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Relentless 01-06-2014 07:58 AM

Multi-Billion Dollar Idea
 
If they patented their IP and it actually works, this is going to become a multi-billion dollar company very quickly.... :2 cents:

http://mashable.com/2013/11/26/tells...JlYjh3eGwzeiJ9

Harmon 01-06-2014 08:02 AM

Another dieting idea. Groundbreaking shit folks.

AllAboutCams 01-06-2014 08:02 AM

Nice idea

Relentless 01-06-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19934781)
Another dieting idea. Groundbreaking shit folks.

Not a dieting idea. A food allergy idea. Are you aware how many people have food allergies or progeny with food allergies? How much do you think the ordinary mom would be willing to pay per month to make sure the food their offspring eats doesn't have the things in it that they are allergic to? All the calorie info and dieting whatnot is trivial compared to the allergy implications.

dyna mo 01-06-2014 08:12 AM

what we really need is a device that stops people from self-diagnosing things like food allergies.

like the gluten allergy, it's a fad.

Lichen 01-06-2014 08:46 AM

Sounds like bullshit.

You should run this by whattheporn.

Tom_PM 01-06-2014 08:59 AM

That thing looks like a great idea to me. I saw a show once about high tech sniffers that try to mimic a dogs nose for sniffing out tiny amounts of dangerous or hazardous materials. It was pretty amazing how good it was. They use it to determine different kinds of plastics and such too.

Just last night there was a documentary on about how household mold in low rent housing and asthma among the residents has a direct link. Just being able to aim a pocket device, or a USB thumb device + apps, and find out about this sort of thing is definitely a worthwhile thing.

Relentless 01-06-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934804)
what we really need is a device that stops people from self-diagnosing things like food allergies. like the gluten allergy, it's a fad.

Lots of people are misdiagnosed for sure, but the number of people who have serious allergies is huge. http://www.foodallergy.org/facts-and-stats

And all the people who are misdiagnosed are still going to add to the bottom line of the company. The only question is whether or not the device will actually work. A device like this that is right 95% of the time is the same a device that is right 0% of the time. The technology is real and it can easily be done in a lab setting. Not sure about a handheld device and false reads in the real world though...

Relentless 01-06-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19934873)
That thing looks like a great idea to me. I saw a show once about high tech sniffers that try to mimic a dogs nose for sniffing out tiny amounts of dangerous or hazardous materials. It was pretty amazing how good it was. They use it to determine different kinds of plastics and such too. Just last night there was a documentary on about how household mold in low rent housing and asthma among the residents has a direct link. Just being able to aim a pocket device, or a USB thumb device + apps, and find out about this sort of thing is definitely a worthwhile thing.

Allergy sniffing dogs do work... and they often go for 15K each from reputable breeders. A $300 handheld device that won't ever piss on your rug is a whole lot more convenient. :2 cents:

If this tech really works and the IP can be protected it will soon be in the iPhone7 or equivalent Android devices as a killer app that actually affects marketshare.

PR_Glen 01-06-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934804)
what we really need is a device that stops people from self-diagnosing things like food allergies.

like the gluten allergy, it's a fad.

nah it's dna, most people don't digest things like gluten properly just they don't realize the symptoms like obesity or excessive bloating. Our stomachs adapt to it, but inefficient fuel to say the least.

dyna mo 01-06-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19934887)
nah it's dna, most people don't digest things like gluten properly

i'm going to need some links to serious research to believe this.

gluten sensitivity is a fad, celiac disease has been around a long time, only after gluten-free became a buzz term did many people start to claim they're allergic to gluten.

Relentless 01-06-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934890)
i'm going to need some links to serious research to believe this. gluten sensitivity is a fad, celiac disease has been around a long time, only after gluten-free became a buzz term did many people start to claim they're allergic to gluten.


