_400.gif

CDSmith 02-03-2014 12:20 PM

The guy had everything. Monumental talent, a seemingly endless amount of movie projects, a budding directorial career on top of that, family, kids, and millions upon millions in wealth and much more on the way. Such a waste.

I feel bad for his family. How does this affect how the kids turn out when a larger-than-life parent does this?

dyna mo 02-03-2014 12:27 PM

This ain't Inglewood.

http://i.imgur.com/XGAEOVC.jpg

NEW XTC 02-03-2014 12:27 PM

poor kids...all the pride and glory of having a superstar father just wiped out by a sleazy death that will forever define his legacy.

money biz 02-03-2014 12:31 PM

thats alot of H even the most hardcore addicts know to not keep that much on you at a time cus of the huge prison time.

Jman 02-03-2014 12:33 PM

Maybe he had it planned to be his last trip...

sandman! 02-03-2014 12:35 PM

sounds like a big party :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

whOaKemosabe 02-03-2014 12:36 PM

hey thats great

topsiteking 02-03-2014 12:50 PM

Very sad.
One of the greats.

mozadek 02-03-2014 09:40 PM

Fuck that selfish junkie!

mineistaken 02-03-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19968338)
How do you ever convince yourself to try it the first time? "Here is a really addictive and dangerous substance. I think I will give it a go."

Good question, must be dumb as fuck :1orglaugh

Spunky 02-03-2014 09:56 PM

Another talent snuffed by the dragon

The Porn Nerd 02-03-2014 10:23 PM

Extremely sad. I used to see him around the Village, buying donuts and milk. LOL Nice guy. What a sad sad shame.

kane 02-03-2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19968338)
How do you ever convince yourself to try it the first time? "Here is a really addictive and dangerous substance. I think I will give it a go."

I think for a lot of drug addicts it is because they are chasing that first high. They do something like coke and it gets them high, but eventually you have to do more and more to get the same level of high because your body builds up a tolerance to it. So some of them decide to try something else and it is amazing so they keep doing it.

I also think a lot of people feel like they will never get addicted. I doubt many people who are addicts had any idea they would get addicted the first time they took it. They assumed they could try it once and be good, but that is clearly not the case for some.

mineistaken 02-03-2014 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19968913)
I doubt many people who are addicts had any idea they would get addicted the first time they took it.

So like I said - you must be dumb as fuck. As any intelligent person knows that heroine is extremely addictive.
Natural selection.

adultchatpay 02-04-2014 12:03 AM

He is a coke lover! They die very young.

John-ACWM 02-04-2014 01:54 AM

Too bad, very talented :(

seeandsee 02-04-2014 07:00 AM

he was big customer...

michael.kickass 02-04-2014 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19968922)
So like I said - you must be dumb as fuck.
Natural selection.

I would say they're weak, not dumb. :2 cents:

Choopa_Pardo 02-04-2014 07:37 AM

Fuck heroin. One of the best actors of the past 20 years. I watched Synedoche - New York again yesterday. If you haven't sen it yet, please do yourself a favor and do so immediately. Charlie Kaufmann and PSH at their very best. Ebert said it was the best film of the decade, and he was right.

Such a talented guy. Fuck heroin.

tony286 02-04-2014 07:47 AM

I read an interesting article. That alot of the heroin overdoses happen with addicts that have been sober for a while. The theory is their tolerance goes way down from not using and then they shoot up with the same dose they used before and it kills them.

idolbucks 02-04-2014 08:03 AM

Guess he's playing a dead man now :(

Rochard 02-04-2014 09:29 AM

That's a lot of smack. Party time.

mineistaken 02-04-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael.kickass (Post 19969235)
I would say they're weak, not dumb. :2 cents:

I would say both. Weak for taking the second shot, but for taking the first?
Is that weakness that you ant to try something that is dangerous and you know that it is huge possibility that you end up addicted and even worse?

Tom_PM 02-04-2014 10:27 AM

They say nicotine is harder to quit than heroin, so you can't tell me it's that freaking hard to quit heroin since I've quit nicotine.
He clearly wanted to be high on heroin but shot up too much and died.
Sorry to his fans and sad for his family.

JFK 02-04-2014 10:50 AM

The headlines are sensational as per usual. 50 "Bags" brings all kinds of conjecture to the picture, how big are "bags" a shopping bag ? Are they not in little plastic pockets ?:2 cents:

Choopa Phil 02-04-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19969541)
They say nicotine is harder to quit than heroin, so you can't tell me it's that freaking hard to quit heroin since I've quit nicotine.
He clearly wanted to be high on heroin but shot up too much and died.
Sorry to his fans and sad for his family.

