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PornMD 10-15-2013 12:48 PM

Really Useful Limited Says .XXX Performing Better Than .Com?s
 
http://www.thedomains.com/2013/10/15...ter-than-coms/

It wouldn't be a surprise to me if that's true, since they're getting really good .xxx domains. I doubt anything but the really good ones would perform all that well though compared to similar costed .com or even .net or .org (which given the prices being paid for the .xxx, it'd be the same name in .net or .org).

What say you all?

Klen 10-15-2013 01:11 PM

I'l say how it is more isolated cases then a standard practice.

Colmike9 10-15-2013 01:43 PM

Also, people like the more hardcore content on the .xxx sites and the promos for them, at least that's what I'm seeing. (ex: danejones.com > orgasms.xxx and fakeagent.com > casting.xxx)

But the .xxx's also do rank very well by themselves on SEs. :upsidedow

Fat Panda 10-15-2013 01:59 PM

casting.xxx converts at 1:320

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA right

seeric 10-15-2013 02:41 PM

more icm registry propoganda. google does not favor .xxx over .com. end of story.

gees.

DutchTrafficService 10-15-2013 03:08 PM

100% bullshit, any extension is treated equally (by google at least).

This comes from personal experience (xxxxx domains).

FreeFastHost 10-15-2013 05:09 PM

.xxx are worthless.

sandman! 10-15-2013 05:17 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Brad Mitchell 10-15-2013 06:09 PM

Really Useful is kicking ass. That's no lie!

Brad

bean-aid 10-15-2013 08:13 PM

This is really useful information.

Adam_M 10-15-2013 08:23 PM

Would you say that if you just spent $600k on .xxx domains? Anyone who knows how to use Google if that's true or not

bean-aid 10-15-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 19836085)
Would you say that if you just spent $600k on .xxx domains? Anyone who knows how to use Google if that's true or not

Very confused: Can I try to reword?

Would you say that it is true if somebody invested $800K on recently acquired .xxx domains are cheerleading for ICM? Further, do you think a surfer gives a shit if .xxx or .com is after the domain name?

Adam_M 10-15-2013 08:35 PM

Sorry beaner....

If you "supposedly" spent $600k on on rubbish .xxx domains would you tell everyone they rank better then .com's?

Anyone who has even a basic SEO skill level knows that .xxx do not out rank .com in an way shape or form.

This is your standard run of the mill publicity bullshit that goes around all the time :2 cents:

bean-aid 10-15-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 19836089)
Sorry beaner....

If you "supposedly" spent $600k on on rubbish .xxx domains would you tell everyone they rank better then .com's?

Anyone who has even a basic SEO skill level knows that .xxx do not out rank .com in an way shape or form.

This is your standard run of the mill publicity bullshit that goes around all the time :2 cents:

I'm pretty sure the PR said $800K... but that doesn't matter.

What is silly is that .sex, .fuckme, .adult, .hardcore is all available to take. Some .xxx names are def. gaining steam.

Unless google and ICM registry work out a deal (doubtful)... .xxx will just be an overpaid tld.

But remember... .xxx made their movement by injecting fear in the buyers, and for that, and that alone, should be shunned by everyone.

Again though, this is adult, and in general there are no morals. Just like the irony of the owner of youporn.com registered in late 2005 now becoming a supporter of some other scumbag.

Alex1776 10-15-2013 09:41 PM

Big biz here

Robbie 10-15-2013 09:48 PM

I'd say that if you have a really good site...and you market the fuck out of it...then yeah, it will do well.

That's always been the case. Has nothing to do with it being .xxx or not. If they have the same site on .com I would bet that all things being equal, the .com would easily outperform the .xxx every time.

Femjoy Michael 10-16-2013 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19835713)
Also, people like the more hardcore content on the .xxx sites and the promos for them, at least that's what I'm seeing. (ex: danejones.com > orgasms.xxx and fakeagent.com > casting.xxx)

JT promotes primarily via videos, eg. on tubes

his domain name is on the videos

shorter, easier-to-remember domains perform better.

common language words are good

"orgasms" is shorter and identifiable as opposed to "dane jones" which doesn't mean anything to anyone unless they already know the brand.

apply it to "fakeagent" vs "casting" for the same reason above.