Gluten is pretty low on the totem pole for this. Even people with gluten allergies don't die from them. There are many people in the world who can be killed by a single peanut. That's not a fad or a misdiagnosis... and even trace amounts are enough to cause a reaction. That's why you see food packages stating 'processed in a facility that also processes peanuts." It doesn't matter if peanuts aren't an ingredient, even if it's just residue from the thing they made in the factory yesterday... it's deadly to some people. :2 cents:

ilnjscb 01-06-2014 09:25 AM

They should have a spectrometer as a smart phone plug in device - that would make some sense.

dyna mo 01-06-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19934899)
Gluten is pretty low on the totem pole for this. Even people with gluten allergies don't die from them. There are many people in the world who can be killed by a single peanut. That's not a fad or a misdiagnosis... and even trace amounts are enough to cause a reaction. That's why you see food packages stating 'processed in a facility that also processes peanuts." It doesn't matter if peanuts aren't an ingredient, even if it's just residue from the thing they made in the factory yesterday... it's deadly to some people. :2 cents:

i'm aware of the peanut allergy, but to say "many people in the world who can be killed by a single peanut" is quite an exaggeration.

more importantly, nut allergies have been linked to mass psychogenic illness: hysterical reactions grossly out of proportion to the level of danger.

http://christakis.med.harvard.edu/pd...s/misc/023.pdf

Relentless 01-06-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19934911)
They should have a spectrometer as a smart phone plug in device - that would make some sense.

The moment someone has one that actually works Apple, Microsoft and Google will be in a bidding war to acquire it. :2 cents:

PR_Dave 01-06-2014 09:32 AM

I ordered one a few months ago

Relentless 01-06-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934912)
i'm aware of the peanut allergy, but to say "many people in the world who can be killed by a single peanut" is quite an exaggeration. more importantly, nut allergies have been linked to mass psychogenic illness: hysterical reactions grossly out of proportion to the level of danger. http://christakis.med.harvard.edu/pd...s/misc/023.pdf

That depends on your definition of 'many.' When it comes to the death of otherwise healthy children, many doesn't need to be a five digit number. Estimates are that 100-200 people die each year from food allergies in the US. Not get sick, not get a belly ache... actually die. Here are some of them listed by name: http://nonutsmomsgroup.weebly.com/1/...allergies.html

That number is a tiny fraction of the people who do get sick or have lesser reactions, or are saved by an Epi-Pen and ER care.... and an even smaller fraction of the total number of people who have allergies but managed to avoid an event in a given year.

All of the above only illustrates the most severe reason to buy something like this. If they get it to work and can patent it to prevent copycats, it will become a 9 figure payday for someone. :2 cents:

Rochard 01-06-2014 09:42 AM

I heard about this company but I had no idea what it was. Interesting.

stephane76 01-06-2014 10:00 AM

I wish they had websites like indiegogo where you can actually invest in the company instead of pledging for a copy of the product.

TellSpec is a fantastic idea btw!

robwod 01-06-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19934938)
That depends on your definition of 'many.' When it comes to the death of otherwise healthy children, many doesn't need to be a five digit number.

One otherwise healthy kid dieing over something that could have been prevented is one too many.

Agree with you 100% on the revenues this could generate. I'd probably buy it just as part of our home safety kit.

Relentless 01-06-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stephane76 (Post 19934977)
I wish they had websites like indiegogo where you can actually invest in the company instead of pledging for a copy of the product. TellSpec is a fantastic idea btw!

One of the few stocks I'd actually buy today if they had shares available.... :2 cents:

A site that actually lets you buy stock as part of the start-up investment pledge would likely be subject to a ton of SEC rules and other regulations I'd imagine. It's a terrific idea but I'd hate to be the one sorting out all the red tape to make something like that happen. https://angel.co/ is probably the closest thing now to what you are looking for...

ilnjscb 01-06-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 19934927)
I ordered one a few months ago

The story of the guy in your avatar is great - good choice

VinceRuth 01-06-2014 02:51 PM

Interesting your idea :pimp

JFK 01-06-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19934880)
Allergy sniffing dogs do work... and they often go for 15K each from reputable breeders. A $300 handheld device that won't ever piss on your rug is a whole lot more convenient. :2 cents:

If this tech really works and the IP can be protected it will soon be in the iPhone7 or equivalent Android devices as a killer app that actually affects marketshare.

