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Badmaash 01-06-2014 06:48 AM

Curing cancer with cannabis oil????
 
High!

I just saw this ad, is this guy for real?

http://www.potcommerce.com/cannabis-...-cannabis-oil/

Thanks

B

TheSquealer 01-06-2014 06:56 AM

How many oncologists worldwide treat loved ones suffering from cancer with it? I'd estimate the number to be somewhere around zero or so.

lucas131 01-06-2014 06:59 AM

wit breast cancer i would say its she, and there sure are some cure that are not possible to publish because all those pharma research, but with two emails in post i would say more like sell spam than anything that can really help ... just think about it, if you have cure for cancer, would you post it on some ganja marketplace? :winkwink: :2 cents:

Harmon 01-06-2014 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19934666)
How many oncologists worldwide treat loved ones suffering from cancer with it? I'd estimate the number to be somewhere around zero or so.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
This guy is a complete idiot

baddog 01-06-2014 10:58 AM

Well, here is my experience.

For the past 10 years goodgirl had been diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. Her body was literally compressing herself, she lost 1.5 inches in height over the past few years. Her bones and muscles were in extreme pain. When she moved to CA a couple years ago we got her an MMJ card and we started experimenting with baking; primarily because high THC weed was just too strong for her, gave her anxiety.

We then moved onto high CBD variations (CBDs are the pain killers in weed). She noticed that it relieved a lot of stress and made it easier for her to sleep. While playing around with making our own edibles (that was an amazing Thanksgiving dinner) she moved on to making balms and lotions. Thebest was when she infused high CBD weed into coconut oil. The stuff is amazing. Have a headache? Rub a small dose on your temples and it disappears immediately. Muscle pains from too much exercise? Rub a little on and you are fine. I remember one night she was in a lot of pain, I simply rubbed this oil on her back and the tightness left. How was I convinced it worked? Well, I thought I had oiled her entire back but she said, "You missed a spot." Sure enough, the size of a dime, but she could tell the difference.

While this was going on a mole I had on my lower back started to grow. It got to be about the size of two quarters stacked. I could barely sit in a chair that had a back. We decided to rub this oil on it to see what happened. Sure enough, it reduced in size so that it looks like a freckle now. Now further treatment, never returned.

I have skin cancer; people that go to shows may have noticed the sore on my arm. Within the last year it started getting worse, growing, bleeding, itchy and pretty ugly. Around Thanksgiving we decided to try a treatment of wrapping the sore and packing it with this oil. It is currently about half the size and you can see that new skin is growing where the cancer reduced in size.

So, while I would argue that no, cannabis is not a cure, it definitely can eliminate some symptoms and appears to fight some cancers.

pornmasta 01-06-2014 11:13 AM

Cannabis... you can even smoke it ;p

theking 01-06-2014 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19935073)
Well, here is my experience.

For the past 10 years goodgirl had been diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. Her body was literally compressing herself, she lost 1.5 inches in height over the past few years. Her bones and muscles were in extreme pain. When she moved to CA a couple years ago we got her an MMJ card and we started experimenting with baking; primarily because high THC weed was just too strong for her, gave her anxiety.

We then moved onto high CBD variations (CBDs are the pain killers in weed). She noticed that it relieved a lot of stress and made it easier for her to sleep. While playing around with making our own edibles (that was an amazing Thanksgiving dinner) she moved on to making balms and lotions. Thebest was when she infused high CBD weed into coconut oil. The stuff is amazing. Have a headache? Rub a small dose on your temples and it disappears immediately. Muscle pains from too much exercise? Rub a little on and you are fine. I remember one night she was in a lot of pain, I simply rubbed this oil on her back and the tightness left. How was I convinced it worked? Well, I thought I had oiled her entire back but she said, "You missed a spot." Sure enough, the size of a dime, but she could tell the difference.

While this was going on a mole I had on my lower back started to grow. It got to be about the size of two quarters stacked. I could barely sit in a chair that had a back. We decided to rub this oil on it to see what happened. Sure enough, it reduced in size so that it looks like a freckle now. Now further treatment, never returned.

