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madtwin 11-15-2013 11:15 AM

Lords of Porn and OCCash PPS gone?!
 
Just got a sale through Lords of Porn for $12... I always use PPS links only so decided to check what's up. It seems that they dropped PPS programs and converted all links to Revshare... The same goes for OCCash PPS links.

No email, no info on their website... New owner or something? Maybe it just my account?

Juicy D. Links 11-15-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madtwin (Post 19874309)
Just got a sale through Lords of Porn for $12... I always use PPS links only so decided to check what's up. It seems that they dropped PPS programs and converted all links to Revshare... The same goes for OCCash PPS links.

No email, no info on their website... New owner or something? Maybe it just my account?

Same owners minus xxxjay who left.

PornDiscounts-V 11-15-2013 11:38 AM

When XXXJay left I realized it was going to be bad over there. Say what you will about his coke whore party lifestyle, but he was the voice of reason over there. With him gone I don't trust the program.

AaronM 11-15-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 19874313)
Same owners minus xxxjay who left.


Hmmm. Not quite.

I thought you were more in the loop than this Juicy?

AaronM 11-15-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19874336)
Say what you will about his coke whore party lifestyle, but he was the voice of reason over there.


Jay was the voice of reason?

Really?

I have nothing bad to say about Jay but to call him that...well...It make me wonder WTF you're smoking.

CamTraffic 11-15-2013 12:18 PM

JC running the show now?
I miss Chating with Jeff K :(

JC-OCCash 11-15-2013 12:22 PM

Hey MadTwin...hit me up [email protected] I'll go over your account info.....also our affiliate manager is Dan Hogue ...you can reach him at [email protected] ...And yes Jeff k is still around but on a part time basis..he will be coming back full time soon. ;)

Morgan 11-15-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 19874374)
JC running the show now?
I miss Chating with Jeff K :(

JC and I have been running the show since day one. Jay came on board later, and as you're aware, is no longer with the company. :)

Dan 11-15-2013 01:04 PM

There was a joint decision that was made some time ago while Jay was still with the company to do away with PPS on that program as a whole and others due to the high amount of affiliate fraud associated with PPS. I am happy to take a look at the accounts individually to see if it is in both our interest to continue. I am sorry that you did not receive the notice that was sent on this.

We at OC, PSP, and LOP are focused and looking to the future with major revamping of all of the OCCash sites and PornStarPlatinum continues to grow at an astounding rate.

JC has always run all of the programs as managing partner.

Again if you or any of the affiliates of the programs would like for me to to take a look at your accounts I am happy to do so.

I can be reached at any of the following means at any time.

Regards,

Dan H
www.OCCash.com
www.PornStarplatinum.com
Cell (321)917-1569
Skype danhogue1
ICQ 491354077

madtwin 11-15-2013 03:23 PM

Now everything is clear. Contacted Dan. Thanks.

Morgan 11-15-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madtwin (Post 19874516)
Now everything is clear. Contacted Dan. Thanks.

Awesome! If you ever have any other questions or concerns, you'll probably get a faster response directly contacting us so please don't hesitate!

PornDiscounts-V 11-16-2013 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 19874368)
Jay was the voice of reason?

Really?

I have nothing bad to say about Jay but to call him that...well...It make me wonder WTF you're smoking.

Sorry. I was hanging with Rob Ford last night.

PornDiscounts-V 11-16-2013 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 19874403)
There was a joint decision that was made some time ago while Jay was still with the company to do away with PPS on that program as a whole and others due to the high amount of affiliate fraud associated with PPS. I am happy to take a look at the accounts individually to see if it is in both our interest to continue. I am sorry that you did not receive the notice that was sent on this.

We at OC, PSP, and LOP are focused and looking to the future with major revamping of all of the OCCash sites and PornStarPlatinum continues to grow at an astounding rate.

JC has always run all of the programs as managing partner.

Again if you or any of the affiliates of the programs would like for me to to take a look at your accounts I am happy to do so.

I can be reached at any of the following means at any time.

Regards,

Dan H
www.OCCash.com
www.PornStarplatinum.com
Cell (321)917-1569
Skype danhogue1
ICQ 491354077

Good to hear. Content was too good to wrap my head around things going so south. Lots of great affiliates can still do PPS then if their numbers and trust warrants it?

Dan 11-16-2013 12:35 PM

you bet. Just hit me up and I am happy to look at it on a case by case basis

xxxjay 11-18-2013 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19874336)
When XXXJay left I realized it was going to be bad over there. Say what you will about his coke whore party lifestyle, but he was the voice of reason over there. With him gone I don't trust the program.

That is kind of a back handed compliment, but thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 19874403)
There was a joint decision that was made some time ago while Jay was still with the company to do away with PPS

Half truth Dan. I WAS there at the time, however I didn't find out about the PPS removal till AFTER it was done. I had no say in the matter. There was no email, phone call, or ICQ.

It just got switched. I didn't know myself till weeks later.

Let's keep the facts straight.

Far-L 11-19-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19876796)
That is kind of a back handed compliment, but thanks.



Half truth Dan. I WAS there at the time, however I didn't find out about the PPS removal till AFTER it was done. I had no say in the matter. There was no email, phone call, or ICQ.

It just got switched. I didn't know myself till weeks later.

Let's keep the facts straight.

Something is rotten in Denmark...

JFK 11-19-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19878566)
Something is rotten in Denmark...

what makes you think that ?? ;)

Far-L 11-19-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19878582)
what makes you think that ?? ;)

First, a half truth is much closer to a lie than it is to the truth.

Next, I put Jay's comment through my special GFY Bull-O-Meter, patent pending, which is able to filter between the lines.

