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dgraves 12-19-2013 10:11 PM

Arizona Model Scammer
 
I was contacted today by one of the girls I worked with several times who was asking me about some douche bag posing as a Reality Kings "Senior Executive Producer". I wanted to put this out there in case you know any girls in this area that are approached by the scammer.

This was his pitch to her from his fake RK gmail apecorra.realitykings [at] gmail.com:

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Thanks for responding to my inquiry! I was so happy to finally hear back from you... been a while since I tried, huh? After I came across your profile I reached out to Dave at Gloryhole Swallow and all I heard was positive feedback which was such a relief. That you were easy to work with an extremely professional. I haven't heard back from FTV yet, but am sure I would here the same feedback, correct? Needless to say I am really excited about possibly booking you for a project I have out there next week. Please review the following information I have outlined below for you to get an understanding of the upcoming shoot:

I will be filming about 8 total shoots in Arizona this next upcoming weekend. I tend to come out there twice a month to film (every other weekend is the norm). The pay for the 1 boy / girl scene is $2000.00 with well known male star Tyler Moore. Additionally, you will be paid $200.00 for your work on the non filmed rehearsal with Tyler prior to the main shoot. As you would expect, cash is paid in full the day of the shoot. Since you have some adult experience already so there shouldn't be any surprises.

Reality Kings is a Miami based production company with over 32 diverse websites. All of the sites are members-only, paid environments.The content is only distributed exclusively within our network. If the content your are involved with will be for DVD production there is additional pay for such exposure typically in the form of royalties. The films we are planning for Arizona are for web only and I will break down pay for an additional scene in a moment. Anyways, we produce some of the most trend setting and popular adult content on the internet. While a large company, we always make sure everyone that works with us has a unparalleled experience. This starts with some of the highest pay in the industry and the option for recurring work should that be something you are looking for.

If you are looking for a little extra work the same day of your shoot we can add an additional blowjob scene with Tyler to the shoot. Pay for the extra scene is $800. I total, your compensation will be $3000. Please let me know if you want the scenes ASAP so I can put you in the schedule immediately and lock things down.

More specifically in terms of the rehearsal. I am sure you have seen the type of content we put out and can see we try to take the high end approach. Ultimately I am trying to portray the two of you as a couple on film. This is usually hard to accomplish. The goal behind going this route it the two of you will actually have chemistry on screen, compared to the typical awkwardness that usually is there. This not only results in superior content, but it also makes for a much faster shoot. I also consider this good insurance that you will actually perform. The last thing I would want to do would be come all the way out there only to have a shoot bust. Time is money and I like to work fast. I hope you understand that. Whenever possible I like to shoot a full 25-30 minute scene without stopping. A whole shoot rarely exceeds 2 hours. In the end I feel it delivers a much more raw, believable experience for our customers. I would like the two of you to get together as soon as possible to rehearse the scenes, run through all the positions, etc. So please get with Tyler about that and I am sure you two will work something out. I'll be sending you over script details as soon as you let me know you want the work.

Additionally, I will be sending you over a questionnaire to find out some more details of your comfort levels. From there this will help me understand what your do's and dont's are with regards to filming. This will help me put together the proper scripting that respects your boundaries and most importantly creates some sizzling content. As soon as I get this back I will give you a call and answer any questions you may have.

On a personal note I hope to have the opportunity to work with you. Tyler is a stand up performer, and there is a reason we have worked together so much. To date I've done over 20 films with him. Its hard to find someone as professional and respectful as him on set. If there is anything else you need please let me know. Also, when is a good time for me to call you? I'll do my best to assist. Hope to work with you shortly!

-A.

Alex Pecorra
(559) 964-7395
Senior Executive Producer
www.RealityKings.com

Tyler Moore
(602) 796-8198

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Listen to the scene description this loser sent her:

SCENE

Mallory comes in from the pool, she is wearing a tiny little bikini. She heads towards the bathroom to rinse off. The shower is already running so she peaks in to see what is going on. Her step brother Tyler is taking a shower. Mallory smiles and begins to watch him, rubbing her breasts and starting to play with herself (bikini still on).

Tyler looks over and catches Mallory, grabbing a towel and covering himself up. He asks what she was doing and Mallory simply says nothing. Tyler knows it was nothing and call her out about touching herself. Mallory is embarrassed and apologies. Tyler is a little frustrated and tells her to go wait in the living room because he needs to talk with her about it.

Mallory is on the couch and Tyler sits down next to her, just wearing a towel. He confronts her about what just happened and asked how long she was there watching. Mallory says a few minutes an Tyler is little shocked. Mallory tells Tyler she has never seen him naked and that she though his cock was big.

Tyler kind of smiles and asks her if she would like to see more of it. Mallory of course nods her head. Tyler opens up his towel and tells her she can look and touch all she wants. Mallory starts playing with Tyler with her hands at first, stroking his shaft and rubbing his balls. Tyler unties her bikini top revealing her breasts. He plays with them briefly and asks Mallory is she likes to suck cock. She smiles again and says she love to and has been told she has amazing skills. Tyler tells her to show him.

