100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare
 

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...andrew-johnson

Damn, lots of people are losing their insurance, losing their jobs or having their hours cut because of Obamacare.

Oh well, Maybe we can get lucky and have the same deal as the DHS in Britain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ents-year.html

what happened to the thread you were crying in

Unintended
 

Unintended

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PIRIUD !

Insurance cancelled? Don't blame Obama or the ACA, blame America's insurance companies

With all the charges flying against President Obama in the on-going effort to stop ObamaCare it?s time for a reality check.

Having failed to kill the Affordable Care Act in Congress by shutting down the government the opposition is currently taking delight in charging the president with lying to the public when he said anyone who likes their current healthcare plan will be able to keep it under the new law.

Story continues here (on the Fox News website)...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...nce-companies/

Holy shit already.

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Seriously?

1. IBM
Earlier this month, the computer giant, once famed for its paternalism, announced it would remove 110,000 of its Medicare-eligible retirees from the company?s health insurance and give them subsidies to purchase coverage through the Obamacare exchanges. Retirees fear that they will not get the level of coverage they are used to, and that the options will be bewildering.

So a company is going to be using the exchanges and they will be able to pick what options they want and this is... a bad thing? Sounds to me like it's a good thing - they have more options.

2. Delta Air Lines
In a letter to employees, Delta Air Lines revealed that the company?s health-care costs will rise about $100 million next year alone, in large part because of Obamacare. The airline said that in addition to several other changes, it would have to drop its specially crafted insurance plans for pilots because the ?Cadillac tax? on luxurious health plans has made them too expensive.

The problem with healthcare is that the costs continue to increase every year, and in most cases increases more than raises and cost of living increases. Americans are making less money every year due to healthcare increases.

Healthcare was going to up no matter what.

3. UPS
Fifteen thousand employees? spouses will no longer be able to use UPS?s health-care plan because they have access to coverage elsewhere. The ?costs associated with the Affordable Care Act have made it increasingly difficult to continue providing the same level of health care benefits to our employees at an affordable cost,? the delivery giant said in a company memo. The move is expected to save the company $60 million next year.

Fuck you. The costs were going to go up anyhow. They do every year, and in huge amounts too. In this case UPS seems to be using "Obamacare" as an excuse.

If Obamacare didn't exist and they did this next year anyhow, you wouldn't have even noticed.

4. Caterpillar Inc.
In the law?s first year, the machinery manufacturer estimated before its passage, Obamacare would add more than $100 million in health-care costs. ?We can ill afford cost increases that place us at a disadvantage versus our global competitors,? a Caterpillar executive wrote lawmakers, saying that the law would not meet the goal of providing good, inexpensive health care for all Americans.

Where did they get that figure from? Seems like an "estimation". I'm guessing someone who wanted to slam Obamacare made up a figure before the law even went into place - why else are they using the term "estimated".

It would put them at a "disadvantage versus our global competitors" - who, China?

5. SeaWorld
SeaWorld used to let part-time employees work up to 32 hours per week, but the company is dropping the limit to 28 hours to keep them under the 30-hour threshold at which it would be required to provide health insurance under Obamacare. More than 80 percent of the company?s thousands of employees are part-time and/or seasonal.

Meanwhile Wal Mart has decided to increase the percentage of it's work force to full time employees. Yawn.

6. Stryker Corp.
Stryker Corp., a Michigan medical-device manufacturer, laid off about 1,000 employees earlier this year due to the Affordable Care Act?s 2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices. The company estimated that the tax would cost it approximately $100 million next year. ?Stryker remains significantly concerned with the upcoming medical device excise tax and its negative impact on jobs and innovation and will continue to work with Congress to try to repeal the tax,? said the company?s CEO.

LOL. This is the best one.

This company increased it's profits 2% up to $2.2 billion. And they can't afford a 2% tax? And they have lay off a thousand employees? Sure sure.

Vendzilla, all you are doing is posting up misleading sites with half truths. But we've come to expect that from you.

Fox News said that? Seriously?

Is he chumming the waters again?

I didn't post any blame, the OP says "unintended" , Do you know what this word means?

Is this thread troll bait too?

:1orglaugh

Juan Williams said it..do you know who he is?

He is the devils advocate with O'reilly. He wears the bleeding heart liberal cap and gives O'reilly someone to smack down and scream at.

Stockholders care. You might not care that they care, but they will force companies to make cuts to keep them at the same profit levels. If not, stockholders sell and go elsewhere.

the insane part about juan williams is what he actually thinks is in no way related to what he speaks. i used to love watching him spar with the conservatives on fox news sunday round table, or at least try to spar with a couple of them, he was no where near the level of bri hume or charles troutehammer(sic) but his getting the boot from the bbc for his anti-muslim comments made me lol. i had always thought he was full of it and that was why he could never really fully argue his position.

hah. too funny, i miss that round table. :Oh crap:upsidedow