I have skin cancer; people that go to shows may have noticed the sore on my arm. Within the last year it started getting worse, growing, bleeding, itchy and pretty ugly. Around Thanksgiving we decided to try a treatment of wrapping the sore and packing it with this oil. It is currently about half the size and you can see that new skin is growing where the cancer reduced in size.

So, while I would argue that no, cannabis is not a cure, it definitely can eliminate some symptoms and appears to fight some cancers.

Interesting. Have you discussed your experiments/experiences with an MD?

2MuchMark 01-06-2014 12:17 PM

Whoever wrote the "Testimony" that cannabis oil cures cancer should be shot.

And Baddog, while I'm glad to hear your symptoms appear to be disappearing, what you are saying is just as dangerous as the "cure" site.

Cancer is uncontrolled division of abnormal cells. Cell division follow instructions of our Genes but when the instructions contain an error, the cancer begins. To get rid of cancer, all of the cells as well as the cells containing the genes containing the errors must be removed or destroyed.

Rubbing Canabis oil may reduce the symptoms and of course helps with pain and discomfort, but it is not a cure. There could be other things you are doing such as changes in your diet or lifestyle, maybe limiting your exposure to sunlight, which could be reducing your symptoms. Without proper double-blind tests, you would never know. Right now you are just making assumptions which others would read as "hope". Giving people hope or beliefs in alternative thereapy may stop them from seeing a real doctor and getting real help.

You really need to talk to your Doctor. Yes Chemo and radiation and operations all suck but not as much as cancer itself. If you (think you) have skin cancer you need to go and see a Dermatologist or Oncologist. There are real treatments for things like Melanoma and Merkel Cell Carcinoma that maybe you should be following - not some home brewed crap.


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/

stickyfingerz 01-06-2014 12:21 PM

Folks this isn't even a question at this point. I've helped 4 people now get treatment. 2 for skin cancer, one for prostate cancer, and have one starting on it now for a stage 3 cancer that has come back 3 times now.

It works by apoptosis. It very basically causes the mutated cancer cells to self suicide then triggers the body to produce new healthy cells. Anyone that thinks it is crazy hasn't spent anytime researching. Cannabis can and does cure cancer every day.

Are there studies? Umm yes

42 Medical Studies that Prove Cannabis Can Cure Cancer

Cures Brain Cancer

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v9.../6603236a.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11479216

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten...3/838.abstract

http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/10/1/90.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1576089/

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co...4/16/5617.full

Cures Mouth and Throat Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734

Cures Breast Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20859676

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21915267

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten....full.pdf+html

http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22776349

http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8375.full.pdf+html

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co.../6615.abstract

http://endo.endojournals.org/content....abstract#fn-1

Cures Lung Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22198381

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21097714

http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v2.../1210641a.html

Cures Uterine, Testicular, and Pancreatic Cancers

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page4

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co.../6748.abstract

Cures Prostate Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...5/?tool=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22594963

Cures Colorectal Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22231745

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442536

http://safeaccess.ca/research/pdf/MD...ancerStudy.pdf

http://gut.bmj.com/content/54/12/1741.abstract

Cures Ovarian Cancer

http://www.aacrmeetingabstracts.org/...ct/2006/1/1084

Curse Blood Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12091357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...23584/abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/co.../1612.abstract

Cures Skin Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12511587

Cures Liver Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

Cures Biliary Tract Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793

Cures Bladder Cancer

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/803983
(Sign-up required to view) Cures Cancer in General

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12514108

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15313899

Read More:

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/201...re-cancer.html


Any other questions? :)

stickyfingerz 01-06-2014 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19935203)
Whoever wrote the "Testimony" that cannabis oil cures cancer should be shot.

And Baddog, while I'm glad to hear your symptoms appear to be disappearing, what you are saying is just as dangerous as the "cure" site.