Nicotine withdrawal cant kill you. Heroin withdrawal can...I think its safe to say nicotine is exponentially easier to quit.

Joshua G 02-04-2014 11:59 AM

according to dyna mo, you are all wrong. there is no addiction & hoffman chose to die.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19969677)
according to dyna mo, you are all wrong. there is no addiction & hoffman chose to die.

The butthurt lingers with this one.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-04-2014 12:09 PM

Oh, and shitty effort on your part to distort what I said to try and make it me v. every else, fuck wad.

FTR a junkie is a fucking addict that chooses the life.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 12:13 PM

for dipshit josh-

junk·ie also junk·y (jŭng′kē)
n. pl. junk·ies Slang
1. A narcotics addict, especially one using heroin.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/junkie

dyna mo 02-04-2014 12:21 PM

More for shitstain josh

Addiction Is a Choice

Quote:

Scientifically, the contention that addiction is a disease is empirically unsupported. Addiction is a behavior and thus clearly intended by the individual person. - See more at: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/addi....4QFkKb7E.dpuf
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/addi...diction-choice

Is Addiction a Rational Choice?
Quote:

Addicts, until their very last breath, have the choice to remain ensconced in their addiction or choose a healthier life...but addicts don?t always know that and those that do often need help changing.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...-says-maybe-so

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...iction/280080/
Quote:

Research has shown that beating addiction is ultimately about regarding addicts as people who can rationally choose.
Quote:

Addiction is NOT a Brain Disease, It is a Choice
http://www.thecleanslate.org/myths/a...t-is-a-choice/

dipshit motherfucker.

TheSquealer 02-04-2014 12:50 PM

Addiction is not necessarily a choice.
The act of using the drug is a choice.

TheSquealer 02-04-2014 12:52 PM

Similarly, a wide range of genetic factors play a role in obesity.
It's still does not change the fact that you can't get fat without stuffing too many calories into your face.

Possessing certain genetic traits related to obesity is not a choice.
Becoming obese is certainly a choice.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 01:04 PM

I'm going by my direct experience corroborated by concrete research.



pre-disposition v. pre-determination


Quote:

Heyman points out that some psychiatric disorders can be influenced by outsides, such as concern over legal consequences and respect from children and parents. Other disorders, like schizophrenia, can't be influenced by opinions of others. The schizophrenic may know that by hallucinating they will embarrass their children, but they will continue to hallucinate.

When looking at drug addicts, one of the main things that stopped addicts from using was the concern over what their parents and children thought of them. There were costs and benefits to their addiction.
Research has proven "most addicts quit."

Quote:

One of the reasons Heyman says he wrote Addiction: A Disorder of Choice is to let the public know that most addicts quit and it is not the chronic relapse disease it is portrayed to be. Of all psychiatric disorders, it has the highest remission rate.

When researching Addiction: A Disorder of Choice, Heyman looked at every study he could comparing people who quit drugs to those who did not. The most common factor in the people who did not quit was the presence of an additional disorder, whether it was medical or psychiatric. Heyman believes coexisting disorders keep some addicts from seeking treatment.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 01:12 PM

The rational choices of crack addicts:

Dr. Hart..., Like other scientists, hoped to find a neurological cure to addiction, some mechanism for blocking that dopamine activity in the brain so that people wouldn’t succumb to the otherwise irresistible craving for cocaine, heroin and other powerfully addictive drugs.

But then, when he began studying addicts, he saw that drugs weren’t so irresistible after all.

“Eighty to 90 percent of people who use crack and methamphetamine don’t get addicted,” said Dr. Hart, an associate professor of psychology. “And the small number who do become addicted are nothing like the popular caricatures.”

Dr. Hart recruited addicts by advertising in The Village Voice, offering them a chance to make $950 while smoking crack made from pharmaceutical-grade cocaine. Most of the respondents, like the addicts he knew growing up in Miami, were black men from low-income neighborhoods. To participate, they had to live in a hospital ward for several weeks during the experiment.

At the start of each day, as researchers watched behind a one-way mirror, a nurse would place a certain amount of crack in a pipe — the dose varied daily — and light it. While smoking, the participant was blindfolded so he couldn’t see the size of that day’s dose.

Then, after that sample of crack to start the day, each participant would be offered more opportunities during the day to smoke the same dose of crack. But each time the offer was made, the participants could also opt for a different reward that they could collect when they eventually left the hospital. Sometimes the reward was $5 in cash, and sometimes it was a $5 voucher for merchandise at a store.

When the dose of crack was fairly high, the subject would typically choose to keep smoking crack during the day. But when the dose was smaller, he was more likely to pass it up for the $5 in cash or voucher.