And finally...

The Federation has received reports that Dan Hogue is in fact The Borg. :Oh crap :winkwink:

xxxjay 11-19-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19878604)
First, a half truth is much closer to a lie than it is to the truth.

Next, I put Jay's comment through my special GFY Bull-O-Meter, patent pending, which is able to filter between the lines.

And finally...

The Federation has received reports that Dan Hogue is in fact The Borg. :Oh crap :winkwink:

Far-L, far from the truth. It has always been my opinion; even before I was a program owner, if you were doing 2 pre-checked X-Sales, you should be doing PPS.

By offering PPS, you would get better webmasters, more joins, and even if you lost money on the initials you could still make money on the x-sales.

The decision to eliminate the PPS program was done without my knowledge, because my partners knew I would oppose it. I knew that some accounts word being moved back to revshare for fraud or eliminated altogether.

I didn't know the PPS was gone until I logged in the program myself and looked.

This is a perfect example of why my partners and I parted ways. As being the "face of the company", I would be the one to ultimately look bad when things like this were uncovered.

I was a webmaster before I was a program owner. I always have been, and still am "pro-webmaster". Without good webmasters your affiliate program is nothing.

Having someone like Dan disparage me on a public board and put words in my mouth like this is very hurtful to my reputation. I worked very hard for the last 14 years to be somebody in this business. However, I could see how something like this would paint me in a bad light. That's why I would've handled this differently.

Towards the end of the OCCash relationship, there was little to no communication at all. It would've been my job to contact the webmasters to tell them we were discontinuing our PPS programs. I was never given that directive, nor was I part of the decision-making process to terminate PPS.

Sorry, you think I am bullshitting, but what I am telling you is the truth.

:2 cents:

xxxjay 11-19-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 19874403)
There was a joint decision that was made some time ago while Jay was still with the company to do away with PPS on that program as a whole and others due to the high amount of affiliate fraud associated with PPS. I am happy to take a look at the accounts individually to see if it is in both our interest to continue. I am sorry that you did not receive the notice that was sent on this.

We at OC, PSP, and LOP are focused and looking to the future with major revamping of all of the OCCash sites and PornStarPlatinum continues to grow at an astounding rate.

JC has always run all of the programs as managing partner.

Again if you or any of the affiliates of the programs would like for me to to take a look at your accounts I am happy to do so.

I can be reached at any of the following means at any time.

Regards,

Dan H
www.OCCash.com
www.PornStarplatinum.com
Cell (321)917-1569
Skype danhogue1
ICQ 491354077

PS, Dan you might want to check your own sig. You are still advertising to webmasters your a PPS program...

http://i.imgur.com/GARs1yy.png

HookUPcom 11-19-2013 02:20 PM

Divorce is tuff... do your best to say nice things about each other in public.

It's hard to understand why your friends like your ex after you are divorced... But they usually still do.
And that's good and the way it should be.

Best.

xxxjay 11-19-2013 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookUPcom (Post 19878829)
Divorce is tuff... do your best to say nice things about each other in public.

It's hard to understand why your friends like your ex after you are divorced... But they usually still do.
And that's good and the way it should be.

Best.

I understand that and I agree completely. Why do you think I have not said anything about them publicly other than I was leaving the company?

I don't appreciate having others speak for me or insinuating that I was part of the decision-making on things that I wasn't.

Dan 11-19-2013 06:13 PM

I remember the removal of PPS and when offering it only on a case by case basis was decided. I am respectfully responding with the facts to questions and comments that were made regarding the initial question and comments. As evident from the threads, the original affiliate and I have been in touch and things are being taken care of as they should be and in a professional manner on a case by case basis which is our policy.

We still offer PPS on a case by case basis and affiliates are always welcome to reach me at any time to discuss. Please allow this message to be final and, if necessary, I can be reached directly to discuss as this will be the last post that the company will have regarding this issue.

Regards,

Dan H
www.OCCash.com
www.PornStarplatinum.com
www.OcModeling.com
Cell (321)917-1569
Skype danhogue1
ICQ 491354077

Far-L 11-19-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19878806)
Far-L, far from the truth. It has always been my opinion; even before I was a program owner, if you were doing 2 pre-checked X-Sales, you should be doing PPS.

By offering PPS, you would get better webmasters, more joins, and even if you lost money on the initials you could still make money on the x-sales.

The decision to eliminate the PPS program was done without my knowledge, because my partners knew I would oppose it. I knew that some accounts word being moved back to revshare for fraud or eliminated altogether.

I didn't know the PPS was gone until I logged in the program myself and looked.

This is a perfect example of why my partners and I parted ways. As being the "face of the company", I would be the one to ultimately look bad when things like this were uncovered.

I was a webmaster before I was a program owner. I always have been, and still am "pro-webmaster". Without good webmasters your affiliate program is nothing.

Having someone like Dan disparage me on a public board and put words in my mouth like this is very hurtful to my reputation. I worked very hard for the last 14 years to be somebody in this business. However, I could see how something like this would paint me in a bad light. That's why I would've handled this differently.

Towards the end of the OCCash relationship, there was little to no communication at all. It would've been my job to contact the webmasters to tell them we were discontinuing our PPS programs. I was never given that directive, nor was I part of the decision-making process to terminate PPS.

Sorry, you think I am bullshitting, but what I am telling you is the truth.

:2 cents:

My apologies, I wasn't calling bullshit on you at all. I was just goofing on Dan to recapture a bit of the good ol' days from the Amateur Masters board.

The details of the separation honestly are none of my biz and I was just poking to see if I could stir up drama like a damn dirty little gfy troll.

I know...

Like Primus... I suck.


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