Cancer is uncontrolled division of abnormal cells. Cell division follow instructions of our Genes but when the instructions contain an error, the cancer begins. To get rid of cancer, all of the cells as well as the cells containing the genes containing the errors must be removed or destroyed.

Rubbing Canabis oil may reduce the symptoms and of course helps with pain and discomfort, but it is not a cure. There could be other things you are doing such as changes in your diet or lifestyle, maybe limiting your exposure to sunlight, which could be reducing your symptoms. Without proper double-blind tests, you would never know. Right now you are just making assumptions which others would read as "hope". Giving people hope or beliefs in alternative thereapy may stop them from seeing a real doctor and getting real help.

You really need to talk to your Doctor. Yes Chemo and radiation and operations all suck but not as much as cancer itself. If you (think you) have skin cancer you need to go and see a Dermatologist or Oncologist. There are real treatments for things like Melanoma and Merkel Cell Carcinoma that maybe you should be following - not some home brewed crap.


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/

And.. obviously Mark you are as educated on Cannabis and cancer as you are about your choice of politics and computer brands... lmao :thumbsup

stickyfingerz 01-06-2014 12:25 PM

And I'll raise you your cancer.org for cancer.gov...

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page4

baddog 01-06-2014 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 19935172)
Interesting. Have you discussed your experiments/experiences with an MD?

goodgirl has discussed her experiences with her doctor(s); I don't go to doctors.

theking 01-06-2014 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19935444)
goodgirl has discussed her experiences with her doctor(s); I don't go to doctors.

Do you care to explain why you do not go to doctors? I don't care much for doctors...but I have to admit that they have saved my life on more than one occasion...but I also have to admit...I do have ambivalent feelings about that fact.

baddog 01-06-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 19935470)
Do you care to explain why you do not go to doctors? I don't care much for doctors...but I have to admit that they have saved my life on more than one occasion...but I also have to admit...I do have ambivalent feelings about that fact.

Because I have yet to meet one that actually cared. I have visited doctors more times than I care to count when I accompanied goodgirl on her visits; that experience has convinced me I am taking the proper route.

Hell, she was misdiagnosed for 10 years at a cost of $500,000 and once the true cause of her problem was discovered her doctors pretty much dropped her like a bad habit. Her last GP said they would get back to her with a treatment regimen back in July. They haven't even called since then.

Medicine isn't about curing, it is about maintaining . . . I can do that for free.

Mutt 01-06-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19935073)
Well, here is my experience.

For the past 10 years goodgirl had been diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. Her body was literally compressing herself, she lost 1.5 inches in height over the past few years. Her bones and muscles were in extreme pain. When she moved to CA a couple years ago we got her an MMJ card and we started experimenting with baking; primarily because high THC weed was just too strong for her, gave her anxiety.

I forget the rare genetic issue goodgirl discovered she had, a vitamin deficiency - you wrote a lot about it and how she was a new person when she began taking supplements for the deficiency. How has it gone for her since then?

theking 01-06-2014 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19935482)
Because I have yet to meet one that actually cared. I have visited doctors more times than I care to count when I accompanied goodgirl on her visits; that experience has convinced me I am taking the proper route.

Hell, she was misdiagnosed for 10 years at a cost of $500,000 and once the true cause of her problem was discovered her doctors pretty much dropped her like a bad habit. Her last GP said they would get back to her with a treatment regimen back in July. They haven't even called since then.

Medicine isn't about curing, it is about maintaining . . . I can do that for free.

Thanks for the explanation...and I understand. It is the attitude of most of them...I have delt with...that caused me to state that I do not care much for doctors.

baddog 01-06-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19935489)
I forget the rare genetic issue goodgirl discovered she had, a vitamin deficiency - you wrote a lot about it and how she was a new person when she began taking supplements for the deficiency. How has it gone for her since then?

Biotinidase Deficiency (B7) - Her life is so much different today. The last 5 months have been pretty amazing considering we thought she was about to die.