Tyler is still sitting on the couch and Mallory starts blowing him from the side, Tyler reaching back and rubbing her pussy through her bikini bottom. After a few minutes she stands up in front of Tyler and removes her bikini bottoms, turning around and showing Tyler her ass. She gets on her knees between Tyler's legs and continues to service him (lots of spit/messy). As she does this she occasionally rubs her pussy, moaning as she sucks. This continues for about 5 minutes.

Mallory starts telling Tyler how much she wants him to cum in her mouth, begging him to do so. Tyler stands up and Mallory sucks him very aggressively. As does this Tyler is reaching down rubbing her breasts. Finally Tyler cums in her mouth. She shows him the cum and then swallows, licking her lips

Mallory starts telling Tyler how amazing his cock is and that she wants to fuck him next time. Tyler replies by saying he cant wait to feel her tight little pussy.

END SCENE

Rochard 12-19-2013 10:14 PM

For some reason this just doesn't surprise me at all. And women will fall for it too.

dgraves 12-19-2013 10:16 PM

I bet a lot fall for it.

badgirlfilms 12-20-2013 12:12 AM

too much writing for it to be a real producer

bean-aid 12-20-2013 12:16 AM

Cliff notes?

dgraves 12-20-2013 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgirlfilms (Post 19916518)
too much writing for it to be a real producer

Exactly what I told her. Chica use to get custom video requests from members that look very similar to the scene he sent her so I knew right away it was from a fan. Him writing that scene out and sending it to her was probably half the thrill.

SBJ 12-20-2013 12:58 AM

looks legit to me! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mikesouth 12-20-2013 01:06 AM

LOTS of these asshats popping up lately and they always claim to be with reality kings, bangbros and brazzers

~Ray 12-20-2013 05:37 AM

isn't there some loser out in AZ tricking girls into venereal diseases?

kane 12-20-2013 05:43 AM

So is the scam that the girl shows up, does the scene and doesn't get paid? Or is that she does the scene, but it isn't really for Reality Kings?

I guess I am missing something here.

L-Pink 12-20-2013 08:44 AM

I fell for it, I feel so used.

Grapesoda 12-20-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19916730)
So is the scam that the girl shows up, does the scene and doesn't get paid? Or is that she does the scene, but it isn't really for Reality Kings?

I guess I am missing something here.

that's my thinking..,. she walks away with 3K.... totally fucked over for sure :2 cents:

dyna mo 12-20-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19916896)
I fell for it, I feel so used.

you mean falling for this thread? me too.

:1orglaugh

davethedope 12-20-2013 09:36 AM

Are there any real producers in Arizona?

Nubiles 12-20-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19916448)
I was contacted today by one of the girls I worked with several times who was asking me about some douche bag posing as a Reality Kings "Senior Executive Producer".

I just emailed you about a guy using the Nubiles name to scam models.

Nubiles 12-20-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19916913)
that's my thinking..,. she walks away with 3K.... totally fucked over for sure :2 cents:

I don't think that is how its going.

dgraves 12-20-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19916730)
So is the scam that the girl shows up, does the scene and doesn't get paid? Or is that she does the scene, but it isn't really for Reality Kings?

I guess I am missing something here.

Guys like him are the real "Casting Couch" scammers.

They attract the girls using big program names and good money. They promise them lots of work but they have to do an "audition" first. The girl shows up at some sleazy motel, the guy does whatever he wants with her and then he tells her he has to report back to his boss before payment can be made. Sometimes they record this "audition", sometimes they don't. Some don't want the evidence and some can't resist. In this particular case he told he she would get $200 for the audition but would only get paid the day of the official shoot. I'm sure he would have just told her that she didn't get the shoot.

The girl never hears from the guy again. Either that, or he says the first video didn't turn out that great and his so called "boss" wants a second audition. I've heard many variations of this story but the end result is the same, the girl gets fucked and no pay.

dgraves 12-20-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethedope (Post 19916975)
Are there any real producers in Arizona?

Yes, a handful. Quite a few of the big programs recruit from here but they rarely shoot the scenes here. They normally fly them to FL or Cali.

FreeHugeMovies 12-20-2013 11:02 AM

Sounds like a great scam. Where do I signup? hehe

kane 12-20-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19917019)
Guys like him are the real "Casting Couch" scammers.

They attract the girls using big program names and good money. They promise them lots of work but they have to do an "audition" first. The girl shows up at some sleazy motel, the guy does whatever he wants with her and then he tells her he has to report back to his boss before payment can be made. Sometimes they record this "audition", sometimes they don't. Some don't want the evidence and some can't resist. In this particular case he told he she would get $200 for the audition but would only get paid the day of the official shoot. I'm sure he would have just told her that she didn't get the shoot.

The girl never hears from the guy again. Either that, or he says the first video didn't turn out that great and his so called "boss" wants a second audition. I've heard many variations of this story but the end result is the same, the girl gets fucked and no pay.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

SuckOnThis 12-20-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19917019)
the girl gets fucked and no pay.

