Just when I was convinced that Oswald acted alone .....
 

I stumbled/googled upon this PBS interview done in 1993 with a very respected attorney and law professor, G Robert Blakey. Blakey served as chief counsel to the 1977 House Select Committee on Assassinations, leading the investigation into the assassination of John F Kennedy. There's an addendum written by Blakey ten years later in 2003 outraged that there was now damning evidence that the CIA had obstructed the investigation.

Lee Harvey Oswald was not your average mixed up 24 year old ex-Marine. In the middle of the Cold War he defects to the Soviet Union. He becomes disillusioned with the Soviet brand of Communism so he returns to the USA with a Russian wife in tow and works shitty jobs, doesn't even have a car. Just 2 months before the assassination, he sets his sights on Cuba to further his Marxist dreams, he travels to Mexico City and visits the Cuban consul there, he gets rejected, he then shows up at the Soviet embassy in Mexico and for some unknown bizarre reason meets Valery Kostikov, a KGB agent stationed there, who belongs to the KGB's assassination unit. This isn't conspiracy theory, it's fact. Earlier in 1963, in the spring, he returns to New Orleans where he had grown up. It turns out that Oswald's uncle in New Orleans is an ex-boxer and fight promoter and bookie, under control of powerful Mob boss Carlos Marcello. The Congressional Committee invites a guy named Becker to testify, Becker testifies that he had a conversation with Marcello where Marcello expressed his desire to find a nut to kill the man behind Bobby Kennedy, his brother John, the President of the United States. The Committee finds Becker to be a credible witness. Years later the Mob boss of Tampa, Santo Trafficante, is facing serious surgery, and confides to his long time lawyer, that Marcello messed up, that 'we should have killed Bobby, not John'.

What 24 year old 'loner' just happens to have had meetings with KGB assassins and has a familial relationship connected to a Mafia boss whom a credible witness testifies was looking for a nut to kill the President?

Very compelling interview - worth a read if you're of the opinion Oswald acted alone.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...robert-blakey/

We have JFK fever here in the UK as well ATM...

It's been fifty years and a there's been a new theory for every day of those years.....

We will never know for sure - Move on...

Its simple
1. Oswald fires 2 shots misses one time
2. When 1 secret service hears shots pulls up loaded loaded rifle and accidentally shoots JFK.
3. Secrete service tries to cover it up.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...nd-mexico-city

These aren't conspiracy theories - one day it still might be possible with new evidence to tie others to Oswald and the assassination, the conspiracy may turn out not that the CIA aided Oswald, but that they knew he was a threat to the president and did nothing to stop him. The CIA and FBI can't be trusted, as Blakey discovered.

The absurdity of this is beyond belief.

Modern ballistics and acoustic science has proven to a near certainty that 3 shots from that 6th floor were the only shots fired.

Anyone who seriously studies the subject knows that Oswald was the only shooter and any debate can be only about motive... and if he or Ruby were directed by anyone or any agency to do the things they did.

Research into Oswalds life can clearly show that he could have been self motivated - and the same is true for Ruby. So anyone convinced of a broader conspiracy is deluding themselves - yet the same is true for anyone who is 100 percent convinced they acted alone.

It's entirely possible, even probable, that the CIA and the KGB could have had contact with Oswald (both agencies apparently DID have contact with Oswald) - yet not necessarily direct him to attempt the assassination. The miniscule percentage for success he had with the plan he of action he took means it's far more likely he hatched the scheme on his own, although it would be crazy not to keep an open mind to the possibility that he was directed and assisted in some way.

Keep in mind that any vocal Marxist who attempted defection to the USSR (who traveled and lived there) would absolutely be in contact in various ways with both the CIA and KGB - so contact is a given - and of course the CIA would cover up and hide any association...this is really far from an assurance that he wasn't completely self-motivated.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...nd-mexico-city

This demonstrates that it's far more likely that the CIA was covering it's ass for the biggest fuck-up in history (by allowing Oswald his freedom) rather than any hand in the Presidents murder.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...nd-mexico-city

This is amazing, check out the footnotes, most of them are scans of correspondence between the most powerful men in Washington following the assassination.

They were literally freaking out about these CIA tape recordings of phone conversations an Oswald impersonator had with the Cuban and Russian consuls in Mexico only two months before Dallas that linked Oswald to this well known KGB assassin, they were scared shitless that if it got in the media that Oswald killed Kennedy while working for Kruschev and Castro that it would escalate into an all out nuclear war. So it was decided that the Warren Commission had to be pre-ordained to reach one conclusion, that Oswald acted alone.

This was right after the assassination, they had no idea if Oswald was or wasn't working for the Soviets - what I can't figure out is who was impersonating Oswald and why. The Russians and Castro surely if they had a part in Kennedy's murder didn't want it to get out and end up getting nuked by the Americans.

That seems to be a big part of it, they let a kook they knew to be a kook murder the president of the United States, perhaps just sheer incompetence or perhaps ..........

BUT there's also this, Oswald was in Mexico City in late September, the CIA station there did its job, they reported to CIA headquarters in Washington what Oswald was up to and asked headquarters what they had on Oswald. CIA headquarters LIED to its station in Mexico, said it had nothing on Oswald at all, when in reality they did have files open on him. Why did they lie? This lie was told two months BEFORE the assassination.

I just looked up when Kennedy's trip to Dallas was first planned, it was back in the spring of 63, and finalized in early September. Oswald gets this menial job at the Texas School Depository a couple weeks later.