2MuchMark 01-06-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 19935211)
And.. obviously Mark you are as educated on Cannabis and cancer as you are about your choice of politics and computer brands... lmao :thumbsup

No of course not but if you or your loved one had cancer, who would you rather trust to control it? The medical and scientific community? Or regular people so desperate to find a cure that they will call any hint of (possibly imagined) progress as a "cure"?

mikesinner 01-06-2014 03:35 PM

It might help but it isn't what you would call a cure, but there really isn't any cure for any type of cancer yet. You just go into remission and hope it doesn't come back.

stickyfingerz 01-06-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19935521)
No of course not but if you or your loved one had cancer, who would you rather trust to control it? The medical and scientific community? Or regular people so desperate to find a cure that they will call any hint of (possibly imagined) progress as a "cure"?

100% without question cannabis oil. I've got 3 people cured already and one starting treatment. This isn't a desperate cure. This is reality. Proven by countless people being fully cured now. I've seen it first hand. And maybe you missed the 42 studies I listed above from the "medical and scientific community". There is absolute science behind it. Do you know who Dr. Sanjay Gupta is? One of the top neurosurgeons in the country and your saviour Obama's candidate for Surgeon General.

I've studied it a lot. I actually require it medically now for Graves disease. It fully and completely makes it like I do not have it. Without cannabis I'm a wreck.


stickyfingerz 01-06-2014 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19935537)
It might help but it isn't what you would call a cure, but there really isn't any cure for any type of cancer yet. You just go into remission and hope it doesn't come back.

Does anyone on GFY read? :) Hey Mike. ;) Yes it absolutely can and does cure cancer. Big huge list of studies listed above. Apoptosis ... google it.

Badmaash 01-07-2014 04:04 AM

This is some real interesting stuff, I think in the UK they are making a spray medicine based on cannabis. If the UK is using it then I think the USA should listen to us and legalize it.

NEW XTC 01-07-2014 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19934666)
How many oncologists worldwide treat loved ones suffering from cancer with it? I'd estimate the number to be somewhere around zero or so.

if you haven't died from cancer in the next decade or so you will remember how wrong you were on this day my man

NEW XTC 01-07-2014 06:24 AM

Mark Prince - you will remember how utterly, moronically, and colossally fucking balls out retarded you were on this issue as soon as the proof that hemp (CBD) cures all cancer becomes mainstream accepted scientific fact.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19935203)
Whoever wrote the "Testimony" that cannabis oil cures cancer should be shot.

And Baddog, while I'm glad to hear your symptoms appear to be disappearing, what you are saying is just as dangerous as the "cure" site.

Cancer is uncontrolled division of abnormal cells. Cell division follow instructions of our Genes but when the instructions contain an error, the cancer begins. To get rid of cancer, all of the cells as well as the cells containing the genes containing the errors must be removed or destroyed.

Rubbing Canabis oil may reduce the symptoms and of course helps with pain and discomfort, but it is not a cure. There could be other things you are doing such as changes in your diet or lifestyle, maybe limiting your exposure to sunlight, which could be reducing your symptoms. Without proper double-blind tests, you would never know. Right now you are just making assumptions which others would read as "hope". Giving people hope or beliefs in alternative thereapy may stop them from seeing a real doctor and getting real help.

You really need to talk to your Doctor. Yes Chemo and radiation and operations all suck but not as much as cancer itself. If you (think you) have skin cancer you need to go and see a Dermatologist or Oncologist. There are real treatments for things like Melanoma and Merkel Cell Carcinoma that maybe you should be following - not some home brewed crap.


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/


thedamirst 01-07-2014 07:21 AM

I believe it !!! ...worth a try at least ...

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19936168)
This is some real interesting stuff, I think in the UK they are making a spray medicine based on cannabis. If the UK is using it then I think the USA should listen to us and legalize it.