Every womans nightmare.

dyna mo 12-20-2013 11:38 AM

how is this different from a "legit" casting call?

JFK 12-20-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19916541)
LOTS of these asshats popping up lately and they always claim to be with reality kings, bangbros and brazzers

They are selling the name to gain legitimacy. Fuckers :mad:

dgraves 12-20-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19917099)
how is this different from a "legit" casting call?

The legit "Casting" sites actually pay the girls. These guys are trying to get laid by misleading the girls because they are so lame they can't get laid any other way.

They give legitimate producers a bad name.

dyna mo 12-20-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19917215)
The legit "Casting" sites actually pay the girls. These guys are trying to get laid by misleading the girls because they are so lame they can't get laid any other way.

They give legitimate producers a bad name.

i'm not referring to casting sites, whatever that is. i'm talking about casting calls. i've been a part of many many casting calls for several sites, none paid the girls for casting calls.

also, there are quite a few porn producers/people that got in this business because it's the only way they can get laid.

dgraves 12-20-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19917222)
i'm not referring to casting sites, whatever that is. i'm talking about casting calls. i've been a part of many many casting calls for several sites, none paid the girls for casting calls.

also, there are quite a few porn producers/people that got in this business because it's the only way they can get laid.

You've never heard of "Casting" sites?

I'm not sure if you're following the story. This isn't a legit casting call and this guy doesn't work for RK but is using their name and the promise of pay to con girls into having sex with him. He's not a producer so I doubt very much that he's going to actually pay the girls $3K. If that was the case then he could just be up front and tell the girl that he'll pay her $3K for a private video. I'm sure most girls would be more than willing to do that.

What you're referring to is completely different. If a program doesn't pay for auditions then that's their business and acceptable providing that the girl knows that in advance.

marlboroack 12-20-2013 02:27 PM

Incase you didn't know.. these are the scammers that go missing.

dyna mo 12-20-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19917266)
You've never heard of "Casting" sites?

I'm not sure if you're following the story. This isn't a legit casting call and this guy doesn't work for RK but is using their name and the promise of pay to con girls into having sex with him. He's not a producer so I doubt very much that he's going to actually pay the girls $3K. If that was the case then he could just be up front and tell the girl that he'll pay her $3K for a private video. I'm sure most girls would be more than willing to do that.

What you're referring to is completely different. If a program doesn't pay for auditions then that's their business and acceptable providing that the girl knows that in advance.

i'm not sure what story you're referring to. i'm certainly following this thread. and no, i'm not familiar with each and every micro-niche in porn, nor do i feel the need to be.

whether or not this producer is legitimate, based on the length of the email, well. did you call the #s and verify it's a scam and that person does not work for rk?

dgraves 12-20-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19917290)
did you call the #s and verify it's a scam and that person does not work for rk?

That thought never crossed my mind. I figured I'd just go off half-cocked and then worry with the facts at a later time.

Nikki_Licks 12-20-2013 03:02 PM

Hummm, I am in Phoenix and have never heard of this person before today. Will be sure to pass along any info to potential models.

dyna mo 12-20-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19917325)
That thought never crossed my mind. I figured I'd just go off half-cocked and then worry with the facts at a later time.

understandable, this is the adult biz.

dgraves 12-20-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19917357)
understandable, this is the adult biz.

I'm glad you got my sarcasm. He fucked up by bringing my name into his little scam. I work with the same girls many times so it's my best interest to look out for them when I can so I was glad she contacted me to check him out. I tell every girl I shoot to watch out for these guys and I'm more than happy to check them out first. Like most models, she's in a bind for cash and was going to take the shoot.

He also fucked up by telling her she could contact another model who did several shoots with RK for a reference. Unfortunately for him I also shot the same girl several times and contacted her with the number I had, not the one he provided. She never heard of Alex from RK so just for shits and giggles I called the number he provided for the girl and of course there was no answer. A few minutes later I got a text back telling me it was her but she couldn't talk on the phone, just text.

If I had more time I would have tagged along for this "audition" just to fuck with the guy.

dyna mo 12-20-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19917450)
I'm glad you got my sarcasm. He fucked up by bringing my name into his little scam. I work with the same girls many times so it's my best interest to look out for them when I can so I was glad she contacted me to check him out. I tell every girl I shoot to watch out for these guys and I'm more than happy to check them out first. Like most models, she's in a bind for cash and was going to take the shoot.

He also fucked up by telling her she could contact another model who did several shoots with RK for a reference. Unfortunately for him I also shot the same girl several times and contacted her with the number I had, not the one he provided. She never heard of Alex from RK so just for shits and giggles I called the number he provided for the girl and of course there was no answer. A few minutes later I got a text back telling me it was her but she couldn't talk on the phone, just text.

If I had more time I would have tagged along for this "audition" just to fuck with the guy.

appreciate the update, wasn't trying to fuck with you, that much ;-),

but there wasn't anything in the op about you confirming the scam.

LeRoy 12-20-2013 05:03 PM

In time, they'll catch up with this scumbag. If he's lucky its the cops that catch him.


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