Attention: Plugrush.com - fake traffic
 

Hello guyz!

I'm posting this to warn you about buying popunders on plugrush.com. I have recently tried them out by buying around 10k traffic and I've found out that the majority of traffic is bot/fake traffic.

Almost 50% of traffic comes from one city which suggests IP spoofing at ISP.

Since the popunder traffic from PlugRush has very low bounce rate (71% - which is quite low for popunders) I've suspected that the bots stay on page for a little while and follow random internal urls on the site.

To test this theory I have created 2 hidden links (I put them in footer and set front color same as back color so they are not visible to regular users).

I've suspected the traffic from PlugRush was following those links as well.

Conclusion: PlugRush has around 60% fake traffic.

I suggest you not to buy traffic from PlugRush.com.

I figured this some time ago. I am not here to blame plugrush, but you should start reviewing accounts. It's shitty. Or maybe you are doing something shitty.

What exactly do you mean by reviewing accounts?

PlugRush should do better job in filtering the fake traffic and ban bot sites. The whole point of this post was to let other GFY users know. The whole porpuse of buying traffic there was to test if the traffic is good or not. And I'm just sharing what I figured out to others so they don't need to send bucks on testing it :)

The screenshots you show, has a metric total of 314 visits on one and 242 on the other.

Please explain, how they prove anything?

exactly... that's about 3,14 or 2,42 percent of bot traffic on 10k sample...

I'm not here to prove anything... I just wrote this post to warn you guyz and post my findings to spare you some money. If you don't belive it then don't and your free to try it out yourself :)

If you think about it it's obvious.

Regarding different numbers... ofc, it's popunders. On Plugrush they do a burst of popunders (for example if u set 1k per hour u gonna get 1k in first minute which means that u got them fast and u will loose them fast... that's why there are different numbers).

Well they prove to at least some degree that Plugrush has a number of bots that are clicking links and engaging in unethical behavior: Tempe has a population of 3,000 - so unless you want to argue that 5% of the population were clicking on this guy's link, it's likely that the hits came from a bot, and thus, those who are using Plugrush to get hits should be wary.

Where did you get those numbers?

intersting thread

But you are accusing a company of fraud... and you provide no actual proof. That's pretty serious man.

You miss understood me. I am not accusing company of fraud but their lack of ability to filter out such traffic.

They should filter it out and ban the publishers. And I think I provided quite enough of proof. How do you expain that users click on invisible links (same front and back color) unless they are bots and they follow random links and 50% of traffic from small city?

They accept every shitty site and webmaster to their network.

People on blackhat forums always put plugrush on their questionable adult sites.

http://i.imgur.com/AO6mUXK.png

Here's my personal experience with the 'webcam' niche popunders on Plug Rush compared to one of my webcam blog's popunders.

Ah, what you are really asking us to do is take your proof at face value? How about showing us what page you popped and all the numbers? I presume that at least, the page got zero traffic from other sources, since that would clearly pollute your test and render it very invalid.

Also when buying traffic - from any source - 10K isn't even going to get close to being something you can test with. Anyone that's an experienced media buyer will tell you that you must be prepared to spend thousands to test, filer and setup something that works.

PlugRush has plenty of highly productive traffic that works for many people, I just think your test is bogus tbh and like so many others, you run to GFY instead of working with the actual company to solve the problem.

Did you talk to PlugRush about this?

True. If his source is 100% cut off from any spiders. But yea, anyone that is buying traffic from any source should check and filter out the unproductive sources, this is pretty common knowledge :)

Man I wish I had seen this like 3 days ago. I just bough 8K of popunders from PR as a test for MFC thru Crak and got 1:8000 ratio and out of that close to 4000 were from Canada and came from 2 urls... I thought it was weird when it happened.

What's up with all these new low post people trying to slam Plugrush on here lately? I love Plugrush and I sell them real SE blog traffic in all niches, so someone's buying my mobile traffic :).

Are you going to post REAL proof man?

lol @ all of these new user accounts trying to make us look bad...keep trying haters.

It's obviously a competitor...any real webmaster can see this.

Hmmm, I not defending plugrush here nor accusing, but how is it possible for a bot I mean to pop a popunder ... ?

Also the images are not relevent, you're just showing us some clicks from some city and that's all... Maybe there is server node in Tempe or something, 146 hits are really not revelevant...

Also they may be spiders, for example tumblr has about 50% spiders..

Interesting.

You need way fucking more testing from those shots be for coming up with that assumption you asshole.

ppl can say the same thing about adultking an all his new low post ppl praising him.
whats your point ???? adultkings low post ppl are fake too or does that only apply here because you dont like it ????

OK so we can consider this solved?

rofl no shit.

And the most professional reply award goes to...

Juicyads?Exoclick?Ero-advertising?Willy wonka? Who who?

a lot of new user accounts on here, so what, thats your safety blanket to dismiss these claims ???? youre not going to conduct a investigation. if plugrush was my business ya bet your ass id be looking into it an publicly posting my report. seems your investigation will be directing your browser to planet suzy. way to stay on top of shit :thumbsup

I spoke to the person that created the thread before you ever posted. Yes, it has been solved.

I've spoken with Plugrush guy regarding this issue and we's working on solving the fake traffic issue.

Hopefully there's gonna be more healthy traffic from now on.

your claims were true after all. so much for the fucking intelligent established high post count cum drops blaming new low post count accounts for sabotaging plugrush. good luck to ya man and thx for posting your finds !!!! :thumbsup

Whats with all the fake nicks?

David is not a fake nick, he is a partner of Porndeals.com. He shouldn't have made this post without talking to plugrush first though, but thats because he hasn't been in the game long and doesn't know certain "rules".

We are sorry about this thread and hope plugrush can tackle this bot traffic issue.

Plugrush is pretty fucking awesome.

Tempe has a population over 150,000.

Wouldn't most just do a test run anywhere before going all in regardless of where bought or source to see how it performs? All I'm saying is that to me the best thing would be to test a source. See if it does well for you and meets your standards and if not then move on to next. If great then double down maybe? Idk, not trying to get into mix just trying to shed logical light on all.

seems like more its always crowded

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Love your username !

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I buy traffic from plugrush, pretty much testing all their sources and delivery options, Im not buying huge amounts but its like 30 - 60 k per day, depending on what type of traffic I buy on agiven day ...

There is a significant amount of fake traffic in the mix, but still, they are one of the best sources to use considering the price per K I can achieve. Sure, you gotta block a shitload of sites and constantly monitor it, but there are good sources in the mix.

There are WAY worse brokers out there and I still have to figure out how they can survive for so long, plugrush is still decent :) Maybe one day Im drunk enough to share the results of my tracking tests, you would wonder what kind of crap some brokers sell for years :) If all were like plugrush, this would be a better world :)

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After i blocked out the shit/fake sites i got exactly 0 traffic the next day :1orglaugh
I guess i have to raise the cpv then but that would mean it gets to expensive for me.

Plugrush is great.. But if you need another great ad program, you can use Ero-advertising.com! See sig. :thumbsup

Why do you think that?

Because they always pay me on time and I never ever had a problem with them... :thumbsup

So you're saying that plugrush was showing 1600 clicks but google analytics shows you 0 ??