Let's see, if they are any more close to the truth, on the 100th anniversay :Graucho

How/why he got that job and if anyone helped him get it should be a central point which seems to be largely ignored.

For those who think they have any sense of radar about when people are lying - watch this and its pretty damn clear the only liars are the CIA Chief and Oswald himself.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oswald/

it seems pretty clear that the Russians didn't have a hand in this - just a crazy case of Keystone cops ineptitude that cost the President his life.

if it's just a 'lone gunman' why are the documents about this desperately being kept a secret, still to this day. If you think he acted alone, you're pretty gullible and naive to say the least.

Narrowing it down to the various suspects.

Castro
Lyndon Johnson
The KGB
The Vatican
The Mafia
The CIA
The FBI

Who am I missing??

Military industrial complex

It's no secret Kennedy wanted to dismantle the CIA. Of which Oswald obviously had ties.

So according to the conspiracy theorists whoever was behind it had Ruby knock off Oswald because they were afraid of what he knew and what he would say, yet they werent afraid of Ruby saying what he knew. Makes perfect sense.

Oswald was just a crazy fanatic, it's been proven from the angle of the shots, the bullets came from the same place. It was a lone gunman.. Did he get any help, who knows.. Did he have ties to the mob.. Yea I'm sure he did, back in those days the mob was more known by the public and a lot of people did business with them. Hell my grandfather, when he was a teen did work for the mob. It really wasn't out of the ordinary to have ties with the mob if you grew up in certain areas back then...

I've been shooting guns since I was 8, I'm scary good. Trained by a Marine corp step father.
Just saying that because I can tell you making a head shot on a moving target at that distance with a rifle that was designed in 1891 is a hell of a shot

If you took the time to look into any of the material posted in this thread you wouldnt come in and make such a gullible and naive statement - but I will save you the time since you obviously have zero true curiosity about the facts: The KGB and CIA had full knowledge of Oswalds movements and there are solid facts and testimony from agents that prove this - the CIA made a series of errors that underestimated the danger he posed (they apparently thought he was a harmless wormy loser) and they allowed him to continue to operate after returning from his trip to Mexico City where he was attempting to get asylum to Cuba - this was basically the biggest dropped ball of all time so obviously they are trying to cover up the fuck-up.

Coming into a thread like this with people who know this issue and name calling makes you look exactly like WeHatePorn.

You mean that he didn't have a laser scope? Hell of a shot indeed!

The Federal Reserve. Kennedy was making moves to eliminate it I believe. I guess they are connected to all or some of the above though.

Watch the Clint Hill interview with Charlie Rose. Interesting and sad guy.

maybe jfk made up his killing?

Wrong thread

It was pretty much a straight on shot from the window he was at. Most likely Oswald aimed at Kennedy' s body but due to the car moving the bullets hit his upper body. Also keep in mind that the rear seat in that car was elevated so people could see the President better, added to this the driver actually slowed down after Kennedy was hit the first time making a much easier target for the final shot.

It is SO clear the first hit to his head was from behind and the 2ND hit was from the front. Very very clear in the video.

You may have been a good shot back in the 60's or whatever - but now those fat fucking fingers wouldn't fit in a rifle.

Very Very clear that you have no curiosity about the facts or you would have looked at the massive amount of facts and recreations from ballistics experts that all agree that there were only shots fired from behind.

um....Oswald?

I guess money doesn't buy you brains.

Still the only fact in this thread.....

If you were attempting to invalidate Vendzilla's experience-based opinion with the comment above - you failed.

To this day I'm still amazed by the pristine bullet that miraculously showed up on the hospital gurney. It's the little details that tend to get overlooked by many these days.

And then there's the puzzling question of Jack Ruby's real motivation to kill Oswald.

No the pristine bullet was NOT pristine, and it's probably the most easily proven and LEAST overlooked aspect of the entire event.

And its all clearly proven in this doc: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

I used to buy into the Oswald conspiracy years ago but I am now convinced that he acted alone and was the only shooter, now I wouldn't be surprised if someone helped him or also knew of his plans. But most likely they were one of his crazy commie friends and not the Mob or CIA. I am most convinced by the fact that there were better rifles available to him in the catalog where he bought the gun, rifles with faster reload times and a better scope. However he bought the cheapest one they had because he was a broke mofo, if he truly had an organization backing him wouldn't they have provided him with a better rifle that was also untraceable?

The conversation is about the conspiracy, Commander Thick.

It's been determined that Oswald pulled the trigger.

It figures you'd be the only one that can't keep up with a simple discussion.

Uh-huh...


http://www.mrgallaghersclass.com/htm...ages/img13.jpg

The Frontline piece lays it out so clearly - anyone who really looks at this issue with an open mind, and listens to the testimony of the players involved...and still believes there was a conspiracy..has to evolve those theories to take into consideration all the new information.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oswald/

Would you consider a fully jacket bullet that is slightly warped and curved to the point where it would no longer slide through the barrel it was designed for still "pristine"?

Would you consider a bullet that has ejected lead out of the back of it - the same lead found in the wrist of Gov. Connelly "pristine"?

Did you watch the video of this same model of bullet, fired from the same model of gun, emerge from a huge stack of wood - also appearing to be "pristine"?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

lol - It took me a while a while to realize it wasn't a random dildo pic...

Ignorance is bliss, and the American public up till recently has been very ignorant thinking they knew what happened

I have no idea what you mean by this statement because the vast majority of Americans believe (wrongly) that either the CIA, The Mafia, or the KGB orchestrated the assassination.