Its called Sativex. It has its uses I suppose but nothing that can't be done with the raw plant. It is just another play to patent a plant.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19936260)
Mark Prince - you will remember how utterly, moronically, and colossally fucking balls out retarded you were on this issue as soon as the proof that hemp (CBD) cures all cancer becomes mainstream accepted scientific fact.

It isn't just CBD it is a synergistic reaction between all of the plant. The cannabinoids do the largest part of the process of apoptosis though.

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19936256)
if you haven't died from cancer in the next decade or so you will remember how wrong you were on this day my man

Wrong? Wrong about the fact that doctors who treat cancer daily all over the world, don't use cannabis oil? I think you'll find i'm quite right. One thing people are never right about when it comes to health is cancer and treatments that work consistently well. Thats why people like Steve Jobs are dead right now. Had he simply listened to his doctors when the cancer was detected at a very early stage and easily treatable, he would be alive.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936640)
Wrong? Wrong about the fact that doctors who treat cancer daily all over the world, don't use cannabis oil? I think you'll find i'm quite right.

Because they could not because it is federally illegal?... So since it is federally illegal... your logic lands on that it must not cure cancer... Seems like sound reasoning. And maybe if you looked at the 42 studies I listed above most of which have one of them "doctor" things in the mix. Have you researched at ALL or are you just going to continue believing what you "think" you know?

Dr. Sanjay Gupta go look and see what he thinks about Cannabis now that he researched it. ;)

Firestarter30 01-07-2014 11:17 AM

The key to long lasting health is by keeping your blood oxygen levels high (by eating anything with chlorophyll, anything green so to speak)
=> ph levels>7 , which means alkaline and not acidic :)

seeandsee 01-07-2014 11:19 AM

PEOPLE will try to use other people problems to make money

baddog 01-07-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936640)
Thats why people like Steve Jobs are dead right now. Had he simply listened to his doctors when the cancer was detected at a very early stage and easily treatable, he would be alive.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19936648)
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

His cancer was detected when it was barely even detectable. He opted to ignore his doctors, eat his fruit and pray to hippy gods until it was far too late. Only then did he start to listen to his doctors. As a result, he died.

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 11:23 AM

Bob Marley is another perfectly great example of someone that needlessly died of cancer for no reason, because he had it all figured out and knew how evil doctors were.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:26 AM

SO did Steve Jobs use Cannabis oil to treat his cancer? Otherwise not sure why it is in this discussion. No one in this thread has said every natural remedy works better than medicine. We are discussing Cannabis oil and how it cures cancer. I listed 41 studies above. I listed a link to Cancer.gov where the National Cancer foundation says that Cannabis can and does shrink tumors and it is verifiable.

But tell us more about how Steve Jobs died because he ignored his Doctors...

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 11:27 AM

As is Farrah Fawcett

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936660)
Bob Marley is another perfectly great example of someone that needlessly died of cancer for no reason, because he had it all figured out and knew how evil doctors were.

Bob Marley smoked Cannabis. He wasn't using the concentrated extract oil to treat his foot cancer. It takes a huge concentrated dose 3 times or more a day. You have to start out on an amount to the size of a grain of rice. You have to increase your dose as your tolerance builds. There is a very specific method for the treatment to work. When it is done correctly it does work. You are anti cannabis I'm sure so you won't bother researching. Trust me though you are going to feel like a fool someday. Someday soon. This is becoming fairly common knowledge at this point and it isn't some scam.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936664)
As is Farrah Fawcett

And did she use Cannabis oil to treat her anal cancer? If not then wtf you bringing her up? This isn't a thread about whether alternative medicine is good or bad, this is about a specific substance that is scientifically proven to cure cancer. I hope Spock isn't reading this thread or you may give him an aneurysm. Lackluster logic.. is lackluster..

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 19936663)
We are discussing Cannabis oil and how it cures cancer. I listed 41 studies above.

Thats all find and well except for you are distorting the facts and willfully ignore any study that says its no more effective that traditional treatment or less effective and you distort the facts. Shrinks all tumors, all the time? All forms of cancer? Equally effective? You cited studies. Good for you. There are just as many studies with ambiguous results. Inconclusive results or showing it was less effective.

