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Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 09:03 PM

new google update is not hard to figure out
 
hey guys,
havent been here in a while, im not in adult anymore :( yes i miss it but ...

this new update google voice update they did with long tail questions is not hard to beat
very easy actually

it is a pain in the ass when google updates and everyone starts freaking out, you need to take 2 steps back and think

first i am not going to tell you here what i figured out

if you want to chat about what i figured out hit me up on skype or call me
gtaseo.ca is skype
416-809-4393 is my cell

if you are a real seo guy i will chat with you about it and see if i am right or wrong ( i think i am right and so far i havent been wrong )

anyways this is my first time on gfy in about a year or so and I am back for a while

sorry guys i have been away for personal reasons ( some know why, but we all go through it once in a while )

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 09:39 PM

Barely anything has changed for any domains with a certain level of trust.

The only major things that changed are a whole bunch of new filters for virgin domains, this update is meaningless.

ps: your main website, an EMD, is not even ranking for it's own keyword, your (old) backlinks are a mess.

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851565)
Barely anything has changed for any domains with a certain level of trust.

The only major things that changed are a whole bunch of new filters for virgin domains, this update is meaningless.

ps: your main website, an EMD, is not even ranking for it's own keyword, your (old) backlinks are a mess.

i guess you didnt read the part where i have been out of adult ( and havent even looked ) but thanks for the reminder

BTW for anyone else, i havent been in adult for over a year and please dont look at my sites, they are OUT DATED

even my EMD cause i dont care :thumbsup

GAMEFINEST 10-28-2013 09:58 PM

it would be nice if you would give some tips

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 19851584)
it would be nice if you would give some tips

if this place was like it used to be i would

but i see too many fake here now

i added you on icq, i would be glad to chat with old timers in the biz, but not someone who registred in 2012/13 trying to pretend they know

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851587)
if this place was like it used to be i would
but not someone who registred in 2012/13 trying to pretend they know


I'm sorry but i apply SEO for a living, you sell SEO services for a living, if you knew SEO properly you wouldn't be selling it, as there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more to be made using it yourself....if you know what you are doing that is.

So don't come here calling me "fake", or are you up for a challenge..? ;)

xxxjay 10-28-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851597)
I'm sorry but i apply SEO for a living, you sell SEO services for a living, if you knew SEO properly you wouldn't be selling it

I agree. I've never had a client in my life.

brassmonkey 10-28-2013 10:14 PM

can i get a review copy? :helpme

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851597)
I'm sorry but i apply SEO for a living, you sell SEO services for a living, if you knew SEO properly you wouldn't be selling it, as there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more to be made using it yourself....if you know what you are doing that is.

So don't come here calling me "fake", or are you up for a challenge..? ;)

up for what challange ? i have done seo for one of the biggest companies in this biz, dont think i cant do it, i have proof i have and can

there is a diff in doing seo and hitting big keywords then there is converting the traffic

i never once said i can convert the traffic, hense i do seo for others

getting ranks/traffic is a diff art then converting it

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851615)
i never once said i can convert the traffic, hense i do seo for others
getting ranks/traffic is a diff art then converting it

I can't convert either, which is why i send it straight to an offer, problem solved, while still making many times more than if i were to sell seo services.

I wouldn't want to call seo an art either, lets face it, doing seo for an established website is probably the easiest thing ever.

Buy a brand new domain and rank it for the top 10 highest earning keywords in the world (which is definately not adult) within 24 hours and then we can talk, till then, i don't think you should call me "someone who thinks he knows" or a faker.

You are the one coming in here with "hey, google updated, wanna know more? I got the solution, contact me privately so i can sell you some more services". :error


For anyone else, no i don't like the whole seo services biz, i know the biz very well.
So if you are lazy and/or to dumb to do it yourself, go for it, just realise that you are paying a 35000% markup. :2 cents:

EddyTheDog 10-28-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851615)
...getting ranks/traffic is a diff art then converting it...

:thumbsup...

EDIT: That's a sarcastic thumbs up by the way - Just to clarify...

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851628)
I can't convert either, which is why i send it straight to an offer, problem solved, while still making many times more than if i were to sell seo services.

I wouldn't want to call seo an art either, lets face it, doing seo for an established website is probably the easiest thing ever.

Buy a brand new domain and rank it for the top 10 highest earning keywords in the world (which is definately not adult) within 24 hours and then we can talk, till then, i don't think you should call me "someone who thinks he knows" or a faker.