We've tested this. Adding even a single extra letter can offset traffic by 10+%. And don't get started on "www".

JT's xxx domains were put up and marketed first, if I recall correctly. Before manwin forbid xxx domains on their network. The age might explain the better search engine results, but it isn't as if his search engine traffic is organic longtail keywords in his genre. It's people typing in his domain in google when they startup the browser.

Want proof? Type in our domain, "joymii.com" in google trends and compare it to another domain.

Hope this info helps :)

k0nr4d 10-16-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19835814)
100% bullshit, any extension is treated equally (by google at least).

This comes from personal experience (xxxxx domains).

I'll trade ya all your .com's for .info's :1orglaugh

Jay - SMASH 10-16-2013 04:18 AM

JT knows what he is doing - props!

BlackCrayon 10-16-2013 05:17 AM

he could of gotten some really good .com's for that price. adult .com's don't sell for the insane prices they used to but instead he spends over half a mil on .xxx domains that really have no worth? how is any .xxx domain worth much of anything when there are only 26,000 active domains in tld?

DutchTrafficService 10-16-2013 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19836216)
I'll trade ya all your .com's for .info's :1orglaugh

The extension does not matter (for seo). Simple. I can rank any (global) extension equally for any keyword. There are many reasons to go with a .com, but SEO is absolutely not 1 of em.

bean-aid 10-16-2013 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19836398)
The extension does not matter (for seo). Simple. I can rank any extension equally for any keyword. I could go into more details as to why and why not, but i'm sure most people that are into seo could figure this out themself.

Most understand that. This statement is bullshit in the article:

?Google ranks them higher because they clearly identify the content as adult. This means that traffic to my .XXX sites has been pre-qualified by search engines and conversions from visitor to member are considerably higher.?

What the article is eluding to is that .xxx is THE extension for adult, and it is bullshit. I would bet $1 that $800K did not exchange hands. It is simply an agenda to try and market an extension that everyone hates because of the methods used to try and originally market the extension.

The owner has every intention on cornering the market on adult tld's and open up a bunch of new ones, like .sex etc. Then they all become worthless in the end. It's just, quite simply, total bullshit.

icymelon 10-16-2013 10:53 AM

few issues with saying XXX is performing better. One can you compare it to the matching dotcom? Is the XXX domain getting hundreds of thousands of views for each video on the tubes with the url stamped on the video? So basically the tube sites are branding the domain?

If you add to the argument because we the good dotcom has been taken we have seen great results by using the dotXXX because if we had to go with a dotcom we wouldn't have been able to use as good a name or keyword in the brand.

MrDeiz 10-16-2013 11:13 AM

pure bs
8 char

polosas 10-16-2013 12:47 PM

i would agree with JT about .xxx
and i would say that all old extension will not rank on adult keywords that much as they do now, just for easy way for google to filter traffic.

PornMD 10-16-2013 04:10 PM

I do think it's horseshit that .xxx is outranking a similar .com under similar conditions for adult terms on the basis that Google "prequalifies" .xxx as more fitting. Having said that, I'm sure after building up on them that they may get some rankings (due to lots of links etc.) and that even as a watermark on tube vids that they could increase type-ins over the typical .com. But IMO no way in hell they'd have higher type-ins over similarly costed .com or even the same .net. I could be wrong, but with how few .xxx I ever come across in search, I don't see how most avg people would be aware it's even an extension. It's not like it's in the press anymore.