It's a widely held belief and commonly acknowledged fact that all types of seeds, spices and foods (those you should eat and those you should avoid) etc help boost immune function and particularly help in killing cancer cells.

No doctor anywhere however will say "this is the perfect replacement for traditional treatment" as that is just never the case.

You ultimately have to start calling everything a conspiracy by big Pharma because thats what you are left with when you aren't being honest about the facts and you've already determined you want to believe something.

Quote:

But tell us more about how Steve Jobs died because he ignored his Doctors...
Why? It's common knowledge. It's easy to find. He had what I believe was a routine MRI scan, they saw a faint shadow on his pancreas. It could not have possibly been detected earlier than it was as it was barely even detectable. Tests revealed it to be a mild form of pancreatic cancer that is rarely fatal to begin with... so off he went with his "all natural cures" and today he is dead.

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 19936674)
This isn't a thread about whether alternative medicine is good or bad, this is about a specific substance that is scientifically proven to cure cancer..

"Proven to cure cancer"... what types of cancer? "cure" as in destroys tumors and cancerous cells in 100% of cases? At what stage of progression? You mean, you just use this thing regardless of the many forms of cancer and at any stage and you are going to be totally A-OK and life will be grand.... or... are you just exaggerating and distorting facts with misleading language?

The word you are looking for is "treat", not "cure".

And its not "cures cancer" its "has been demonstrated to be effective in treating some types of cancer in some patients"



.... And the point of showing all these people dying is to highlight the fact that they held similar beliefs, did not trust traditional medicine and paid for it unnecessarily with their lives.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936680)
Thats all find and well except for you are distorting the facts and willfully ignore any study that says its no more effective that traditional treatment or less effective and you distort the facts. Shrinks all tumors, all the time? All forms of cancer? Equally effective? You cited studies. Good for you. There are just as many studies with ambiguous results. Inconclusive results or showing it was less effective.

It's a widely held belief and commonly acknowledged fact that all types of seeds, spices and foods (those you should eat and those you should avoid) etc help boost immune function and particularly help in killing cancer cells.

No doctor anywhere however will say "this is the perfect replacement for traditional treatment" as that is just never the case.

You ultimately have to start calling everything a conspiracy by big Pharma because thats what you are left with when you aren't being honest about the facts and you've already determined you want to believe something.



Why? It's common knowledge. It's easy to find. He had what I believe was a routine MRI scan, they saw a faint shadow on his pancreas. It could not have possibly been detected earlier than it was as it was barely even detectable. Tests revealed it to be a mild form of pancreatic cancer that is rarely fatal to begin with... so off he went with his "all natural cures" and today he is dead.

Well the handful of people I know that were stage 4 and now are fully cancer free will just have to go ahead and buy those burial plots anyways... Some dude on gfy says it doesn't cure cancer so... ya off with ya to the grave..


New avatar pic for you if you need it..
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Sg-v47f9fE...rs-in-ears.jpg

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936686)
"Proven to cure cancer"... what types of cancer? "cure" as in destroys tumors and cancerous cells in 100% of cases? At what stage of progression? You mean, you just use this thing regardless of the many forms of cancer and at any stage and you are going to be totally A-OK and life will be grand.... or... are you just exaggerating and distorting facts with misleading language?

The word you are looking for is "treat", not "cure".

And its not "cures cancer" its "has been demonstrated to be effective in treating some types of cancer in some patients"



.... And the point of showing all these people dying is to highlight the fact that they held similar beliefs, did not trust traditional medicine and paid for it unnecessarily with their lives.

Well if someone no longer has cancer.. and their doctors say they are 100% healthy what are they exactly? Oh... ya cured...

What types? Here I'll post this for you AGAIN with listing of what types of cancer has had studies done on it..

