Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939247)

read your long ago tute thread
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=694846
seen youre thread `ask me anything`. 3 pages of a lot of clowin bullshit an i dont wanna get this advice lost in bozo the clown pages so im gonna get right to the point.

was in the industry long while ago 1999 an came back to a manwin/mindgeek, tube infringing disaster where card banging stolen content is the norm now a days.

i got a free site, killer ass 1999 dated .com domain name, suck up to ALL my visitors granting all their wishes no matter how dumb i think it is. they say something i do it. was thinking about a filtered instant chat system [filtering out the russian asian bullshit spam] seems the big boys are suckin up the SERPs, an on top of that ya got googles panda updates that take thriving traffic down to nothing making my efforts fruitless.

lay it on me an a lot of others who are thinking/asking the same thing yet their ego gets in the way. yeah neeko you can join in, no crooked shit, i play by the rules, dont want ak taking my paypal :1orglaugh

thanks man!
victor

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19939305)

Hi Victor,

Thanks for the msg. I'm not sure what the question is or what you want me to lay down on you. Let me know.

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939338)

question = how does a small business man bypass the home depot/ massive tubes an still make a decent living in the adult biz ????

i keep my site clean, msg board no bullshit file lockers, work 10-12 hrs a day an seems like im spinning my wheels.

this is my inbox. look at the last take down notice date. does it pay to be legit anymore ????

if you were me an many others what would you do ?

http://i44.tinypic.com/29z3kaw.jpg

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939338)

question = how does a small business man bypass the home depot/ massive tubes an still make a decent living in the adult biz ????

i keep my site clean, msg board no bullshit file lockers, work 10-12 hrs a day an seems like im spinning my wheels.

this is my inbox. look at the last take down notice date. does it pay to be legit anymore ????

if you were me an many others what would you do ?

http://i44.tinypic.com/29z3kaw.jpg

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19939415)

It does pay to be legit and i think it does pay to do the right thing. I remember a conversation I had with another site owner where he asked me what my CB rate was. I said less than 0.5%. He looked at me like i was crazy. He said "we are you so low? You are denying yourself huge opportunity. You don't have to go over the limit but ride close to it and make way more money by doing so."

That really got me thinking but didn't change who I was. That wasn't me. I've always believed in delivering a quality product to the customers that pay me. I think in terms of what else I can give them instead of what else can i take from them.

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19939420)

looks like you are asking Shaps permission to be a pirate...but from your inbox it looks like you are already a pirate...you're winning arrrg

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939451)

i agree with ya. i dont have conversations with ppl, i do a lot of reading on this board, learning from others mistakes not withstanding trying to keep up with todays google. i watch my keywords an page descriptions just to keep google happy and they toss me traffic, non converting traffic but is traffic. my sales are almost non existent. i cant compete with todays rip off trend. in todays adult market i dont have the spare coin to toss out and roll the dice.

-rocking back and forth in my chair staring at the wall thinkin about hitting the bar an slamming down a dos equis or two-

figured id ask the best. you got out in time an so did shemp but shemp dont know how to let go. ill bs with ya over on mp shemp. :thumbsup




its a open adult message board with all the xml extras to block a lot of bullshit spam. yeah one or two infringing amateur swinger pix make it by an they are removed asap by request of those pix owners. i think my dmca record is god damn good for a open adult msg board. if you think different go fuck yourself, pussy.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19939459)

Cool. Msg me any time. Email or PM here. It's a hard battle. For us what worked well (easy to say as we had a bunch of employees) but we had guys devoting time to our existing sites and then guys working on new projects to see what would stick. We knew our tgps were way past their glory and we knew we'd have to replace it with something. We happened to get lucky and hit a smashing home run with GayTube. I recommend taking 10% of your time and try spending that time throwing shit at the wall. Smash a dos equis and throw some more shit. Something will stick. When it sticks run with it.

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939489)

i know shap, i follow your adult career like the bible !!!! all the way back to that $700 dialer ordeal, remember that ???? i know ya felt like shit an so would i. those are the honest wtf did i do principles i try to pride myself by, again learning from others ppls mistakes. seems whatever went down bck then dont work now a days. its think harder an smarter.
ya shoot your own content an it winds up on a file locker. by the time its taken down half the adult community has is. head over to pirate bay, wtf do ya gotta pay for over there ???? nodda !!!! ya see where im goin with tossing out of pocket cash trying to make it in todays industry ???? i think i might turn this adult thing into a hobby an maybe i wont stress as much. seems like the more ya strive the less ya get.

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939247)

read your long ago tute thread
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=694846
seen youre thread `ask me anything`. 3 pages of a lot of clowin bullshit an i dont wanna get this advice lost in bozo the clown pages so im gonna get right to the point.

was in the industry long while ago 1999 an came back to a manwin/mindgeek, tube infringing disaster where card banging stolen content is the norm now a days.

i got a free site, killer ass 1999 dated .com domain name, suck up to ALL my visitors granting all their wishes no matter how dumb i think it is. they say something i do it. was thinking about a filtered instant chat system [filtering out the russian asian bullshit spam] seems the big boys are suckin up the SERPs, an on top of that ya got googles panda updates that take thriving traffic down to nothing making my efforts fruitless.

lay it on me an a lot of others who are thinking/asking the same thing yet their ego gets in the way. yeah neeko you can join in, no crooked shit, i play by the rules, dont want ak taking my paypal :1orglaugh

thanks man!
victor

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19939493)

OH DAMN! That goes way back. It's funny because one guy on the other thread said something about windows.exe and it made me think of those damn dialers.

One thing I can say is it never gets easier. I thought it would but it didn't. Around every corner is another temptation to take the short cut. No guarantees it will get you where you want to go but it is less work than the alternative.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19939496)

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939451)

its a open adult message board

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939536)

i sat back n thought about doing shit like that. at the end of the day would i like someone hustling me. to me that dont sit well. i like going places with my family without constantly looking over my shoulder. i was raised a lot better than that.

hey Rochard, eat the apple but fuck the corps. nxt time read the thread b4 makin urself look like a piece of shit. ahh im 10 years to late, hooorah !!!!

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19939590)

I think that's your issue right there. Although there's a handful of exceptions, boards tend to generate very low quality traffic :2 cents:

Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe (Post 19939517)

Welcome back Justin - Killswitch

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 19939877)

Shap was working at a time when shooting your own content was KEY. Now, with tubes and piracy, shooting your own content is actually a liability to some extent. Good luck man!

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19939590)

I think that's your issue right there. Although there's a handful of exceptions, boards tend to generate very low quality traffic :2 cents:

Originally Posted by jódete (Post 19939451)

figured id ask the best. you got out in time an so did shemp but shemp dont know how to let go. ill bs with ya over on mp shemp. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 19940357)

heya bro, thanks for the mention...i sold my site (shemp.com) because i got a good offer for it, it was just business...i kept my other sites going and took some time off after 15 years of daily updates...but it was never my intent to leave the biz...
and now i am really enjoying working on my new site http://outlawtgp.com
...imagine a free site with just picture galleries...i like a challenge :)

Originally Posted by ravo (Post 19940952)

LOVE the old school site! Curious to see how this does in today's age...

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 19941263)

heya Ravo,
time will tell... it would do a lot better if all the "tube haters" would link to it ...