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xxxjay 01-29-2014 09:36 AM

program owners...mailing solutions
 
Does anybody have any mailing solutions they like other than mailing straight out of NATS? I find the throughput is not what I would like it to be.

Suggestions?

Dirty D 01-29-2014 09:39 AM

Check out www.phplist.com it works great.
Make sure to use it on a fresh IP or one that is not already tainted.

Chris 01-29-2014 09:45 AM

check out www.ynotmail.com

xxxjay 01-29-2014 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 19961880)
Check out www.phplist.com it works great.
Make sure to use it on a fresh IP or one that is not already tainted.

Good tip, thanks :-)

Barefootsies 01-29-2014 09:55 AM

If you're sending email, the goal is not just to "send email" as a mass volume, throwing shit against the wall strategy.

The goal should be to inbox and increase traffic/conversions/branding of whatever you end objective is for the product or website. That can take a lot more than simply loading up an old or current membership list and hitting send. Effective delivery involves creatives, subject lines, quality of your ip's, content of the message, spam score, so on and so forth.

In short, anyone can send email. However, your objective should be effective email marketing.

:2 cents:

DamianJ 01-29-2014 10:06 AM

phplist is ok for free, but I think you'd find OEMPro or Interspire Email Marketer (which is what YNOTMail uses) much easier/better.

Then there is all the set up with feedback loops, DKIM, SPF records etc.

And then, as barefootsies says, there is the strategy, and that is the hard bit.

KickAssJesse 01-29-2014 10:08 AM

Have you tried 1st mac mailer? It's a really useful app for mac.

Rochard 01-29-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19961885)

What he said. I'll send you a demo!

Jman 01-29-2014 10:21 AM

Jay, sent you a message on Facebnook. We have something, it is an on invite only (for now) mailing solution and would be nice to have you on board.

Works with Nats as a plugin and you do NOT have to give your email DB ;)

FUCK J0EL 01-29-2014 11:32 AM

You know who does it best ;)
You know where to find me

xxxjay 01-29-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jman (Post 19961938)
Jay, sent you a message on Facebnook. We have something, it is an on invite only (for now) mailing solution and would be nice to have you on board.

Works with Nats as a plugin and you do NOT have to give your email DB ;)

I am checking my FB now.

xxxjay 01-29-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J0EL (Post 19962042)
You know who does it best ;)
You know where to find me

Yeah, Let's get something going. are you on Skype?

FUCK J0EL 01-29-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19962049)
Yeah, Let's get something going. are you on Skype?

Skype is down for me at the office for now
Add me and I'll reply as soon as it comes back
gamma_joel

Barefootsies 01-29-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19961911)
Then there is all the set up with feedback loops, DKIM, SPF records etc.

And then, as barefootsies says, there is the strategy, and that is the hard bit.

True dat. Anyone can hit send and spam away with reckless disregard.

Effective email marketing is something all together different.

:2 cents:

Ferus 01-29-2014 12:29 PM

http://www.phplist.com/ is good. But make sure you set your SPF record right, so you dont end up in your customers spamfilter

AmeliaG 01-29-2014 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 19961880)
Check out www.phplist.com it works great.
Make sure to use it on a fresh IP or one that is not already tainted.


What Dirty D said combined with SMTP.com :thumbsup

xxxjay 01-29-2014 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 19962600)
What Dirty D said combined with SMTP.com :thumbsup

Thanks to both of you guys, it is way too easy to burn and IP these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J0EL (Post 19962071)
Skype is down for me at the office for now
Add me and I'll reply as soon as it comes back
gamma_joel

Joel, I sent you an email, I'm sure there is a way we can trace of joins back and forth

dillonaire 01-29-2014 10:12 PM

I recommend https://messagebus.com/

But DamianJ and BF also gave solid recommendations.

Zeiss 01-30-2014 02:02 AM

I have a small custom mailer for each site (better targeting, yes?) but I could use something else, as well. What's the better option out there?

xxxjay 01-30-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19961900)
If you're sending email, the goal is not just to "send email" as a mass volume, throwing shit against the wall strategy.

The goal should be to inbox and increase traffic/conversions/branding of whatever you end objective is for the product or website. That can take a lot more than simply loading up an old or current membership list and hitting send. Effective delivery involves creatives, subject lines, quality of your ip's, content of the message, spam score, so on and so forth.

In short, anyone can send email. However, your objective should be effective email marketing.

:2 cents:

that is more of a mainstream type mailing approach with the hard-sell, soft cell pattern. With adult you just send out a half-price offer, target the best you can... it's not anything you can overthink

Raja 01-30-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J0EL (Post 19962071)
Skype is down for me at the office for now
Add me and I'll reply as soon as it comes back
gamma_joel

+1 for Joel. Also it's one less thing you need to worry about.

Barefootsies 01-30-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19963258)
that is more of a mainstream type mailing approach with the hard-sell, soft cell pattern. With adult you just send out a half-price offer, target the best you can... it's not anything you can overthink

No offense, that is completely naive.

If you think there is no difference between effective delivering to the inbox versus the junk box (strategy/technique), or managing your data (cleaning out screamers, bounces, unsubs, etc), so that you do not burn out your ip's or their reputation........ that goes to show how little you know about email marketing in that regard.

If does not matter if you're sending adult half price offers, or mainstream flexhose. The goal is to not get complaints, not burn up your ip's, and effectively hit the inbox so you have a chance of converting whatever offer you're sending. Obviously some folk understand this concept and are more successful accordingly.

:2 cents:

_Richard_ 01-30-2014 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19961911)
phplist is ok for free, but I think you'd find OEMPro or Interspire Email Marketer (which is what YNOTMail uses) much easier/better.

Then there is all the set up with feedback loops, DKIM, SPF records etc.

And then, as barefootsies says, there is the strategy, and that is the hard bit.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

edgeprod 01-30-2014 11:21 AM

Jay, hit me up and I'll connect you with the right solution. Head and shoulders above the rest, invite-only.

BareBacked 01-30-2014 11:31 AM

partner with someone that does it professionally

Barefootsies 01-31-2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19963345)
Jay, hit me up and I'll connect you with the right solution. Head and shoulders above the rest, invite-only.

:thumbsup


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