You are the one coming in here with "hey, google updated, wanna know more? I got the solution, contact me privately so i can sell you some more services". :error


For anyone else, no i don't like the whole seo services biz, i know the biz very well.
So if you are lazy and/or to dumb to do it yourself, go for it, just realise that you are paying a 35000% markup. :2 cents:

whoaaa, if you can buy a domain and 24 hrs later your ranking, your doing great with black hat, my hats off to you.

i didnt come in here to have a pissing match with you, but i can promice 1 thing, if you can rank a brand new site ( 24 hrs old ) on page 1 your pure black hat and i couldnt give a shit about that

i hit ranks that last

anyone who knows anything knows that, congrats on your black hat link tools

post a result here now and post the same result in 3 months

xrumer works wonders

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851634)
if you can rank a brand new site ( 24 hrs old ) on page 1 your pure black hat and i couldnt give a shit about that

I do, because it brings in real $$$ :)


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i hit ranks that last
That doesn't exist anymore these days, only on low comp. or by being a superauthority, aka, amazon etc. But i get what you mean.

However, i would not dismiss churn and burn, that's where the real money is.

ps: and no, xrumer aint all that great these days on its own.

Deputy Chief Command 10-28-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851597)
if you knew SEO properly you wouldn't be selling it, as there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more to be made using it yourself....if you know what you are doing that is.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh FAKE

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 19851639)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh FAKE

Ty

gfy dot com /showthread.php?t=1109298

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851638)
I do, because it brings in real $$$ :)




That doesn't exist anymore these days, only on low comp. or by being a superauthority, aka, amazon etc. But i get what you mean.

However, i would not dismiss churn and burn, that's where the real money is.

ps: and no, xrumer aint all that great these days on its own.


i do not give a fuck what you say, there is no way a 24 hr site will hit page 1 legit and stay

0 chance it would happen

for 1 it takes google more then 24 hrs to crawl your site...................... bye

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851643)
i do not give a fuck what you say, there is no way a 24 hr site will hit page 1 legit and stay

0 chance it would happen

Legit? Sure, not against any law.
And it can stay up to several days and several months, depends, 1 domain in the 3 big ms niches can easily do 3-5k a day, do i care if it "stays"?


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for 1 it takes google more then 24 hrs to crawl your site...................... bye
You lost all credit by saying this, clearly showing you have absolutely zero idea what you are doing.

EddyTheDog 10-28-2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851643)
i do not give a fuck what you say, there is no way a 24 hr site will hit page 1 legit and stay

0 chance it would happen

for 1 it takes google more then 24 hrs to crawl your site...................... bye

i cen get google 2 crawl a site less then 1 hr...

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This has to be a fake nic?....

Deputy Chief Command 10-28-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851642)

hahah, thats funny

that thread is about camsexfrenzy.de; confirmed user zdeneczek claims he will "report" the site to Google :upsidedow


now the domain in question redirects to his GFY user profile :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.camsexfrenzy.de/

well played :2 cents:

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19851649)
i cen get google 2 crawl a site less then 1 hr...

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This has to be a fake nic?....

you got me, im a fake nick............

you can get google to crawl a site in less then an hr from being live??

and have it indexed?

i have domains that are not live yet, but over a year old
i will set one up tomorrow morning

by tomorrow night i want to see the cached page in google

i do not care if it is ranking or not, i just want to see a cached page, you can do that?

pure white hat that is

DutchTrafficService 10-28-2013 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851658)
you got me, im a fake nick............

you can get google to crawl a site in less then an hr from being live??

Crawled? In about 30 seconds to 1 minute, anyone can do that.


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and have it indexed?
That depends on the links you create, how much auth. they have and in which volume.
With good volume and proper links 20 mins - 1 hour is not uncommon, as a general guideline take 'several' hours for the average virgin domain.


Quote:

i have domains that are not live yet, but over a year old
i will set one up tomorrow morning

by tomorrow night i want to see the cached page in google
If you do nothing, nothing will happen.

Quote:

i do not care if it is ranking or not, i just want to see a cached page, you can do that?
Sure.


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pure white hat that is
Pure whitehat? Pure whitehat means doing NOTHING but doing onpage seo and never touching it ever again, the moment you create 1 backlink you are blackhat, or at best greyhat.

As any links made by the website owner are intended to manipulate the serps, which is against the google guidelines, aka that defines blackhat (which you seem to hate so much).

In other words: you seem to be confused about various aspects of seo.

EddyTheDog 10-28-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851658)
you got me, im a fake nick............

you can get google to crawl a site in less then an hr from being live??

and have it indexed?

i have domains that are not live yet, but over a year old
i will set one up tomorrow morning

by tomorrow night i want to see the cached page in google

i do not care if it is ranking or not, i just want to see a cached page, you can do that?

pure white hat that is

Sorry, I was actually taking the piss - I shouldn't mock the afflicted and will leave you alone...

Mark_E4A 10-28-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851661)
Crawled? In about 30 seconds to 1 minute, anyone can do that.



That depends on the links you create, how much auth. they have and in which volume.
With good volume and proper links 20 mins - 1 hour is not uncommon, as a general guideline take 'several' hours for the average virgin domain.



If you do nothing, nothing will happen.