42 Medical Studies that Prove Cannabis Can Cure Cancer

Cures Brain Cancer

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v9.../6603236a.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11479216

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten...3/838.abstract

http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/10/1/90.abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1576089/

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co...4/16/5617.full

Cures Mouth and Throat Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734

Cures Breast Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20859676

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21915267

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten....full.pdf+html

http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22776349

http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8375.full.pdf+html

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co.../6615.abstract

http://endo.endojournals.org/content....abstract#fn-1

Cures Lung Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22198381

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21097714

http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v2.../1210641a.html

Cures Uterine, Testicular, and Pancreatic Cancers

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page4

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co.../6748.abstract

Cures Prostate Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...5/?tool=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22594963

Cures Colorectal Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22231745

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442536

http://safeaccess.ca/research/pdf/MD...ancerStudy.pdf

http://gut.bmj.com/content/54/12/1741.abstract

Cures Ovarian Cancer

http://www.aacrmeetingabstracts.org/...ct/2006/1/1084

Curse Blood Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12091357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...23584/abstract

http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/co.../1612.abstract

Cures Skin Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12511587

Cures Liver Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304

Cures Biliary Tract Cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793

Cures Bladder Cancer

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/803983
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12514108

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15313899

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TheSquealer 01-07-2014 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 19936737)
Well if someone no longer has cancer.. and their doctors say they are 100% healthy what are they exactly? Oh... ya cured...

What types? Here I'll post this for you AGAIN with listing of what types of cancer has had studies done on it..

Any other questions?

So i click one single study at random, read the abstract and this is exactly my point:

"possible growth-inhibiting action on tumor cells, justifies the setting up of future trials aimed at evaluating the potential antitumoral activity of cannabinoids."

But hey man, it's your religion. Believe anything you want to believe.

Do you know what "possible" and "potential" and even "cured" mean?

Seems not.

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 12:02 PM

Dr. Sanjay Gupta... One of the top leading neurosurgeons in the Nation.. candidate for Surgeon general.. a former critic of Cannabis.. He said he was sorry for being complicit in the propaganda of Cannabis.

Anyone that is Anti cannabis watch this.. if you are still anti cannabis you are just ignorant and thick headed.


stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936746)
So i click one single study at random, read the abstract and this is exactly my point:

"possible growth-inhibiting action on tumor cells, justifies the setting up of future trials aimed at evaluating the potential antitumoral activity of cannabinoids."

But hey man, it's your religion. Believe anything you want to believe.

Do you know what "possible" and "potential" and even "cured" mean?

Seems not.

Have you ever read a study? lol They are studies. I listed 42 of them that have all came to the same conclusion by using scientific method. If it wasn't cannabis you would be all excited about these findings.. lol Even what you quoted sure sounds like it works.

TheSquealer 01-07-2014 12:05 PM

In fact, its pretty clear from reading the abstracts of a few of them now, that you clearly haven't. You just assumed they made your point for you and posted them, when they in fact, make my point.

no one is "anti cannabis" as thats hardly the point here.

You are now officially too dumb to talk to as could be expected of a stoner, I suppose. I am done.

Milan_Quantox 01-07-2014 12:13 PM

Friend says his dad feels better after taking this oil couple of times. Don't know about this site tho, if it's for real...

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19936760)
In fact, its pretty clear from reading the abstracts of a few of them now, that you clearly haven't. You just assumed they made your point for you and posted them, when they in fact, make my point.

no one is "anti cannabis" as thats hardly the point here.

You are now officially too dumb to talk to. I am done.

Yes you read all 42 studies? lmao There are studies in there from Harvard as well.. are they bunk?

A study published in the journal Oncogene, by Harvard Medical Schools Experimental Medicine Department determined that THC inhibits epithelial growth factor induced lung cancer cell migration and more. They go on to state that THC should be explored as novel therapeutic molecules in controlling the growth and metastasis of certain lung cancers. http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v2.../1210641a.html

stickyfingerz 01-07-2014 12:20 PM

Watch this those interested. Dennis Hill a Biochemist that cured his cancer using Cannabis oil.


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