"A $300 handheld device that won't ever piss on your rug is a whole lot more convenient"

Good one !!:thumbsup:thumbsup:1orglaugh

2MuchMark 01-06-2014 03:34 PM

Wow thats pretty cool.

iwantchixx 01-06-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934804)
what we really need is a device that stops people from self-diagnosing things like food allergies.

like the gluten allergy, it's a fad.

Uhm, it's not a fad.

Fads don't cause lesions and sores in small intestines

Fads don't cause elevations of certain proteins in bloodstream

I'm borderline gluten intolerant. It elevates certain proteins and causes skin issues for me (boils, severe acne, etc) but nothing in bowels yet.

When I cut back glutens, I notice a difference in skin issues and energy.

iwantchixx 01-06-2014 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934912)
i'm aware of the peanut allergy, but to say "many people in the world who can be killed by a single peanut" is quite an exaggeration.

more importantly, nut allergies have been linked to mass psychogenic illness: hysterical reactions grossly out of proportion to the level of danger.

http://christakis.med.harvard.edu/pd...s/misc/023.pdf

That part is very true. Most who believe peanuts = death are just living in fear from a misdiagnosis. A friend of mine who worked for me used to leave work often because he walked by peanuts and suddenly feels ill. Someone prepared a desert once and forgot to tell him it had peanut butter in it, nothing happened. Now he happily eats nut products with no effects.

However, my son almost died from peanut butter ingestion and does breathe funny when near it.

iwantchixx 01-06-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19934890)
i'm going to need some links to serious research to believe this.

gluten sensitivity is a fad, celiac disease has been around a long time, only after gluten-free became a buzz term did many people start to claim they're allergic to gluten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

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Cause

Coeliac disease is caused by a reaction to gliadin, a prolamin (gluten protein) found in wheat, and similar proteins found in the crops of the tribe Triticeae (which includes other common grains such as barley and rye).[5]

dyna mo 01-06-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 19935557)
Uhm, it's not a fad.

Fads don't cause lesions and sores in small intestines

Fads don't cause elevations of certain proteins in bloodstream

I'm borderline gluten intolerant. It elevates certain proteins and causes skin issues for me (boils, severe acne, etc) but nothing in bowels yet.

When I cut back glutens, I notice a difference in skin issues and energy.

then you must have celiac disease, right? that's much different than gluten allergy.

Kenny B! 01-06-2014 09:14 PM

Wow I will be ordering one, my 2 year old has a very serious peanut allergy and this would be great... if it works. I'll still be reading labels and asking wherever I order food from though.

stephane76 01-07-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19935008)
One of the few stocks I'd actually buy today if they had shares available.... :2 cents:

A site that actually lets you buy stock as part of the start-up investment pledge would likely be subject to a ton of SEC rules and other regulations I'd imagine. It's a terrific idea but I'd hate to be the one sorting out all the red tape to make something like that happen. https://angel.co/ is probably the closest thing now to what you are looking for...

Looking into it now, thank you kind Sir! :winkwink:

thedamirst 01-07-2014 12:27 PM

very nice idea ...

seem legit

Alex1776 04-28-2014 05:50 AM

I want one. I need one! How do I get???

lowriderz 04-28-2014 06:01 AM

Hm, I don't know....

EngineCash 04-28-2014 06:04 AM

Very interesting idea... :thumbsup

MrTrollkien 04-28-2014 06:08 AM

I know about this stuff, and I smell a scam coming on. Note there is no device at present, just an idea. Before I spent a cent on it, I'd like to know how they expect to sort out spectra for minor constituents from a reflectance spectrum.

kichi 04-28-2014 06:41 AM

It's a scam. http://pando.com/2014/04/04/revealed...-medical-scam/

Relentless 04-28-2014 06:50 AM

Apparently so. Oh well, hopefully it becomes possible soon. It would be a multibillion dollar idea for whoever patents similar technology that works...


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