Sure.



Pure whitehat? Pure whitehat means doing NOTHING but doing onpage seo and never touching it ever again, the moment you create 1 backlink you are blackhat, or at best greyhat.

As any links made by the website owner are intended to manipulate the serps, which is against the google guidelines, aka that defines blackhat (which you seem to hate so much).

In other words: you seem to be confused about various aspects of seo.



funny thing is i dont do too much linking, i have my own site i do stuff with but thats it

i have big clients for over 2 years now because i dont rush them

your ways might work for you, props to you, but you said it yourself

Legit? Sure, not against any law.
And it can stay up to several days and several months, depends

i keep my clients there for a years, not months, thanks for that tho, thats helped

wpbulkeditor 10-29-2013 12:18 AM

I would like to talk to both of you.
Ps. Mark it can really just take an hour to get indexed. There are a few tricks for that. Not talking huge rankings.

How do i best contact you both?

Feng-PD 10-29-2013 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851642)
Ty

gfy dot com /showthread.php?t=1109298

teach a fellow dutchie o great master :pimp

Mark_E4A 10-29-2013 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpbulkeditor (Post 19851689)
I would like to talk to both of you.
Ps. Mark it can really just take an hour to get indexed. There are a few tricks for that. Not talking huge rankings.

How do i best contact you both?

my contact info is in my sig

but
icq 205700725
skype gtaseo.ca
phone 416-809-4393

DutchTrafficService 10-29-2013 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpbulkeditor (Post 19851689)
I would like to talk to both of you.
How do i best contact you both?

You mean me? if so, sorry i'm not interested in providing anything or selling anything.

seeandsee 10-29-2013 01:58 AM

seo experts, fakes, more seo experts, more fakes

and i heard nothing from this thread...

Jel 10-29-2013 03:31 AM

easy to see that DutchTrafficService knows what he is talking about. Keep up the churn and burn BH :thumbsup

3xmedia 10-29-2013 03:55 AM

nice spam.

Jel 10-29-2013 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdeneczek (Post 19851795)
nice spam.

heh, ironic, no? :winkwink:

TampaToker 10-29-2013 04:37 AM

I will say i worked with mark for a bit and i did get to see his statscounter stats and he
did know seo very well back then. I wondered why he he vanished now that i seen his
other thread and i understand why.

Mark hope you are doing well and keep your head up. I had to make some life changing
decisions along time ago and changed my life for the better. Do now dwell on the past and
always look at the cup as half full and not half empty.

PornDiscounts-V 10-29-2013 05:04 AM

It takes google about 20 minutes to crawl my sites when I create them. Sometimes it crawls them before I create them because of the toolbar or I am using chrome when I bought them.

anexsia 10-29-2013 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851658)
you got me, im a fake nick............

you can get google to crawl a site in less then an hr from being live??

and have it indexed?

i have domains that are not live yet, but over a year old
i will set one up tomorrow morning

by tomorrow night i want to see the cached page in google

i do not care if it is ranking or not, i just want to see a cached page, you can do that?

pure white hat that is

I'm pretty sure that most webmasters on here can get their websites crawled within an hour...infact I thought that was pretty normal?

nexcom28 10-29-2013 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19851843)
It takes google about 20 minutes to crawl my sites when I create them. Sometimes it crawls them before I create them because of the toolbar or I am using chrome when I bought them.

Try that again with your cookies cleared and logged out of Google.

Personally, I used to have a PR5 site that got decent traffic. I used to be able to add a link from that site to my new domain and it would be indexed in minutes. Ranking it, well that's a different matter.

Best-In-BC 10-29-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 19851643)
for 1 it takes google more then 24 hrs to crawl your site...................... bye

lol :1orglaugh

DutchTrafficService 10-29-2013 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28 (Post 19851892)
Try that again with your cookies cleared and logged out of Google.

What on earth does that have to do with googlebot crawling your domain, do you even know what it means? :error

Quote:

Personally, I used to have a PR5 site that got decent traffic. I used to be able to add a link from that site to my new domain and it would be indexed in minutes. Ranking it, well that's a different matter.
Indexing and ranking are 2 completely different things obviously.

wpbulkeditor 10-29-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851936)
What on earth does that have to do with googlebot crawling your domain, do you even know what it means? :error



Indexing and ranking are 2 completely different things obviously.

I feel bad you dont want to talk. Are you sure?

HookUPcom 10-29-2013 10:15 AM

Definitely a tuff crowd... Thanks for stopping back to say "hello"... Maybe you don't miss us so much after all.

ShowMe69 10-29-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19851728)
You mean me? if so, sorry i'm not interested in providing anything or selling anything.

Dutch, can you hit me up on ICQ

ICQ: 357133468

RevSand 10-29-2013 11:02 AM

Damn.. Was hoping to pick up some SEO tips and this has become a pissing match instead. :(


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