“They didn’t fit the caricature of the drug addict who can’t stop once he gets a taste,” Dr. Hart said. “When they were given an alternative to crack, they made rational economic decisions.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/sc...anted=all&_r=0

Joshua G 02-04-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19969742)
Addiction is not necessarily a choice.

not according to dyna mo...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19967570)
addictive personality is a theory. One I don't subscribe to whatsoever.

so theres no need for 12 steps or rehab or nothing cause its all just in the junkies head. their brains are not chemically changed to become dependant on the drug.

all lies according to dyna mo. :1orglaugh

Joshua G 02-04-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19969768)
The rational choices of crack addicts:

Dr. Hart..., Like other scientists, hoped to find a neurological cure to addiction, some mechanism for blocking that dopamine activity in the brain so that people wouldn’t succumb to the otherwise irresistible craving for cocaine, heroin and other powerfully addictive drugs.

But then, when he began studying addicts, he saw that drugs weren’t so irresistible after all.

Eighty to 90 percent of people who use crack and methamphetamine don’t get addicted,” said Dr. Hart, an associate professor of psychology. “And the small number who do become addicted are nothing like the popular caricatures.”

Dr. Hart recruited addicts by advertising in The Village Voice, offering them a chance to make $950 while smoking crack made from pharmaceutical-grade cocaine. Most of the respondents, like the addicts he knew growing up in Miami, were black men from low-income neighborhoods. To participate, they had to live in a hospital ward for several weeks during the experiment.

At the start of each day, as researchers watched behind a one-way mirror, a nurse would place a certain amount of crack in a pipe — the dose varied daily — and light it. While smoking, the participant was blindfolded so he couldn’t see the size of that day’s dose.

Then, after that sample of crack to start the day, each participant would be offered more opportunities during the day to smoke the same dose of crack. But each time the offer was made, the participants could also opt for a different reward that they could collect when they eventually left the hospital. Sometimes the reward was $5 in cash, and sometimes it was a $5 voucher for merchandise at a store.

When the dose of crack was fairly high, the subject would typically choose to keep smoking crack during the day. But when the dose was smaller, he was more likely to pass it up for the $5 in cash or voucher.

“They didn’t fit the caricature of the drug addict who can’t stop once he gets a taste,” Dr. Hart said. “When they were given an alternative to crack, they made rational economic decisions.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/sc...anted=all&_r=0

your own fucking quote contradicts what you say, that there are no addictive personality. well according to your own bullshit, 10 - 20% do get addicted.

do you even read what you post or do you just not understand what you read? :1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-04-2014 01:30 PM

dipshit josh, you're in over your head.

I'd suggest to you to try and keep up but you obviously fail at that.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 01:32 PM

Again, for the adults that can read.

A junkie is an addict. 80-90% of hard drug users do not get addicted. Those that do are not addictive personalities, they choose to use.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 01:36 PM

I would argue that dipshit josh has a genetic predisposition for stupidity.

Bryan G 02-04-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19969795)
Again, for the adults that can read.

A junkie is an addict. 80-90% of hard drug users do not get addicted. Those that do are not addictive personalities, they choose to use.

Because one doctor says so? Have you ever even tried hard drugs in your life? Ever done coke, tried crack or heroin? Please tell us all because you obviosly have a PhD in the matter,

Bryan G 02-04-2014 04:51 PM

Anyone that thinks addiction is a choice needs to have a word with themselves. Utter bullshit if you believe that.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19970008)
Because one doctor says so? Have you ever even tried hard drugs in your life? Ever done coke, tried crack or heroin? Please tell us all because you obviosly have a PhD in the matter,

sure have. In fact, I was in recovery for 4 years. Why not read the other thread where dipshit josh is dragging this out from.

Then go fuck yourself.

Bryan G 02-04-2014 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19970021)
sure have. In fact, I was in recovery for 4 years. Why not read the other thread where dipshit josh is dragging this out from.

Then go fuck yourself.

You high now? Why the need to insult people all the time? I liked you better when you were on that crazy diet. So no such thing as addiction right? Again have a word with yourself you have changed dude.

dyna mo 02-04-2014 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19970023)
You high now? Why the need to insult people all the time? I liked you better when you were on that crazy diet. So no such thing as addiction right? Again have a word with yourself you have changed dude.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19970008)
Because one doctor says so? Have you ever even tried hard drugs in your life? Ever done coke, tried crack or heroin? Please tell us all because you obviosly have a PhD in the matter,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19970015)
Anyone that thinks addiction is a choice needs to have a word with themselves. Utter bullshit if you believe that.

You came after me you stupid mother fucker.

Now go hang yourself with your fucking scarf you stupid fuck.


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