DWB 10-16-2013 04:30 PM

Just spent a few minutes on Google seeing if .XXX sites were listing better than .COM. I must be using a different Google than JT does, but good luck to him nonetheless. I'm sure he'll turn them into very profitable sites.

adultmobile 10-16-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19836216)
I'll trade ya all your .com's for .info's :1orglaugh

Or .tk :)

bean-aid 10-17-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 19835733)
casting.xxx converts at 1:320

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA right

I don't doubt those conversions for 1 second. Tube traffic (not side banner ads)... clicks from uploaded vids with your banner below converts right at about 1:300 to 1:350 on many sites. I could get that number down to 1:150 but what do I know :winkwink:

Stats, overall, all uniques on site I just worked on:

May
Ratio: 1/973

June
Ratio: 1/1029

July
Ratio: 1/801

August
Ratio: 1/892

September
Ratio: 1/1095

October
Ratio: 1/386

What month do you think something changed? :2 cents:

This isn't about me, or his stats really, or my ability to take those stats less then 1:200 :upsidedow

... it is about ICM Registry and trying to cornhole the industry. Remember them saying how .XXX sites will be heavily regulated and illegal shit is focus of campaign? Well, that was all smoke and mirrors.

Think about this... if the industry was to embrace .XXX and buy them all up, that would give ICM a lot of money to then further their agenda. That agenda would be to mandate all adult content be placed on a .XXX extension. They would campaign to eliminate all competition by trying to pass laws that adult content cannot be placed on .com, .net, .biz, .info, etc.

They are, without any doubt in my mind, trying to corner the adult tld extensions. And they will campaign for more tlds, under their control. Well... if you have a gay site, it needs to be under .gay extension, etc.

polosas 10-17-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19838469)
Think about this... if the industry was to embrace .XXX and buy them all up, that would give ICM a lot of money to then further their agenda. That agenda would be to mandate all adult content be placed on a .XXX extension. They would campaign to eliminate all competition by trying to pass laws that adult content cannot be placed on .com, .net, .biz, .info, etc.

They are, without any doubt in my mind, trying to corner the adult tld extensions. And they will campaign for more tlds, under their control. Well... if you have a gay site, it needs to be under .gay extension, etc.

this is what its all about !

hillbilly bob 10-17-2013 02:21 PM

as for as type in traffic and just googling words, please explain how if .xxx is so crappy you can Google things such as indian pussy, black whores, asian cunt, just to name a few and put them together as one word or seperate them or whatever,and I don't see .com for those domains anywhere in sight,but you do see the .xxx extension. Unless the .coms for same key words are just not websites or available to purchase .

fogfever 10-18-2013 06:14 PM

they definitely get a lot of press every time they buy a domain. The registry also is banking on their success so I think they prioritize the Really Useful domains when they send traffic to sites. They probably have some sort of agreement to overpay for domains in exchange for press and traffic.

uniquemkt 10-18-2013 08:55 PM

Worked at a mainstream company when .xxx was launching. The marketing material for .xxx was pretty damn close to blackmail. For $x you could pre-register your trademark.xxx, for $x-1 you could "block" others from registering your trademark.xxx. We bought a dozen or more "blocks", because they convinced the legal department that someone was sure to run [trademark].xxx as a gay midget clown donkey scan porn site.

Fuck .xxx

bean-aid 10-18-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniquemkt (Post 19840295)
Worked at a mainstream company when .xxx was launching. The marketing material for .xxx was pretty damn close to blackmail. For $x you could pre-register your trademark.xxx, for $x-1 you could "block" others from registering your trademark.xxx. We bought a dozen or more "blocks", because they convinced the legal department that someone was sure to run [trademark].xxx as a gay midget clown donkey scan porn site.

Fuck .xxx

And that is how they said hi. Imagine what those little gready turds have in the pipeline?

I said it above, scroll up.

marlboroack 10-18-2013 09:58 PM

.xxx is doing GREAT!!!

SweetlysinxX 10-18-2013 11:18 PM

I wouldnt think the general porn oublic would think ".xxx" when trying to surf before, but I guess they are now.

winter_ 10-19-2013 01:26 AM

.xxx and the icm registry isn't about protecting children from sexually explicit pornography, what the icm registry has going there is a money making racquet! :upsidedow

Barry-xlovecam 10-19-2013 08:11 AM

The Huns are comming!
 
When the new gTLDs are released be ready for a search engine shitstorm.

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