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TumblrPRO 11-05-2013 08:35 PM

Not all Streamate Whitelabels are Penalized...
 
I know whitelabels like "Free Ones Cams" or "Barelist Live" are definitely penalized by google.

Just do a search for those terms or any other known Streamate Whitelabels. Not hard to figure out. You can't even find them in google, unless you write site:domain.com

But when I search for "free cam stars", I still see their Streamate Whitelabel in top of google. And no, im not talking about their paid adwords campaign.

So, what makes them different from the others? They don't really have a unique design, just changed a few things, but the core of the design is not unique.

I wonder if the Streamate Guys are working to change all other whitelabels to fix this penalization.

Cool story bro? Maybe...

digitalfantasies 11-05-2013 11:19 PM

Nobody can fix google rankings at the moment... Seo died a few months ago. Just grab some popcorn and watch your sites Rise or fall...

garce 11-05-2013 11:25 PM

Google has killed almost everything that is not Google. My whitelabel is doing ok though - but with 0% Google traffic.

NoWhErE 11-06-2013 06:09 AM

The only factor I've been able to pinpoint yet were the W/L that didn't have many backlinks didn't get penalized (yet).

From a quick observation, seems like the W/L that were ranking for a lot of terms were the ones that got hit the hardest.

barelist 11-06-2013 09:32 AM

No fair :(

Harmon 11-06-2013 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19862243)
Nobody can fix google rankings at the moment... Seo died a few months ago. Just grab some popcorn and watch your sites Rise or fall...

Yeah shit's all fucked up ATM, but the outcome is what is most important. I think Google is moving towards a pay for search model. That's just a guess, but it seems that certain keywords that I used to be number one for are now say number 4-7. HUGE competitors are now outranking me even though they are nothing more than data aggregating crap and my shit is relevant and dead on. More along the lines of traffic numbers rather than relevancy. :2 cents:

barelist 11-06-2013 02:26 PM

In all honestly, I never feel like our WL would or should ever generate any traffic from SE's.

The content is 100% duplicate... now maybe if Streamate allowed us to customize the WL landing pages / model pages, etc... and we could make them different even down to a style level, different story.

I just feel like the WL is for making sales from our other sources of traffic... main site, social media, etc...

VforVendetta 11-06-2013 02:31 PM

camtv.com is not penalyzed on google

_Richard_ 11-06-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 19862569)
The only factor I've been able to pinpoint yet were the W/L that didn't have many backlinks didn't get penalized (yet).

From a quick observation, seems like the W/L that were ranking for a lot of terms were the ones that got hit the hardest.

we have had more and more hitting us up to remove backlinks, but this wouldn't be for WLs

DutchTrafficService 11-06-2013 03:05 PM

Those are "brands", an emd or pmd are obviously going to rank for those kws, these keywords have absolutely fuckall competition, and they are not even 1 btw :error

Not sure what you are trying to say here.

DutchTrafficService 11-06-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 19862569)
The only factor I've been able to pinpoint yet were the W/L that didn't have many backlinks didn't get penalized (yet).

From a quick observation, seems like the W/L that were ranking for a lot of terms were the ones that got hit the hardest.

It's quite hard to apply a ranking penalty to a non ranking domain..... :helpme

adultmobile 11-07-2013 09:33 AM

You say "free cam stars", Streamate Whitelabel in top of google; reason is freecamstars it was an independent cam site for a year, until switched to streamate. The same happened for other livebucks sites which was independent cam site for years, until switched to streamate. Google remembers the years before it was an original site, and the whitelabel issue did not penalize in % enough yet. With time, the previous years authority will decrease in % and the penalize of recent time prevail.

VforVendetta 11-07-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19864476)
You say "free cam stars", Streamate Whitelabel in top of google; reason is freecamstars it was an independent cam site for a year, until switched to streamate. The same happened for other livebucks sites which was independent cam site for years, until switched to streamate. Google remembers the years before it was an original site, and the whitelabel issue did not penalize in % enough yet. With time, the previous years authority will decrease in % and the penalize of recent time prevail.

and camtv.com why is not panalyzed ?

TumblrPRO 11-07-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19863379)
Those are "brands", an emd or pmd are obviously going to rank for those kws, these keywords have absolutely fuckall competition, and they are not even 1 btw :error

Not sure what you are trying to say here.

You say "free cam stars" is a brand? Ok... :)

Seriously, it has nothing to do with that. There are branding whitelabels penalized, and branding whitelabels not penalized.

There are general terms whitelabels, penalized. And general terms whitelabels not penalized.

adultmobile 11-08-2013 10:01 AM

It is not matter of "brand", it is matter if what it was on the same domain name the years before, if unique content or whitelabel/cloned content.

You can check this with archive.org , which shows site copies in the past.
See freecamstars in 2012 it wa a completely custom, unique cam site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121024...ecamstars.com/

Then later switched to streamate WL. But google does an average with the past, and some of the authority/uniqueness of the past will hold for a while.

I seen same behaviour for livebucks sites converted in streamate, these stay upper still now in results.


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